In Reply to: "Only 1% Jim"? - (A reply to a posting by Jim Austin.) posted by May Belt on March 11, 2007 at 05:09:54:
When I'm playing a record several times in a row, without making any changes whatsoever to the system, I usually hear different details every time. Why, simply because each time my attention is directed to something else. The first time I may concentrate on the harp, the second time on the strings, the brass, the woodwinds, the next time I might notice all of a sudden that there is some kind of low-level low-frequent background noise, or tape hiss. Does this mean that these details were not there the time before? So what does the fact of discovering new details in itself mean?Human auditory memory is notoriously bad, as one has to note when reading literature of perceptional science (such as Science 1965, Bindra : Judgements of sameness and difference : experiments on decision time), so that I would not attribute too much weight to statements of the kind "I painted the edge of the CD with that green pen and it improved the sound/made new details become apparent".
"There are too many things happening, too many things being reported as having an effect on sound, by too many people to continue to have a rigid, blinkered approach."Nuclear fusion at room temperature "has been reported" yet in France construction work on the experimental fusion reactor has started, a project scheduled for 30 years, generating thousands of jobs in the region. Apparently "has been reported" is not quite sufficient. The basic problem with high-end audio is that there is, at no instance, more than "has been reported", something that could be considered as solid, convincing, irrefutable, repeatable evidence.
As long as there is no proof, the great majority of people will continue to have that "rigid, blinkered approach", which approach is, in my opinion, more than justified.
Klaus
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Follow Ups
- Re: "it sounds as if I'm finding more and more detail" - KlausR. 04:49:20 03/12/07 (42)
- The "rigid, blinkered approach" is your prerogitive obviously... - Wellfed 12:34:07 03/12/07 (35)
- Re: The "rigid, blinkered approach" is your prerogitive obviously... - KlausR. 09:18:16 03/13/07 (12)
- I have no problem whatsoever with scepticism... - Wellfed 11:01:58 03/13/07 (11)
- Bonello and Schroeder - KlausR. 01:11:07 03/15/07 (9)
- Thanks for the info Klaus... - Wellfed 07:39:56 03/15/07 (8)
- Re: Meaningful comparison - KlausR. 01:02:53 03/16/07 (7)
- In any event... - Wellfed 14:51:45 03/16/07 (6)
- Re: In any event... - KlausR. 05:45:43 03/17/07 (5)
- I'd really love to hear your setup one day. [nt] - Wellfed 11:00:07 03/17/07 (4)
- You're welcome any time - KlausR. 02:30:20 03/18/07 (3)
- I'm a firm believer in... - Wellfed 06:26:31 03/18/07 (2)
- Don't wait too long or... - KlausR. 11:17:18 03/18/07 (1)
- I haven't been to the Netherlands since '85... - Wellfed 11:54:31 03/18/07 (0)
- What exactly is "enough 'evidence' for me to investigate a given product"? That's easy! - clarkjohnsen 12:16:40 03/13/07 (0)
- Extraordinary talk from the Chickenhawk (nt) - AJinFLA 15:19:45 03/12/07 (0)
- "improved system performance to an EXTRAORDINARY level." - clifff 13:36:10 03/12/07 (20)
- What did you see after having read the whole saga?... - Wellfed 18:10:10 03/12/07 (19)
- I'll speak for myself, Pat. - clifff 07:48:31 03/13/07 (16)
- Re: I'll speak for myself, Pat. - Ken Perkins 10:26:47 03/13/07 (13)
- What were the JREF rules I was unwilling to abide by?... - Wellfed 11:41:03 03/13/07 (5)
- Simple - Ken Perkins 13:21:30 03/13/07 (3)
- That is simple... - Wellfed 13:34:10 03/13/07 (2)
- Re: That is simple... - Ken Perkins 13:51:10 03/13/07 (1)
- The test didn't fall apart because Kramer was unwilling or unable to negotiate in good faith?... - Wellfed 14:50:43 03/13/07 (0)
- That's a pretty fair summary, from my watchful POV. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:10:21 03/13/07 (0)
- A good summary - clifff 10:42:09 03/13/07 (6)
- Plenty more, actually... - Wellfed 11:12:57 03/13/07 (5)
- Wellfed, by the time this "lie" was uttered - clifff 11:34:26 03/13/07 (4)
- My ego is secure Cliff... - Wellfed 12:13:45 03/13/07 (3)
- It must be comforting to feel so righteous. nt - clifff 13:08:20 03/13/07 (1)
- It is comforting to BE so righteous... - Wellfed 13:29:48 03/13/07 (0)
- "Kramer's call for me to have my back to the system." Might just as well... - clarkjohnsen 12:39:54 03/13/07 (0)
- "Now" I seem hung up that Kramer lied to me?... - Wellfed 09:36:17 03/13/07 (1)
- "the JREF Challenge is a hoax perpetrated on humanity." Indeed so, and documentation of that exists... - clarkjohnsen 12:37:21 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: What did you see after having read the whole saga?... - Pat D 06:40:25 03/13/07 (1)
- Are you truly willing to listen? [nt] - Wellfed 09:13:45 03/13/07 (0)
- Klaus, What I find fascinating... - Jim Austin 10:59:13 03/12/07 (4)
- We would not be here today had our senses not developed to allow us to perceive threats. - Norm 06:32:34 03/13/07 (0)
- Re: whatever we perceive must be real - KlausR. 03:08:43 03/13/07 (0)
- Think about the context of discovery - Lambda 12:02:16 03/12/07 (1)
- This is what we should go after..."unobservable forces" ! - cheap-Jack 13:21:34 03/12/07 (0)
- Re: "it sounds as if I'm finding more and more detail" - john curl 09:25:45 03/12/07 (0)