In Reply to: RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... posted by Disbeliever on February 18, 2012 at 23:17:37:
You may indeed be very fortunate in your room, Gerald, which may indeed violate the laws of physics. But, have you ever measured it? Ignorance is bliss, perhaps.I have been witness to quite a few high end rooms, myself. I have yet to find one that did not suffer at least from quite serious modal problems in the bass, if not also lesser problems higher in frequency. Swings of plus/minus 7 to 12 dB are what I have observed in my sample. Tomlinson Holman has published an AES paper summarizing the measured results from thousands of rooms, which are consistent with that.
Properly done EQ has always provided an obvious and substantial improvement, not just to my ears but to all who have heard it. Any text on room acoustics will make it clear why any typical listening room will have response non-linearities due to bass modes. Only passive treatments and/or EQ can begin to clear that up. Actually, many acousticians increasingly recommend using both. Those issues will be there with even the best of speakers and related gear, if untreated. Published speaker responses under anechoic conditions are a far cry from typical in-room response, but perhaps your room is somehow magically free of the problems that plague virtually all others.
Edits: 02/19/12
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- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 07:41:22 02/19/12 (30)
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- Well........... - Kal Rubinson 05:59:59 02/23/12 (16)
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- Well, there you have it. - Kal Rubinson 08:00:15 02/24/12 (11)
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- Old and hoary story. - Kal Rubinson 08:27:59 02/26/12 (5)
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- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:06:16 02/21/12 (5)
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