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I am not really defending you Jeff.

When it comes to close calls on hard to hear effects, the results HAS TO abide by the probability of the success shown and HAS very high uncertainty also.

What this means is that the measurement almost has no validity when it's a close call. But, also, the claim almost has no validity as you cannot show it.

It's a big flaw in the case for the 1935 statistical analysis book "Design of Experiments" used by science for 76 years, and the past 21 years under how to "fix it". Prior to the 1935 book by Ronald A. Fisher, and revised over and over, there were few people using statistical arguments. Instead, it was just a run of one experiment and hopes others can repeat it.

Since 1990 after flawed drug tests were discovered, especially in the area of safety, the method was seen to still be in need of a huge overhaul to eliminate bias still accidentally getting in. Drug companies were seeing the damage to the true nature of their products from contaminating bias in their studies. As they went global in research, the target group of people were found out that placebo there can be stronger than here by cultural differences set up in the mind.

So, for your unsupported claims, you are also not set free.

It now becomes a matter of what system you just want to believe in. Science misses more often than it hits, by just examining the natural bias toward no result (false negatives). That is due to the fact most problems will err on randomizing the situation.

But the laugh is all about each side being so damn sure of themselves. And all each has is a belief. Scientists are even making arguments to "fudge it" more or less for certain highly placebo affected studies, like in antidepressants.


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  • I am not really defending you Jeff. - kurt s 17:41:35 04/09/11 (0)

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