In Reply to: Low Hy? How about no Hy? posted by Ray Moth on May 5, 2007 at 16:16:00:
...will be lost if there is no choke.And this point is that a PROPER choke input filter doesn't take pulses from the AC line at the peak of the waveform, but takes an almost a pure AC signal - hence the AC wiring, transformer, diodes and assocciated circuitry don't splash intense pulses of RF around the inside of the amp at 100 or 120Hz and all harmonics up to daylight!
A following regulator will/should kill the B+ ripple for certain, but so what if the sensitive input circuitry is being bathed in wideband pulsed RF?
A second point is that these pulses are present in the powertransformer's magnetic field - and therefore appear on the heater lines, and on any other voltage made from the same transformer that is driving a cap input filter!
The same thing happens with a cap input DC heater supply for a preamp/phono stage - this can make HUGE pulses which lay themselves over the B+, even if that's using a choke input filter.
Personal experience...not just theory!
Regards, Allen
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- Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Allen Wright 03:18:51 05/06/07 (21)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Ray Moth 11:38:51 05/06/07 (7)
- "avoid the use of a heavy and expensive choke" - Allen Wright 05:06:23 05/07/07 (5)
- Re: "avoid the use of a heavy and expensive choke" - Ray Moth 06:35:11 05/07/07 (4)
- Compared to the cost, size and weight of using Plitrons for... - Allen Wright 14:47:57 05/07/07 (3)
- Re: Compared to the cost, size and weight of using Plitrons for... - Ray Moth 00:35:47 05/08/07 (2)
- "It seems a choke-input filter (a real one!) is a hard act to follow" - Allen Wright 01:34:53 05/08/07 (1)
- Re: "It seems a choke-input filter (a real one!) is a hard act to follow" - drlowmu 06:27:31 05/08/07 (0)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Eli Duttman 16:56:55 05/06/07 (0)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Tre' 09:58:58 05/06/07 (10)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Ray Moth 06:42:30 05/07/07 (0)
- EXACTLY!!! (nt) - Allen Wright 05:09:03 05/07/07 (0)
- dynamically incorrect (nt) - drlowmu 16:08:50 05/06/07 (1)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - sorenj07 10:13:44 05/06/07 (6)
- Re: Critical Inductance.... - JimL 19:53:36 05/06/07 (3)
- And if some's good, and more's better... - Allen Wright 05:12:46 05/07/07 (2)
- Re: And if some's good, and more's better... - JimL 18:24:05 05/07/07 (0)
- In case you missed the memo - Russ57 08:15:33 05/07/07 (0)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Tre' 11:06:16 05/06/07 (0)
- Re: Ray, the whole point of using a choke input filter... - Eli Duttman 10:27:02 05/06/07 (0)
- Well put... - BBeck 06:03:20 05/06/07 (1)
- Yup! (nt) - Allen Wright 01:37:25 05/08/07 (0)