In Reply to: Jeff's low initial C PS ideas may not be entirely novel ... posted by mikeyb on April 20, 2007 at 05:50:33:
I did not have the impression that anyone thought that using an initial cap of under 2uf in a power supply was novel. I thought that was well known in the standard texts we use, and has been discussed lots of times on this forum. If that cap is below 2 uf more or less, the power supply behaves like a choke input supply, but above 2uf more or less it jumps to acting like a cap input supply (higher voltages).I have used the quasi choke approach in a number of experiments. If you decide to go with the quasi-choke approach, the ability to select an initial cap between say .01 and 2.0 uf lets you dial in a B+ voltage over a pretty wide range. This is handy when using salvaged transformers.
I once asserted on this forum without having done my homework that that initial cap might reduce the stress on the choke (given that many of us use chokes that were not designed for service as the input in an LC power supply). If memory serves, someone (Henry P I think) posted with much deeper insight that this assumption is not necessarily true.
Jeff's more novel claim is for a low L initial choke, with or without the low C in front of it.
Steve Root
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- Re: Jeff's low initial C PS ideas may not be entirely novel ... - Perseo 06:04:18 04/20/07 (69)
- Re: Jeff's low initial C PS ideas may not be entirely novel ... - drlowmu 06:29:32 04/20/07 (68)
- One last try for info on the V-850 - mikeyb 19:18:16 04/22/07 (2)
- Re: One last try for info on the V-850 - drlowmu 19:17:40 04/23/07 (1)
- Re: One last try for info on the V-850 - rdf 19:38:24 04/23/07 (0)
- Panasonic V-850 - mikeyb 10:25:54 04/20/07 (17)
- Re: That '22 mH' choke may have an inductance of 22 mH at 10 KHz, but not at 120 Hz. - Ray Moth 15:22:34 04/20/07 (9)
- Re: That '22 mH' choke may have an inductance of 22 mH at 10 KHz, but not at 120 Hz. - Triode_Kingdom 15:42:08 04/20/07 (8)
- Re: That '22 mH' choke may have an inductance of 22 mH at 10 KHz, but not at 120 Hz. - rdf 15:06:40 04/22/07 (0)
- Thanks, I see. - Ray Moth 16:11:08 04/21/07 (0)
- Thanks, guys! - mikeyb 06:34:55 04/21/07 (3)
- Re: Thanks, guys! - Dave Cigna 07:49:38 04/21/07 (2)
- Re: Thanks, guys! - Tre' 08:46:58 04/21/07 (1)
- Re: Thanks, guys! - Dave Cigna 14:59:24 04/21/07 (0)
- Re: That '22 mH' choke may have an inductance of 22 mH at 10 KHz, but not at 120 Hz. - Dave Cigna 05:39:16 04/21/07 (1)
- Re: That '22 mH' choke may have an inductance of 22 mH at 10 KHz, but not at 120 Hz. - Eli Duttman 15:15:04 04/21/07 (0)
- Re: Panasonic V-850 - dave slagle 13:28:44 04/20/07 (6)
- Re: Panasonic V-850 - mikeyb 13:42:38 04/20/07 (5)
- Re: Panasonic V-850 - rdf 16:06:22 04/20/07 (4)
- Re: Panasonic V-850 - drlowmu 17:15:14 04/20/07 (3)
- Again, can you give me some details - mikeyb 06:33:22 04/21/07 (1)
- Re: Again, can you give me some details - dave slagle 06:46:16 04/21/07 (0)
- Re: Panasonic V-850 - rdf 18:03:26 04/20/07 (0)
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- Re: Actually, it's just a bunch of hooey - Larry D. Moore 10:26:10 04/20/07 (1)
- Anybody can say that about anything... - Triode_Kingdom 11:28:18 04/20/07 (0)
- Re: Actually, it's just a bunch of hooey - dave slagle 10:20:40 04/20/07 (42)
- Thanks Dave Slagle and Larry D. Moore .... - drlowmu 13:31:13 04/20/07 (5)
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- Henry's Flywheel - Ty 13:29:46 04/20/07 (0)
- Re: I'm sure you're right, but that's not what I said. - dave slagle 13:18:30 04/20/07 (33)
- Re: I'm sure you're right, but that's not what I said. - Triode_Kingdom 14:14:43 04/20/07 (32)
- Re: I'm sure you're right, but that's not what I said. - dave slagle 15:33:29 04/20/07 (3)
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- Re: Shunt capacitance - dave slagle 11:04:44 04/21/07 (1)
- Re: Shunt capacitance - Triode_Kingdom 19:40:41 04/21/07 (0)
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- Re: Low DCR I felt the same way but... - Triode_Kingdom 09:13:42 04/21/07 (2)
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- Re: See this.... - Ty 05:26:23 04/22/07 (4)
- Sure Ty......... - drlowmu 07:20:24 04/22/07 (3)
- nope - Ty 08:44:06 04/22/07 (2)
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- Re: Ahhh, I got it ! But..... - Ty 10:21:00 04/22/07 (0)
- Re: Low DCR I felt the same way but... - griboon 20:19:32 04/20/07 (0)
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