Good sound and high resolution are not necessarily the same thing.

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Topic - Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - TommyTunes 07:01:43 03/19/09 (211)

Gentleman....you misunderstood me - TommyTunes 16:44:57 03/19/09 (0)

you are listing to fake sound... - MC-SACDs 09:35:37 03/19/09 (61)

If upsampled is fake, then original is at least half-faked - Tony Lauck 12:09:52 03/21/09 (7)

RE: If upsampled is fake, then original is at least half-faked - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:15:58 03/25/09 (2)

RE: If upsampled is fake, then original is at least half-faked - Tony Lauck 09:04:31 03/25/09 (1)

RE: If upsampled is fake, then original is at least half-faked - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:07:31 03/25/09 (0)

Tony I knew what "MC-SACDs" was taking about and you do too. - Teresa 16:53:04 03/21/09 (3)

you did not understand his point... - tunenut 18:33:30 03/21/09 (2)

read my post again the only "guessing" is with UPSAMPLING! not the original sampling! - Teresa 19:06:05 03/21/09 (1)

upsampling cannot recreate the original master sound (24bit/96kHz or DSD) resolution - Hiro 02:47:15 03/22/09 (0)

RE: you are listing to fake sound... - Ben Van Dyk 19:00:31 03/20/09 (0)

RE: you are listing to fake sound... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 16:25:17 03/20/09 (25)

You just do not get it do you? Some of us prefer REAL resolution to artificially created resolution. - Teresa 16:49:05 03/20/09 (24)

RE: You just do not get it do you? Some of us prefer REAL resolution to artificially created resolution. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 01:16:04 03/22/09 (2)

I wasn't talking to him, I was responding to your post, you are the one who does not get it. (nt) - Teresa 03:11:42 03/22/09 (1)

Hokely Dokely. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 07:41:10 03/22/09 (0)

LOL! Teresa, please see my profiles for system equipment. , - TommyTunes 04:58:50 03/21/09 (17)

Tommy did you try the Wadia 581iSE in system 1 or 2? - Teresa 17:09:08 03/21/09 (16)

RE: Tommy did you try the Wadia 581iSE in system 1 or 2? - Interested 17:59:43 03/21/09 (7)

RE: Tommy did you try the Wadia 581iSE in system 1 or 2? - Yoav 19:32:35 03/28/09 (0)

Specs and measurement in room are very different - jazz1 23:23:57 03/21/09 (0)

It's simple those who do not get the full sonic benefit of SACD can still benefit from Surround Sound - Teresa 18:36:05 03/21/09 (4)

RE: It's simple those who do not get the full sonic benefit of SACD can still benefit from Surround Sound - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:46:01 03/25/09 (1)

RE: It's simple those who do not get the full sonic benefit of SACD can still benefit from Surround Sound - Tony Lauck 11:53:30 03/25/09 (0)

RE: You just throw out different concepts at the spur of the moment - navman 20:10:21 03/21/09 (1)

Evidently they don't or I would not have had to respond to "Interested's" questions. - Teresa 21:00:07 03/21/09 (0)

Teresa, you crack me up. BTW it's in system 2 - TommyTunes 17:31:05 03/21/09 (7)

Great with the Maggies, try your AR pre and power in System Two - Teresa 17:43:25 03/21/09 (6)

Evidently you know little about Equipment other than published specs... - TommyTunes 05:05:52 03/22/09 (1)

Tommy sorry to hear your AR's won't drive you Maggies, I also have hard to drive speakers. - Teresa 06:12:17 03/22/09 (0)

RE: Who cares? - navman 20:13:00 03/21/09 (3)

RE: Who cares? - Frank I 06:53:58 03/22/09 (0)

He may be interested in getting the best sound from SACD, clearly you are not - Teresa 21:03:17 03/21/09 (1)

RE: He may be interested in getting the best sound from SACD, clearly you are not - navman 05:41:55 03/22/09 (0)

RE: Do you just make things up as you go along? - navman 19:56:23 03/20/09 (2)

I have said all of this before! Were you not paying attention? Or did you forget? - Teresa 20:03:09 03/20/09 (1)

If you say so. NT - navman 20:07:30 03/20/09 (0)

Would make sense you register before posting - navman 06:07:53 03/20/09 (20)

RE: Would make sense you register before posting - rich121 00:15:48 03/21/09 (0)

I see nothing dogmatic or pompous in "MC-SACDs" posts. - Teresa 16:02:42 03/20/09 (18)

RE: ROFLMAO - navman 16:19:56 03/20/09 (17)

You are clearly and completely the one who is a troll, you have proven this many times in the past! - Teresa 16:41:09 03/20/09 (16)

