UL is cheaper than properly implemented true pentode. - sser2

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Topic - Why do some people dislike UL? - Ray Moth 14:12:56 03/17/07 (77)

Maybe - because - Gingertube 20:49:25 03/20/07 (0)

Because it is flawed thinking. - JLH 06:45:33 03/19/07 (3)

Re: Because it is flawed thinking. Well maybe not so flawed... - Steve O 12:10:26 03/19/07 (2)

Re: Because it is flawed thinking. Well maybe not so flawed... - JLH 18:15:10 03/19/07 (1)

Re: Because it is flawed thinking. Well maybe not so flawed... - Steve O 20:07:16 03/19/07 (0)

I'm not one of them - Gingertube 20:23:55 03/18/07 (0)

Re: Why do some people dislike UL? - garymuffley@fuse.net 16:49:42 03/18/07 (0)

McIntosh Got It Right with Cathode Feedback - Triode_Kingdom 16:31:22 03/18/07 (2)

Re: McIntosh "criss-crossed" screens... - Steve O 17:36:10 03/18/07 (1)

A clever explanation! [nt] - Ray Moth 10:18:19 03/19/07 (0)

Because they don't use enough other NFB paths - -3db 15:54:04 03/18/07 (0)

Because in my own extensive tests, it lost information... - Allen Wright 04:34:26 03/18/07 (16)

NFB in general is problematical ... - Naz 17:30:00 03/19/07 (0)

I totally agree. "it lost information" - JLH 07:03:35 03/19/07 (3)

Excellent JLH !! (nt) - drlowmu 11:08:44 03/19/07 (2)

Re: Excellent JLH !! (nt) - Ray Moth 19:17:52 03/19/07 (0)

Re: Excellent JLH !! (nt) - Ray Moth 19:15:04 03/19/07 (0)

Re: Because in my own extensive tests, it lost information... - Eli Duttman 05:36:29 03/18/07 (10)

That sounds similar ! - cheap-Jack 09:41:35 03/19/07 (6)

A good example of what I meant - Ray Moth 10:14:13 03/19/07 (5)

No, U-L was invented by Alan Blumlein in 1937, - cheap-Jack 10:45:07 03/19/07 (4)

Re: No, U-L was invented by Alan Blumlein in 1937, - Ray Moth 19:04:44 03/19/07 (2)

Good question on "Ultra-Linear". - cheap-Jack 13:39:39 03/20/07 (1)

Misinformation - fatbottle 03:46:15 03/22/07 (0)

Now that's a ref. I'd really like to read! - Try-ode 11:07:10 03/19/07 (0)

never had easy acccesss to such transformers - and... - Allen Wright 06:00:13 03/19/07 (0)

also - Try-ode 06:06:31 03/18/07 (1)

I don't - it's only used in pure triode amps (nt) - Allen Wright 05:58:46 03/19/07 (0)

Re: Why do some people dislike UL? - hahax@verizon.net 22:05:02 03/17/07 (17)

UL is cheaper than properly implemented true pentode. - sser2 22:40:49 03/17/07 (16)

Re: UL is cheaper than properly implemented true pentode. - Jim McShane 19:03:01 03/18/07 (15)

We are DIY here. - sser2 22:14:22 03/18/07 (2)

Re: We are DIY here. - Jim McShane 06:42:26 03/19/07 (1)

Yes! - Try-ode 07:09:53 03/19/07 (0)

Citation II - Triode_Kingdom 21:29:32 03/18/07 (11)

Re: Citation II - Jim McShane 06:21:20 03/19/07 (10)

Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Triode_Kingdom 08:17:54 03/19/07 (9)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 08:51:17 03/19/07 (8)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Triode_Kingdom 21:04:06 03/19/07 (5)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 07:16:08 03/20/07 (0)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 06:45:45 03/20/07 (0)

Re: What UL did better for Citation II - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 04:14:01 03/20/07 (2)

Nonsense - Triode_Kingdom 06:22:08 03/20/07 (1)

Re: Nonsense - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 10:19:14 03/20/07 (0)

Was the reason because when the transformers he ordered were delivered - Ivan303 17:46:05 03/19/07 (1)

