In Reply to: I think so but what's that got to do with this discussion? posted by Goober58 on November 6, 2012 at 13:52:00:
The OP was making the case for measurements being better than human hearing."Human perception via senses are limited. Both in terms of degree and especially in quantification ability. Because of this academia & sciences developed empirical measurement techniques to quantify aspects of phenomenon normally observed by human perception but were difficult to quantify. As electronics developed, devices came available to measure all aspects of the specific applications being explored. Most of these devices were capable of measuring parameters far beyond the ability of human perception. This is why in the case of the "listening dog" example we can actually measure, using a device like a spectrum analyzer, what the dog is hearing and what we cannot."
I am making the case for human hearing being better, at least for some aspects of the sound, than meaurements. Let me rephrase my previous post. If one system produces a soundstage height that is taller than a second system, how would you go about measuring the systems to determine what was responsible? Same for musicality - for a system with perceived better musicality than a second system, how would you go about measuring the systems to determine what was responsible?
Edits: 11/06/12
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Follow Ups
- It's got everything to do with it. - geoffkait 14:52:41 11/06/12 (22)
- That's not how I read it and you aren't making much of a case for you own claim... - Goober58 15:25:19 11/06/12 (21)
- RE: "PERIOD!" - More like SEMICOLON - geoffkait 18:35:16 11/06/12 (20)
- I believed I heard a difference when I used my magic chip - Goober58 21:33:21 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: "Unfortunately the disks I selected as being improved were not the ones processed." - geoffkait 00:47:06 11/07/12 (18)
- Oh? - Goober58 10:37:20 11/07/12 (17)
- Hmmmm - geoffkait 11:10:14 11/07/12 (16)
- Yep - Goober58 11:51:26 11/07/12 (15)
- Outlier - geoffkait 12:47:56 11/07/12 (14)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 14:28:15 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Outlier - geoffkait 15:53:21 11/07/12 (12)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 17:00:07 11/07/12 (11)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - geoffkait 05:55:24 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - Goober58 06:42:12 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: 9 different CDs - geoffkait 08:05:44 11/08/12 (8)
- That didn't matter to me - Goober58 09:57:02 11/08/12 (5)
- Good enough won't cut it. - Tony Lauck 11:30:04 11/08/12 (1)
- Sorry Tony but good enough does cut it - Goober58 13:17:23 11/08/12 (0)
- These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 10:16:16 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - Goober58 13:05:51 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 16:26:41 11/08/12 (0)
- Loving thoughts - Tony Lauck 09:04:26 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: Loving thoughts - geoffkait 09:33:46 11/08/12 (0)