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In Reply to: RE: BIS SACD posted by vahe on June 9, 2012 at 12:59:45:
Tony Lauck says:
"A system should reproduce music undistorted at live concert levels, e.g. row 20 in an orchestral hall. If it can't, then complain about the system, not the recordings. "
Should all the BIS buyers own a high end system?? If so a warning label should be on the cd cover.
A few of my classical music friends that do have modest system complains about the BIS volume settings.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - BIS SACD - Disbeliever 02:37:16 06/09/12 (147)
- Philosophy of Recording & Listening - Botanico92007 10:52:32 06/18/12 (3)
- RE: Philosophy of Recording & Listening - Tony Lauck 18:32:51 06/29/12 (0)
- RE: Philosophy of Recording & Listening - bissie 11:42:33 06/18/12 (1)
- RE: Philosophy of Recording & Listening - Disbeliever 13:06:28 06/18/12 (0)
- Comment from Andrew MacGregor, BBC, Disbeliever's referral - bissie 06:17:21 06/18/12 (3)
- RE: Comment from Andrew MacGregor, BBC, Disbeliever's referral - Disbeliever 06:29:49 06/18/12 (1)
- RE: Comment from Andrew MacGregor, BBC, Disbeliever's referral - bissie 06:41:47 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: Comment from Andrew MacGregor, BBC, Disbeliever's referral - bissie 06:26:59 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - ahendler 17:19:07 06/16/12 (0)
- here's how to settle this - Joe Murphy Jr 16:42:35 06/16/12 (3)
- There is no hard limit on DSD levels - Tony Lauck 20:17:59 06/16/12 (2)
- that wasn't the point - Joe Murphy Jr 07:44:02 06/17/12 (1)
- RE: that wasn't the point - Tony Lauck 14:38:32 06/21/12 (0)
- BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - bissie 00:48:15 06/16/12 (22)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Fitzcaraldo215 10:53:34 06/16/12 (18)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 11:56:59 06/16/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Fitzcaraldo215 14:05:09 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 11:55:35 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 11:50:22 06/16/12 (14)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Tony Lauck 20:41:22 06/16/12 (13)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 00:40:51 06/17/12 (12)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - bissie 11:35:09 06/17/12 (10)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 12:37:58 06/17/12 (9)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - stvnharr 16:13:07 06/17/12 (8)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 23:09:47 06/17/12 (7)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - stvnharr 04:54:51 06/18/12 (6)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 05:05:59 06/18/12 (5)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - stvnharr 05:15:56 06/18/12 (4)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 05:24:16 06/18/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - stvnharr 17:42:46 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Fitzcaraldo215 06:45:32 06/18/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 09:21:02 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - bissie 11:32:58 06/17/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - srl1 08:03:31 06/16/12 (2)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - Disbeliever 10:47:43 06/16/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dynamics in general - bissie 13:05:49 06/16/12 (0)
- Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - krisjan 16:52:21 06/15/12 (17)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 23:03:59 06/15/12 (15)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - bissie 23:37:20 06/15/12 (14)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 23:56:05 06/15/12 (10)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Tony Lauck 20:24:56 06/16/12 (0)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - bissie 01:02:20 06/16/12 (8)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 01:25:52 06/16/12 (7)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - bissie 03:09:17 06/16/12 (6)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 03:27:29 06/16/12 (5)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - HumanMedia 04:00:27 06/30/12 (4)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 04:12:39 06/30/12 (3)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - Disbeliever 06:35:54 07/03/12 (2)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - flyingdutchman 12:51:30 07/03/12 (1)
- RE: Here's a reply from Robert Von Bahr of BIS... - flyingdutchman 12:53:18 07/03/12 (0)
- Robert - are hi-rez multi-channel downloads from BIS in the cards? - Chris from Lafayette 23:55:43 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: Robert - are hi-rez multi-channel downloads from BIS in the cards? - bissie 01:03:49 06/16/12 (1)
- Thanks - great news - looking forward to it! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 09:06:28 06/16/12 (0)
- I forgot to add that Robert sends his greetings to the forum here. * - krisjan 16:54:11 06/15/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 04:57:02 06/14/12 (6)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 08:00:06 06/14/12 (5)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 18:10:59 06/14/12 (4)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 23:43:54 06/14/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 06:12:07 06/15/12 (2)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 08:39:12 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 09:08:33 06/15/12 (0)
- Noise levels and dynamic range - layman 12:40:52 06/10/12 (20)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - ahendler 20:09:52 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - layman 11:00:49 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Robert C. Lang 19:48:04 06/10/12 (11)