RE: As I said - navman 19:51:42 03/20/09 (15)

RE: As I said - no such thing as an SACD troll on the Hi-Rez highway, registered or not - Teresa 19:59:54 03/20/09 (14)

RE: Well hopefully they can - navman 20:40:49 03/20/09 (13)

RE: Well hopefully they can - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 18:07:22 03/23/09 (12)

You have that just a wee bit incorrect. - Teresa 01:35:59 03/24/09 (4)

RE: You have that just a wee bit incorrect. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 01:55:52 03/24/09 (3)

No it means exactly what I said "SACD bashing" something you, Chris Redmond find natural. - Teresa 02:18:50 03/24/09 (2)

The problem is that all SACD Players also play CD, therefore..... - TommyTunes 06:08:52 03/24/09 (1)

Some further thoughts - Teresa 15:02:11 03/24/09 (0)

That, my friend - navman 18:57:46 03/23/09 (6)

You too may love Chris Redmond's new "SACD bashing forum", have fun - Teresa 01:41:42 03/24/09 (5)

RE: I would wager a bet - navman 08:52:44 03/24/09 (4)

I post more on SA-CD.net and enjoy it more as it is free of CD trolls like yourself. - Teresa 14:36:40 03/24/09 (3)

"if I am ever made monitor" - tunenut 17:36:44 03/24/09 (0)

RE: I post more on SA-CD.net and enjoy it more as it is free of CD trolls like yourself. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 16:45:56 03/24/09 (0)

RE: Wrong - navman 16:15:46 03/24/09 (0)

If it sounds good what's the problem?? - jazz1 10:01:15 03/19/09 (4)

have you used Photoshop? - MC-SACDs 11:07:47 03/19/09 (2)

of course it can... - tunenut 12:49:24 03/19/09 (1)

Haha....good point - navman 12:19:50 03/20/09 (0)

I don't think you get the point - tunenut 11:00:37 03/19/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - Allen Wright 08:52:21 03/19/09 (139)

I've either owned or had for loan.... - TommyTunes 16:52:01 03/19/09 (4)

Apples and Oranges... - rich121 00:14:16 03/21/09 (0)

Would like to read your comments on Sony 5400. nt - oldmkvi 13:37:49 03/20/09 (0)

RE: I've either owned or had for loan.... - jazz1 23:39:56 03/19/09 (1)

RE: I've either owned or had for loan.... - TommyTunes 05:09:22 03/20/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - Karltoo 11:55:47 03/19/09 (133)

Karl, I agree 100%. (nt) - Allen Wright 02:34:50 03/20/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - jazz1 12:53:11 03/19/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - MC-SACDs 12:51:03 03/19/09 (130)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - Allen Wright 02:33:46 03/20/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - jazz1 23:35:45 03/19/09 (17)

Good sound and high resolution are not necessarily the same thing. - Teresa 20:40:19 03/20/09 (1)

That explains why SACD failed LOL! [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:03:28 03/26/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - MC-SACDs 10:54:47 03/20/09 (14)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - jazz1 20:18:31 03/20/09 (13)

RE: As I have said this is a - navman 20:22:49 03/20/09 (12)

MC-SACDs is not a troll, you are. Why do you get everything backwards? - Teresa 20:26:10 03/20/09 (11)

RE: Habit maybe? - navman 20:30:13 03/20/09 (10)

I don't have the slightest idea? But everything MC-SACDs has said so far makes perfect sense to me. - Teresa 20:44:30 03/20/09 (9)

RE: By all means go ahead and try to get - navman 20:47:27 03/20/09 (8)

I can augment SACD but they haven't invented anything worthy to move on to yet. - Teresa 02:41:09 03/21/09 (1)

RE: I can augment SACD but they haven't invented anything worthy to move on to yet. - navman 12:08:22 03/21/09 (0)

RE: By all means go ahead and try to get - Hiro 01:50:20 03/21/09 (5)

RE: By all means go ahead and try to get - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 07:50:13 03/22/09 (4)

I'm sure he means the second definition not the first in which case there's room for billions! - Teresa 08:53:48 03/23/09 (1)

RE: I'm sure he means the second definition not the first in which case there's room for billions! - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:50:52 03/23/09 (0)

Or maybe - navman 19:02:35 03/22/09 (1)

I agree. Probably even wear the same....socks? [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 04:49:43 03/25/09 (0)

RE: Wadia 581iSE, the best sounding SACD player I've heard but.... - Interested 23:27:00 03/19/09 (109)

