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In Reply to: RE: I'm not following you! posted by TomWh on March 22, 2017 at 20:59:24:
"Tre you really think I can not follow the bullshit distortion argument."
I'm a little confused.You understand all about load lines and spacing between grid lines along the load line and how and why that creates harmonic distortion?
If you follow all that then please explain why you call it bullshit?
BTW My commit about you was only in reference to this one statement, not all the rest of what you and gusser might be talking about.
"There are known distortions and their sonic signature can be identified. And those distortions can easily be predicted in simulation today. So if simulation says a 300B has X distortion at said operating points, building the circuit will prove it does"
As soon as you convincingly explain to me how calculating the HD based on plate curves, operating points and load lines is BS, I will see that I was wrong.
Thanks
Tre'
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Edits: 03/24/17
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- When they get aroound to putting all that in good engineering English, I will read it. - Timbo in Oz 21:48:12 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: Improved Marantz 9?? - LinuxGuru 02:04:05 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: Improved Marantz 9?? - tube wrangler 18:14:38 03/21/17 (102)
- This is a bunch of B.S. nonsense.... - crooner 12:11:07 03/22/17 (6)
- look closer.... - drlowmu 13:04:01 03/22/17 (5)
- RE: look even closer... - Steve O 15:22:09 03/22/17 (4)
- RE: look even closer... - PakProtector 04:02:37 03/23/17 (2)
- Maybe ... - Steve O 05:59:47 03/23/17 (1)
- Thanks Steve for the technical clarification (nt)... - crooner 07:57:36 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: look even closer... - drlowmu 21:47:32 03/22/17 (0)
- What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Steve O 18:57:15 03/21/17 (94)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 19:25:14 03/21/17 (93)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - gusser 11:36:28 03/22/17 (0)
- How many folks have even heard an original 9? - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 06:43:14 03/22/17 (9)
- I have a pair of 1962 vintage Model 9's - crooner 08:56:41 03/22/17 (8)
- RE: I have a pair of 1962 vintage Model 9's - drlowmu 12:04:37 03/22/17 (7)
- RE: I have a pair of 1962 vintage Model 9's - crooner 12:16:01 03/22/17 (6)
- And I personally owned Marantz 9 with OEM Rack Mount faceplates - drlowmu 16:36:29 03/23/17 (5)
- RE: And I personally owned Marantz 9 with OEM Rack Mount faceplates - crooner 16:48:57 03/23/17 (4)
- RE: And I personally owned Marantz 9's with OEM Rack Mount faceplates - drlowmu 17:39:38 03/23/17 (3)
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- RE: Where's the Speedster now? - drlowmu 08:16:55 03/24/17 (1)
- My personal favorite 356, the Roadster - Lew 12:00:03 03/24/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - PakProtector 04:23:00 03/22/17 (0)
- I have learned 'a lot' from Nobu Shishido and implemented his ideas into my designs.~nT - Cleantimestream 01:20:08 03/22/17 (1)
- RE: I have learned 'a lot' from Nobu Shishido and implemented his ideas into my designs.~nT - drlowmu 11:24:19 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - hahax@verizon.net 20:08:15 03/21/17 (78)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Tre' 21:05:07 03/21/17 (23)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - hahax@verizon.net 19:54:53 03/22/17 (21)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Tre' 08:14:18 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - JKT 22:45:22 03/22/17 (19)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - hahax@verizon.net 06:20:27 03/23/17 (18)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - JKT 11:28:26 03/23/17 (17)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 20:44:32 03/23/17 (11)
- ? - Tre' 21:06:37 03/23/17 (10)
- rolled off at 3800Hz - Tre' 15:28:42 03/24/17 (8)
- RE: rolled off at 3800Hz - PakProtector 04:39:56 03/25/17 (0)
- RE: rolled off at 3800Hz - tube wrangler 20:19:59 03/24/17 (6)
- Really Dennis? - gusser 10:53:28 03/25/17 (1)
- RE: Really Dennis? - tube wrangler 18:25:54 03/25/17 (0)
- RE: rolled off at 3800Hz - Tre' 22:34:19 03/24/17 (3)
- RE: rolled off at 3800Hz - tube wrangler 09:26:31 03/25/17 (2)
- Sorry Dennis... - PakProtector 05:41:06 03/26/17 (0)