- Recordings - layman 11:13:20 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Fitzcaraldo215 07:34:30 06/11/12 (9)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Robert C. Lang 16:10:15 06/11/12 (8)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Disbeliever 00:00:26 06/12/12 (7)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Fitzcaraldo215 05:57:55 06/12/12 (4)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Disbeliever 06:58:08 06/12/12 (3)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Fitzcaraldo215 13:54:01 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Tony Lauck 20:00:34 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Disbeliever 23:31:45 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Robert C. Lang 01:04:07 06/12/12 (1)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Disbeliever 06:49:44 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Fitzcaraldo215 19:27:04 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Tony Lauck 19:43:29 06/12/12 (0)
- Sorry to burst your bubble... - krisjan 17:54:20 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - Chris from Lafayette 13:12:35 06/10/12 (2)
- RE: Noise levels and dynamic range - layman 13:51:30 06/10/12 (1)
- I agree - banning of spectrographs on SA-CD.net also makes no sense [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 15:06:49 06/10/12 (0)
- BIS Dynamic Range - Fitzcaraldo215 09:25:45 06/10/12 (7)
- RE: BIS Dynamic Range - jazz1 14:45:15 06/10/12 (5)
- RE: BIS Dynamic Range - Fitzcaraldo215 19:03:51 06/10/12 (3)
- So the big question is... - jazz1 23:43:45 06/10/12 (2)
- RE: So the big question is... - Tony Lauck 19:30:57 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: So the big question is... - Fitzcaraldo215 08:10:13 06/11/12 (0)
- No - they're saying that COMPRESSION of the dynamic range limits the "air" [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 15:09:23 06/10/12 (0)
- As usual, Fitz, you've summed things up well and succinctly! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 13:03:53 06/10/12 (0)
- Well they do make for crappy background music.... - Chuck Y 08:38:53 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: Well they do make for crappy background music.... - Markgar 00:00:07 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - steveassante@comcast.net 20:50:50 06/09/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 02:37:36 06/10/12 (2)
- RE: BIS SACD - Tony Lauck 19:09:10 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - pbarach 05:19:37 06/10/12 (0)
- This thread is surreal - Chris from Lafayette 16:14:22 06/09/12 (20)
- RE: This thread is surreal - jazz1 01:31:46 06/10/12 (8)
- Yes, i would like other labels to follow BIS - rjan 23:24:55 06/10/12 (6)
- lets put this in a bit of perspective :) - Penguin 09:09:33 06/12/12 (5)
- People compressing or advocating compressing classical music should be shot. - Tony Lauck 19:03:36 06/12/12 (4)
- I think you misread this - Penguin 18:10:20 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: People compressing or advocating compressing classical music should be shot. - jazz1 01:17:08 06/13/12 (2)
- RE: People compressing or advocating compressing classical music should be shot. - Tony Lauck 07:37:42 06/13/12 (1)
- RE: People compressing or advocating compressing classical music should be shot. - jazz1 09:23:38 06/13/12 (0)
- RE: This thread is surreal - Mali 09:06:27 06/10/12 (0)
- It's a Brit thing. - Mali 22:54:47 06/09/12 (9)
- RE: It's a Brit thing. - Disbeliever 23:57:37 06/09/12 (8)
- It's a Disbeliever thing. - stvnharr 05:18:52 06/10/12 (7)
- RE: It's a Disbeliever thing. - Disbeliever 05:38:18 06/10/12 (6)
- RE: It's a Disbeliever thing. - fmak 21:53:57 06/10/12 (3)
- RE: It's a Disbeliever thing. - Disbeliever 23:45:59 06/10/12 (2)
- Why is - fmak 01:01:46 06/11/12 (1)
- RE: Why is - Disbeliever 01:23:55 06/11/12 (0)
- RE: It's a Disbeliever thing. - stvnharr 08:10:22 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: It's a Disbeliever thing. - ahendler 20:22:05 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: This thread is surreal - srl1 17:39:14 06/09/12 (0)
- Always liked their records artistically, but I've also always found them bad sounding. - jbcortes 10:51:49 06/09/12 (2)
- RE: Always liked their records artistically, but I've also always found them bad sounding. - jazz1 11:30:17 06/09/12 (1)
- RE: Always liked their records artistically, but I've also always found them bad sounding. - jbcortes 11:59:54 06/09/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - vahe 07:56:22 06/09/12 (12)
- RE: BIS SACD - Tony Lauck 18:13:40 06/09/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - vahe 18:26:11 06/09/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - ted_b 13:07:32 06/09/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Tony Lauck 12:14:00 06/09/12 (8)
- RE: BIS SACD - vahe 12:59:45 06/09/12 (7)
- RE: BIS SACD - jazz1 01:35:53 06/10/12 (6)
- RE: BIS SACD - vahe 07:19:09 06/10/12 (1)
- Yes - excellent points! - Chris from Lafayette 13:19:32 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 02:17:28 06/10/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - Tony Lauck 06:50:06 06/10/12 (2)
- wow 118db's !! - jazz1 08:36:01 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: wow 118db's !! - Tony Lauck 09:29:20 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Dave Billinge 06:14:27 06/09/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 05:25:02 06/09/12 (9)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 09:07:39 06/09/12 (8)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 10:31:07 06/09/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Fitzcaraldo215 10:20:17 06/09/12 (6)
- RE: BIS SACD - nairb 05:37:15 06/12/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - jazz1 11:35:37 06/09/12 (4)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 12:11:55 06/09/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - jazz1 23:21:06 06/09/12 (2)
- RE: BIS SACD - stvnharr 05:15:34 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - Mali 09:09:31 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - jazz1 04:58:47 06/09/12 (2)
- RE: BIS SACD - Fitzcaraldo215 10:40:19 06/09/12 (1)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 11:02:38 06/09/12 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: BIS SACD - jazz1 01:35:53 06/10/12 (6)
- RE: BIS SACD - vahe 07:19:09 06/10/12 (1)
- Yes - excellent points! - Chris from Lafayette 13:19:32 06/10/12 (0)
- RE: BIS SACD - Disbeliever 02:17:28 06/10/12 (3)
- RE: BIS SACD - Tony Lauck 06:50:06 06/10/12 (2)
- wow 118db's !! - jazz1 08:36:01 06/10/12 (1)
- RE: wow 118db's !! - Tony Lauck 09:29:20 06/10/12 (0)