Re: Was the reason because when the transformers he ordered were delivered - Jim McShane 19:14:27 03/19/07 (0)

just a thought... - Dave Cigna 17:36:35 03/17/07 (17)

Re: just a thought... - Eli Duttman 03:25:46 03/18/07 (3)

Re: just a thought... - Ray Moth 03:59:56 03/18/07 (2)

Re: just a thought... - Eli Duttman 05:23:47 03/18/07 (1)

If 32V Vp idle over g2 "significant" enough? - cheap-Jack 12:31:04 03/19/07 (0)

Re: just a thought... - Try-ode 18:55:33 03/17/07 (12)

Good point! - Dave Cigna 16:09:55 03/18/07 (6)

But!!! - Try-ode 18:10:53 03/18/07 (5)

Re: But!!! - Steve O 19:45:39 03/18/07 (4)

still, But!!! - Try-ode 06:01:05 03/19/07 (3)

oops... - Try-ode 06:53:30 03/19/07 (2)

It's not exactly the same.... - Dave Cigna 12:52:37 03/19/07 (1)

Re: It's not exactly the same.... - Try-ode 15:49:41 03/19/07 (0)

Re: just a thought... - Ray Moth 03:19:29 03/18/07 (4)

Re: just a thought... - Try-ode 04:50:58 03/18/07 (3)

Re: Forbidden methods? - Dave-A 09:53:42 03/18/07 (2)

Re: Forbidden methods? - Try-ode 15:05:43 03/18/07 (1)

Hi Douglas...;-) /n - Ivan303 15:45:52 03/18/07 (0)

3 reasons why UL is inferior to triode or pentode. - sser2 16:12:09 03/17/07 (8)

approching triode operation with pentode power - Ralph 11:17:03 03/19/07 (4)

Re: approching triode operation with pentode power - Ray Moth 19:11:44 03/19/07 (3)

Re: approching triode operation with pentode power - Jim McShane 06:59:52 03/20/07 (2)

Re: approching triode operation with pentode power - Ralph 09:34:04 03/20/07 (1)

Re: approching triode operation with pentode power - Jim McShane 13:34:12 03/20/07 (0)

Reason No. 4 - Triode_Kingdom 16:23:52 03/18/07 (0)

Re: 3 reasons why UL is inferior to triode or pentode. - Ray Moth 03:13:56 03/18/07 (0)

Re: 3 reasons why UL is inferior to triode or pentode. - Eli Duttman 03:08:02 03/18/07 (0)

Re: Why do some people dislike UL? - Poindexter 15:12:09 03/17/07 (2)

Re: Why do some people dislike UL? - Ray Moth 03:24:08 03/18/07 (1)

My admittedly subjective take; - Poindexter 20:11:33 03/18/07 (0)

Re: Why do some people dislike UL? - sorenj07 14:19:07 03/17/07 (0)

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UL is cheaper than properly implemented true pentode. - sser2 22:40:49 03/17/07 (16)

Re: UL is cheaper than properly implemented true pentode. - Jim McShane 19:03:01 03/18/07 (15)

We are DIY here. - sser2 22:14:22 03/18/07 (2)

Re: We are DIY here. - Jim McShane 06:42:26 03/19/07 (1)

Yes! - Try-ode 07:09:53 03/19/07 (0)

Citation II - Triode_Kingdom 21:29:32 03/18/07 (11)

Re: Citation II - Jim McShane 06:21:20 03/19/07 (10)

Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Triode_Kingdom 08:17:54 03/19/07 (9)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 08:51:17 03/19/07 (8)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Triode_Kingdom 21:04:06 03/19/07 (5)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 07:16:08 03/20/07 (0)

Re: Sorry, I don't see the basis for your statement.. - Jim McShane 06:45:45 03/20/07 (0)

Re: What UL did better for Citation II - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 04:14:01 03/20/07 (2)

Nonsense - Triode_Kingdom 06:22:08 03/20/07 (1)

Re: Nonsense - Mahatma Kane Jeeves 10:19:14 03/20/07 (0)

Was the reason because when the transformers he ordered were delivered - Ivan303 17:46:05 03/19/07 (1)

Re: Was the reason because when the transformers he ordered were delivered - Jim McShane 19:14:27 03/19/07 (0)