- Dennis , I'm saving this. (nt) - Tre' 13:02:29 03/25/17 (0)
- +1 - 91derlust 02:05:02 03/24/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - hahax@verizon.net 13:12:22 03/23/17 (4)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - JKT 14:10:29 03/26/17 (3)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 14:21:36 03/26/17 (2)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - JKT 14:26:24 03/26/17 (1)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 23:41:37 03/26/17 (0)
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- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 20:43:58 03/21/17 (53)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Tre' 21:17:44 03/21/17 (52)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 22:44:30 03/21/17 (51)
- Theory Man? - gusser 10:49:50 03/22/17 (18)
- Funny you should mention Sal Marantz - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 14:05:02 03/22/17 (3)
- Saul Bernard - drlowmu 20:50:53 03/23/17 (0)
- Saul not "Sal"... - Steve O 14:49:57 03/22/17 (0)
- And neither was David Sarnoff! - gusser 14:25:46 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: Theory Man? - TomWh 13:02:04 03/22/17 (10)
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- RE: plenty of farmers who make way pass your salary. - gusser 14:34:11 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: plenty of farmers who make way pass your salary. - drlowmu 11:32:24 03/23/17 (0)
- Huh? - gusser 13:31:04 03/22/17 (5)
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- Absolutly! - gusser 14:40:39 03/22/17 (1)
- RE: Absolutly! - dave slagle 06:26:01 03/23/17 (0)
- RE: Huh? - TomWh 13:56:56 03/22/17 (1)
- Why not? - gusser 14:14:58 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: Theory Man? - PakProtector 11:17:33 03/22/17 (2)
- RE: Theory Man? - Eli Duttman 11:49:11 03/22/17 (0)
- So he says? - gusser 11:22:44 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Tre' 08:03:43 03/22/17 (1)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - tube wrangler 17:36:50 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - PakProtector 04:13:51 03/22/17 (29)
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- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - TomWh 08:49:43 03/22/17 (1)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - RPMac 15:30:39 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - cpotl 06:47:34 03/22/17 (24)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - gusser 11:12:02 03/22/17 (23)
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- What????????????????????????????????? - TomWh 12:10:57 03/22/17 (20)
- Have you figured out your scope yet? - gusser 12:21:50 03/22/17 (19)
- RE: Have you figured out your scope yet? - TomWh 13:44:06 03/22/17 (17)
- RE: Have you figured out your scope yet? - Tre' 17:50:01 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: Have you figured out your scope yet? - gusser 13:58:27 03/22/17 (15)
- RE: Have you figured out your scope yet? - sideliner 16:02:54 03/22/17 (14)
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- RE: It's not a cop out! - TomWh 18:31:51 03/22/17 (8)
- I'm not following you! - gusser 18:51:46 03/22/17 (7)
- RE: I'm not following you! - Tre' 19:47:26 03/22/17 (6)
- RE: I'm not following you! - TomWh 20:59:24 03/22/17 (5)
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- RE: I'm not following you! - Tre' 23:07:14 03/24/17 (2)
- RE: I'm not following you! - TomWh 08:23:30 03/25/17 (1)
- RE: I'm not following you! - cpotl 14:58:55 03/25/17 (0)
- Not back peddling at all! - gusser 22:16:02 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: It's not a cop out! - sideliner 18:23:47 03/22/17 (3)
- State of the art is perfect? - gusser 18:37:52 03/22/17 (2)
- RE: State of the art is perfect? - sideliner 21:09:03 03/22/17 (1)
- But consider this? - gusser 22:45:38 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: Have you figured out your scope yet? - Eli Duttman 12:34:27 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: What an astonishingly insightful (and iconoclastic) assessment of some formerly revered designs.... - Eli Duttman 12:03:37 03/22/17 (0)
- RE: Improved Marantz 9?? - Salectric 13:07:26 03/21/17 (0)
- RE: Improved Marantz 9?? - Chip647 12:09:58 03/21/17 (0)
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- RE: I'm not following you! - TomWh 08:23:30 03/25/17 (1)
- RE: I'm not following you! - cpotl 14:58:55 03/25/17 (0)