In Reply to: Multichannel SACD upgrade path.... posted by oscar on February 16, 2012 at 08:15:12:
There are two very strong schools of thought regarding best practices in implementing
hi rez Mch. The first is to do it the traditional way via analog interconnection from the player to a suitable analog controller.In the pure analog-interconnected DSD case, tailspn's system near Boston, was quite exceptional, using an EMM player, custom passive Mch "controller", high quality Parasound JC-1 amps and five full range Sound Labs electostats in a treated room. A second example of that paradigm was a recording reviewers's system using an Audio Research controller with an Esoteric player with Wilson speakers and Pass Labs amps in an untreated room. The first was a huge success, the latter a disappointment.
I have also heard numerous examples of the alternative paradigm, using HDMI into a digital controller. Most of my audio friends and I use this coupled with DSP room EQ into some qite costly systems. The aforementioned recording reviewer abandoned that first paradigm in favor of this one on hearing examples of both in his room with his system.
So, I think there are good and inferior examples of both approaches. But, the real key is in several issues. The first paradigm requires identical, equidistant speakers and cannot accommodate a subwoofer via bass management for all channels. The second paradigm can apply speaker distance correction, bass management to a sub and room EQ to to compensate for room acoustics issues, huge advantages.
Both approaches can be successfull, but neither is a panacea. I think the first paradigm requires major aspects of cost and care in dealing with super pure equipment selection and passive room treatments. The second paradigm is somewhat freer of these restraints and allows for more flexibility in setup. Which is best? Only you can decide that in your situation to your ears.
I and several others I know well have all opted for the second paradigm. We are all frequent classical concert goers and have been high end audiophiles for decades with systems in an approximately MSRP range of $40 - $100k. We all feel that we have achieved by far the closest approach to live concert sound in our lifetime via hi Rez Mch with DSP room EQ. To us, it is not close. We are unanimous in feeling that EQ plus Mch has been the biggest audio breakthrough of our lifetime, bigger than stereo was over mono, in fact, and we are all old and experienced enough to have gone through that transition.
Edits: 02/16/12 02/16/12
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- RE: Multichannel SACD upgrade path.... - Fitzcaraldo215 20:18:47 02/16/12 (44)
- I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - oscar 05:16:20 02/17/12 (43)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 15:01:18 02/17/12 (5)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:13:09 02/18/12 (4)
- Those assumptions are questionable. - Kal Rubinson 08:17:55 02/18/12 (3)
- RE: Those assumptions are questionable. - Disbeliever 10:36:39 02/18/12 (2)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 07:25:33 02/17/12 (36)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - dbphd 12:21:57 02/18/12 (35)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 13:14:28 02/18/12 (34)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - ted_b 14:52:24 02/18/12 (33)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 23:17:37 02/18/12 (32)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 07:41:22 02/19/12 (30)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 10:48:22 02/19/12 (29)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 13:45:58 02/20/12 (28)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:12:47 02/21/12 (21)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 11:03:07 02/22/12 (20)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 21:59:55 02/22/12 (19)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:50:27 02/23/12 (18)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Fitzcaraldo215 15:11:32 02/23/12 (0)
- Well........... - Kal Rubinson 05:59:59 02/23/12 (16)
- RE: Well........... - Disbeliever 06:59:25 02/23/12 (15)
- RE: Well........... - Fitzcaraldo215 12:30:41 02/23/12 (14)
- RE: Well........... - Disbeliever 23:12:14 02/23/12 (13)
- Well, there you have it. - Kal Rubinson 08:00:15 02/24/12 (11)
- RE: Well, there you have it. - Disbeliever 08:07:27 02/24/12 (10)
- RE: Well, there you have it. - Fitzcaraldo215 12:27:42 02/24/12 (9)
- RE: Well, there you have it. - Disbeliever 23:36:16 02/24/12 (8)
- RE: Well, there you have it. - Fitzcaraldo215 07:20:02 02/25/12 (7)
- RE: Well, there you have it. - Disbeliever 01:14:58 02/26/12 (6)
- Old and hoary story. - Kal Rubinson 08:27:59 02/26/12 (5)
- RE: Old and hoary story. - Disbeliever 23:00:02 02/26/12 (4)
- Tiresome...... - Kal Rubinson 05:53:53 02/27/12 (3)
- RE: Tiresome...... - Disbeliever 10:14:15 02/27/12 (1)
- Not relevant. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 11:46:12 02/27/12 (0)
- RE: Tiresome...... - Fitzcaraldo215 07:03:50 02/27/12 (0)
- RE: Well........... - Fitzcaraldo215 07:01:05 02/24/12 (0)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:06:16 02/21/12 (5)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - stvnharr 12:19:03 02/21/12 (4)
- Disbeliever: Why are your fingers so sticky?? - Kal Rubinson 06:08:47 02/22/12 (1)
- RE: Disbeliever: Why are your fingers so sticky?? - Disbeliever 07:07:35 02/22/12 (0)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - Disbeliever 00:28:49 02/22/12 (1)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - stvnharr 13:50:23 02/23/12 (0)
- RE: I'll agree DSP room EQ is a much more practical approach for most people.... - ted_b 07:22:57 02/19/12 (0)