In Reply to: Please Tony.... posted by Goober58 on November 6, 2012 at 08:44:19:
It is possible to measure differences that can not be heard. It is possible to hear differences that can not be measured using available equipment and techniques. Failure to measure differences is not an indication that they are not audible. Failure to hear differences is not an indication that they would not be audible under different circumstances, such as a different listener, trained and focused listening, different musical selections, and different playback equipment.
Having an open mind as to the possibility of hearing these differences is perhaps the biggest factor. If one starts out with a belief that they will be inaudible one is unlikely to take the appropriate steps to hear the differences.
In the history of audio there are many instances where people heard differences that could not be measured and later it was discovered how to make measurements that could show these differences. This is particularly common when new technology is introduced, since the commonly used measurements were developed to capture the limitations of an older technology. A newer technology may add other types of differences that are not captured using older measurement techniques.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Follow Ups
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:06:34 11/06/12 (47)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 09:32:08 11/06/12 (46)
- Sorry to break in, but - geoffkait 11:08:54 11/06/12 (24)
- I think so but what's that got to do with this discussion? - Goober58 13:52:00 11/06/12 (23)
- It's got everything to do with it. - geoffkait 14:52:41 11/06/12 (22)
- That's not how I read it and you aren't making much of a case for you own claim... - Goober58 15:25:19 11/06/12 (21)
- RE: "PERIOD!" - More like SEMICOLON - geoffkait 18:35:16 11/06/12 (20)
- I believed I heard a difference when I used my magic chip - Goober58 21:33:21 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: "Unfortunately the disks I selected as being improved were not the ones processed." - geoffkait 00:47:06 11/07/12 (18)
- Oh? - Goober58 10:37:20 11/07/12 (17)
- Hmmmm - geoffkait 11:10:14 11/07/12 (16)
- Yep - Goober58 11:51:26 11/07/12 (15)
- Outlier - geoffkait 12:47:56 11/07/12 (14)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 14:28:15 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Outlier - geoffkait 15:53:21 11/07/12 (12)
- RE: Outlier - Goober58 17:00:07 11/07/12 (11)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - geoffkait 05:55:24 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: "...in each set of three" - Goober58 06:42:12 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: 9 different CDs - geoffkait 08:05:44 11/08/12 (8)
- That didn't matter to me - Goober58 09:57:02 11/08/12 (5)
- Good enough won't cut it. - Tony Lauck 11:30:04 11/08/12 (1)
- Sorry Tony but good enough does cut it - Goober58 13:17:23 11/08/12 (0)
- These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 10:16:16 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - Goober58 13:05:51 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: These things happen (for a reason) - geoffkait 16:26:41 11/08/12 (0)
- Loving thoughts - Tony Lauck 09:04:26 11/08/12 (1)
- RE: Loving thoughts - geoffkait 09:33:46 11/08/12 (0)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 09:41:34 11/06/12 (20)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 15:59:52 11/06/12 (19)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 16:44:15 11/06/12 (18)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 10:50:38 11/07/12 (17)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 11:07:24 11/07/12 (16)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Goober58 12:10:24 11/07/12 (15)
- Yet... - E-Stat 14:32:27 11/07/12 (13)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 06:51:49 11/08/12 (10)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 07:02:48 11/08/12 (9)
- RE: Yet... - Goober58 10:08:50 11/08/12 (8)
- RE: Yet... - E-Stat 10:21:38 11/08/12 (7)
- How should I know? - Goober58 15:07:42 11/08/12 (6)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 15:38:09 11/08/12 (5)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 16:00:41 11/08/12 (4)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 16:18:16 11/08/12 (3)
- RE: How should I know? - Goober58 17:03:59 11/08/12 (2)
- RE: How should I know? - E-Stat 17:15:48 11/08/12 (1)
- What a tired strawman - Goober58 18:13:18 11/08/12 (0)
- But... - kerr 17:31:19 11/07/12 (1)
- Some - E-Stat 06:57:03 11/09/12 (0)
- RE: Please Tony.... - Tony Lauck 12:17:44 11/07/12 (0)