In Reply to: Re: Hawksford posted by slope on September 30, 2003 at 12:14:47:
This is tough, because I don't have it in any good form, myself. That is why I relied on John Atkinson of 'Stereophile' to get Hawksford's '95 paper in their archives. He hasn't done it as yet.
This is my take on what Hawksford is trying to point out:
Most of the signal travels at nearly the speed of light to the other end of the wire. This we all agree on.
BUT, because wire has FINITE resistance, the magnetic and electrostatic portions of the the wave are not EXACTLY orthogonal (or 90 degrees apart). This causes a (loss wave) that is radial to the wire, or goes across it. This wave is very slow, BECAUSE the wire is still very, very conductive, compared to the insulator where most of the signal flows. In this process, especially when skin effect becomes important, the voltage/current phase shift of the loss wave becomes important. So when you abruptly turn OFF a sine wave, the current continues to flow for a short time. This is NOT inductance, DA, or any magnetic properties of the material, but is related to the currents that cause 'skin effect'. Now I could be wrong in some details, but this is the best of what I understand, so far. For the record, Slope, I hope that you can get more info on this, and I will give you every reasonable info that I can. Please remember, it is NOT my work, or my specialty that we are discussing. I have to ask questions as well.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 14:33:22 09/30/03 (26)
- Hi John..Hey, is figure 4 drawn correctly? - jneutron 04:50:26 10/02/03 (2)
- Re: Hi John..Hey, is figure 4 drawn correctly? - john curl 09:31:59 10/02/03 (1)
- thanks..ya gotta hate those typos. - jneutron 10:16:44 10/02/03 (0)
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 08:23:08 10/01/03 (0)
- Wait a minute..Did you just say I'm the only one with a clear copy?? - jneutron 08:06:42 10/01/03 (0)
- Hmmm... published in wrong place? - Julie's husband 15:32:40 09/30/03 (1)
- Re: Hmmm... published in wrong place? - jneutron 08:13:59 10/01/03 (0)
- Re: Hawksford - Claude Abraham 15:24:39 09/30/03 (18)
- Hi Claude - jneutron 06:43:47 10/01/03 (0)
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 22:19:43 09/30/03 (16)
- Re: Hawksford - Claude Abraham 16:35:53 10/01/03 (14)
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 23:14:12 10/01/03 (3)
- Re: Hawksford - jneutron 23:28:42 10/01/03 (2)
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 00:59:55 10/02/03 (1)
- Thanks. any other parameters there? - jneutron 02:59:18 10/02/03 (0)
- Hi Claude - jneutron 22:12:51 10/01/03 (7)
- Re: Hi John - Claude Abraham 09:34:05 10/02/03 (5)
- Re: Hi John - john curl 13:49:17 10/02/03 (3)
- Re: 'Inductance' definition - Claude Abraham 14:42:17 10/02/03 (2)
- Re: 'Inductance' definition - jneutron 06:07:57 10/03/03 (1)
- Crap..just when it's gettin interesting... - jneutron 18:38:49 10/08/03 (0)
- Arggghh..ya got me.. - jneutron 10:56:40 10/02/03 (0)
- "darn". forgot some numbers. - jneutron 22:52:12 10/01/03 (0)
- Re: Hawksford - john curl 20:40:29 10/01/03 (1)
- Re: Hawksford - Claude Abraham 13:48:38 10/02/03 (0)
- HI John - jneutron 06:31:53 10/01/03 (0)