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RE: You're predictable: never deal with arguments.

One could say the same about all sorts of things. Controversies over astrology go back many centuries. Creationism has been argued for one and a half centuries, at least.

Meanwhile, people spend all sorts of money on them, just as many others spend lots of money on expensive interconnects, speaker cables, power cords, brilliant pebbles, intelligent chips, and so on. Some just want to see what the evidence actually supports.

Meanwhile, the advances in audio have been made by people who care about sound, who measure, develop and test hypotheses, and who look into psychoacoustics.

"Is there any argument I could make that would convince you of my position? Is there any argument you could make to convince me? Very unlikely, particularly since it's been going on 30 years with neither side budging."

30 years isn't all that long in history. It's not so much a matter of arguments but evidence. For example, you show me products whose performance differs by the amounts shown in the ABX matching criteria, and I'll accept some can detect the differences.


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