In Reply to: RE: Bringing down the ripple......? posted by sony6060 on July 16, 2023 at 09:18:56:
"usually sized at maximum tube current draw"
but if you are not drawing that much current then the cap can be bigger without exceeding the max peak repetitive current rating of the tube.
so it is not the value of the cap that can not be exceeded, it is the value of the peak repetitive current that can not be exceeded.
Some of the data sheets for the 5r4 shows 4uf as the max value for the input capacitor but that is for the situation shown in that data sheet.
I can show you examples of circuits with voltages and load current draws where 220uf is just fine and other circuits with voltages and load current draws where 4uf is too much.
There is no fixed capacitor value that is max. The voltage and load current draw determines how large the input cap can be without exceeding the peak repetitive current rating of the rectifier tube.
Again, it is the peak repetitive current rating of the tube that can not be exceeded.
Tre'
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- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - Tre' 08:22:39 07/17/23 (71)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - sony6060 08:27:36 07/17/23 (70)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - Tre' 10:27:30 07/18/23 (69)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - sony6060 11:36:36 07/18/23 (68)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - Tre' 13:30:18 07/18/23 (67)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - sony6060 13:56:49 07/18/23 (66)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - Tre' 14:09:52 07/18/23 (65)
- RE: Bringing down the ripple......? - sony6060 14:12:11 07/18/23 (64)
- Here's the chart you ask for - Tre' 14:21:24 07/18/23 (63)
- I am going to try one more time - Tre' 15:39:10 07/18/23 (0)
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- RE: Here's the chart you ask for - Tre' 19:31:47 07/19/23 (1)
- I found the math - Tre' 20:16:45 07/19/23 (0)
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- As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - Tre' 07:22:29 07/24/23 (13)
- RE: As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - sony6060 10:13:39 07/24/23 (12)
- RE: As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - Tre' 11:13:32 07/24/23 (11)
- RE: As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - sony6060 11:41:00 07/24/23 (10)
- RE: As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - Tre' 12:14:42 07/24/23 (9)
- RE: As long as the max rating for peak plate current is not exceeded you can use any cap value you want. - sony6060 12:27:32 07/24/23 (8)
- I'm getting ready to call BS on you. - Tre' 12:37:21 07/24/23 (7)
- RE: I'm getting ready to call BS on you. - sony6060 14:02:15 07/24/23 (6)
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- RE: I'm getting ready to call BS on you. - sony6060 14:27:45 07/24/23 (3)
- I guess 40uf is not the maximum input cap value for a 5u4. Thanks for the info. - Tre' 15:10:45 07/24/23 (2)
- RE: I guess 40uf is not the maximum input cap value for a 5u4. Thanks for the info. - sony6060 16:20:04 07/24/23 (1)
- RE: I guess 40uf is not the maximum input cap value for a 5u4. Thanks for the info. - Rod M 17:13:45 07/24/23 (0)
- RE: Here's the chart you ask for - trobbins 02:07:58 07/21/23 (0)
- RE: Here's the chart you ask for - sony6060 06:03:25 07/19/23 (18)
- One more - Tre' 15:27:50 07/19/23 (17)
- RE: One more - sony6060 15:42:28 07/19/23 (16)
- Who said it was a 5u4 data sheet? - Tre' 16:09:27 07/19/23 (3)
- RE: Who said it was a 5u4 data sheet? - sony6060 16:13:32 07/19/23 (2)
- RE: Who said it was a 5u4 data sheet? - Tre' 16:18:42 07/19/23 (1)
- RE: Who said it was a 5u4 data sheet? - sony6060 17:39:03 07/19/23 (0)
- RE: One more - Triode_Kingdom 16:00:35 07/19/23 (11)
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- RE: One more - Tre' 09:41:51 07/20/23 (0)
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- RE: One more - Tre' 09:38:40 07/20/23 (1)
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- Just for the record, here is an example of a 5ar4 where 20uf is too much capacitance. - Tre' 19:43:34 07/18/23 (1)
- and another example where 220uf is just fine - Tre' 19:48:23 07/18/23 (0)