In Reply to: Re: Look, running multiple subjects who can see, hear, etc, each other posted by Jitter_by_Coffee on December 2, 2002 at 06:26:34:
First, unless you're running a self-training test, which again is something you do only for one subject at a time, you must in fact be familiar with the material as well as the test method, etc, via training if nothing else.You claim this is "introducing a bias", well, then, why don't you submit a paper to JASA or a good psychometrics journal and have it reviewed and see what people say? Why don't you show your results that demonstrate sensitivity? Evidence, man, let's see it.
As to the number of subjects, just how many trials do you run per subject?
Oh, and no, not everyone runs multiple subjects per test. Do not presume to tell others how they work.
You're willing to anonymously introduce all of these claims, but it's time to cough up. Show me the papers, the evidence, and the test results that show that you can run a sensitive test when the subjects are not familiar with the material and you run multiple subjects at once. Show the evidence that the subjects don't cross-influence each other, as well.
You've made the claims, they runs strongly counter to both my experience and the state of the art as expressed in the literature, so let's see the evidence.
JJ - Philalethist and Annoyer of Bullies
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Follow Ups
- So, how many subjects do you run, and how many trials per subject? - jj 07:24:32 12/02/02 (38)
- Re: So, how many subjects do you run, and how many trials per subject? - Jitter_by_Coffee 17:27:51 12/02/02 (36)
- Well, if you run one subject, and they control the switching... - jj 20:59:20 12/02/02 (35)
- Re: Well, if you run one subject, and they control the switching... - Jitter_by_Coffee 13:52:28 12/03/02 (34)
- Argumentum ad exhaustion is hardly convincing - jj 18:03:27 12/03/02 (33)
- Re: Argumentum ad exhaustion is hardly convincing - Jitter_by_Coffee 06:25:59 12/04/02 (32)
- It's called "peer review", Jit - E-Stat 18:00:48 12/04/02 (18)
- Re: It's called "peer review", Jit - Jitter_by_Coffee 07:54:26 12/05/02 (17)
- Here - E-Stat 09:24:36 12/05/02 (16)
- And by all means - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:51:38 12/05/02 (10)
- Why bother? - E-Stat 16:28:36 12/05/02 (9)
- Re: Why bother? - Jitter_by_Coffee 16:59:32 12/05/02 (8)
- It is truly a shame that - E-Stat 20:10:33 12/05/02 (7)
- Re: It is truly a shame that - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:50:07 12/06/02 (6)
- Re: It is truly a shame that - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:52:01 12/06/02 (5)
- Indeed opinions play a part - E-Stat 14:20:55 12/06/02 (4)
- Re: Indeed opinions play a part - Jitter_by_Coffee 22:37:10 12/06/02 (3)
- Let me refresh you memory - E-Stat 07:26:55 12/07/02 (2)
- Re: Let me refresh you memory - Jitter_by_Coffee 06:37:48 12/09/02 (1)
- Actually, I was at Disney two weeks ago - E-Stat 11:49:06 12/09/02 (0)
- Re: Here - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:47:34 12/05/02 (4)
- Re: Here - E-Stat 14:41:06 12/05/02 (3)
- Re: Here - Jitter_by_Coffee 16:58:50 12/05/02 (2)
- They do so on a regular basis - E-Stat 20:07:34 12/05/02 (1)
- Re: They do so on a regular basis - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:48:26 12/06/02 (0)
- Your point? You want to claim that your methods are effective.... - jj 09:54:30 12/04/02 (12)
- Re: Your point? You want to claim that your methods are effective.... - Jitter_by_Coffee 07:51:01 12/05/02 (11)
- Semantic evasion likewise. - jj 15:11:53 12/05/02 (10)
- Re: Semantic evasion likewise. - Jitter_by_Coffee 17:16:40 12/05/02 (9)
- Let's not let the facts bother you, eh? - jj 19:25:02 12/05/02 (8)
- Re: Let's not let the facts bother you, eh? - Jitter_by_Coffee 11:46:59 12/06/02 (7)
- Stop creating false positions for me. - jj 23:49:17 12/08/02 (6)
- Re: Stop creating false positions for me. - Jitter_by_Coffee 06:31:06 12/09/02 (5)
- I guess, once again, you can't deal with the facts... - jj 16:38:53 12/09/02 (4)
- Re: I guess, once again, you can't deal with the facts... - Jitter_by_Coffee 07:14:00 12/18/02 (3)
- It's time for you to retire from this, and admit you have nothing at hand - jj 17:58:41 12/18/02 (2)
- Re: It's time for you to retire from this, and admit you have nothing at hand - Jitter_by_Coffee 05:22:44 12/20/02 (1)
- See the CFP above - jj 21:00:26 12/26/02 (0)
- I'm curious too - E-Stat 15:35:10 12/02/02 (0)