How many of those 4 SACDs were DSD recorded using excellent full range microphones in a REAL acoustical space? - Teresa 02:13:13 03/20/09 (108)

Hilarious!! - Sordidman 13:01:06 03/20/09 (4)

By your own admission you like Rock and not Classical and I only know of one DSD recorded Rock SACD - Teresa 16:59:50 03/20/09 (3)

RE: By your own admission you like Rock and not Classical and I only know of one DSD recorded Rock SACD - Interested 19:41:25 03/20/09 (2)

the only possible answer is "self delusion" you will of course someday realize how bad CDs sound - Teresa 20:06:00 03/20/09 (1)

RE: the only possible answer is "self delusion" you will of course someday realize how bad CDs sound - Interested 11:57:28 03/21/09 (0)

"gigantic" is relative - tunenut 11:32:06 03/20/09 (14)

Personally I am NOT impressed with the sonics of the MTT's Mahler SACDs and have spoken out against them - Teresa 16:35:36 03/20/09 (1)

RE: Personally I am NOT impressed with the sonics of the MTT's Mahler SACDs and have spoken out against them - MC-SACDs 19:58:46 03/22/09 (0)

RE: "gigantic" is relative - MC-SACDs 15:37:00 03/20/09 (11)

LOL - navman 16:18:33 03/20/09 (10)

I've been thinking about something for a very long time - Teresa 16:41:30 03/23/09 (1)

RE: Really? - navman 08:02:49 03/24/09 (0)

You LOL at me? - MC-SACDs 20:26:08 03/22/09 (7)

LOL - navman 13:48:20 03/23/09 (6)

You sure choose weird things to laugh it - Teresa 16:31:32 03/23/09 (5)

Sounding somewhat - navman 18:59:03 03/23/09 (4)

No way! You clearly are not happy here, perhaps you would be happier posting somewhere else? - Teresa 01:48:54 03/24/09 (3)

RE: I post in other places - navman 04:42:52 03/24/09 (2)

Navman the problem is you and other CD trolls. - Teresa 15:11:40 03/24/09 (1)

Nonsense - navman 16:16:16 03/24/09 (0)

congrats ... - TBone 11:13:11 03/20/09 (1)

You then HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT SACD and high resolution digital can do! - Teresa 16:07:13 03/20/09 (0)

Sony's brochure was a piece of - navman 07:01:42 03/20/09 (2)

10 years of listening has proven Sony's goals and aims stated in their brochure to be 100% true IMHO! - Teresa 17:07:53 03/20/09 (1)

RE: Marketing ........................................................ - navman 19:50:01 03/20/09 (0)

It really doesn' matter if Rock and Pop record in DSD... - TommyTunes 05:35:08 03/20/09 (51)

RE: It really doesn' matter if Rock and Pop record in DSD... - Teresa 17:26:47 03/20/09 (0)

RE: It really doesn' matter if Rock and Pop record in DSD... - Hiro 10:13:49 03/20/09 (48)

RE: My dear kekel from teh parallell universe. - navman 10:46:18 03/20/09 (47)

Whatever happen's please remain calm!! - jazz1 20:24:51 03/20/09 (1)

LOL............................. - navman 20:45:05 03/20/09 (0)

RE: My dear kekel from teh parallell universe. - Hiro 13:06:17 03/20/09 (44)

RE: My dear kekel from teh parallell universe. - Interested 13:48:47 03/20/09 (19)

I totally disagree, record companies MUST spend the money for an SACD layer or they will die! - Teresa 17:49:47 03/20/09 (5)

RE: I totally disagree, record companies MUST spend the money for an SACD layer or they will die! - Interested 19:38:16 03/20/09 (4)

no, it is you who are totally and completely deluded. - Hiro 02:45:20 03/21/09 (0)

RE: I totally disagree, record companies MUST spend the money for an SACD layer or they will die! - Ben Van Dyk 20:56:42 03/20/09 (0)

If the SACD layer was added to all CDs, the majority of the public will buy - Teresa 20:24:03 03/20/09 (1)

RE: If the SACD layer was added to all CDs, the majority of the public will buy - Interested 05:13:28 03/21/09 (0)

RE: My dear kekel from teh parallell universe. - Hiro 14:27:39 03/20/09 (12)

I beg to differ. - navman 14:35:35 03/20/09 (11)

RE: I beg to differ. - Hiro 14:48:01 03/20/09 (4)

RE: I beg to differ. - navman 16:17:05 03/20/09 (3)

RE: I beg to differ. - Hiro 16:34:24 03/20/09 (2)

RE: I beg to differ. - Tony Lauck 17:54:51 03/20/09 (1)

At least my view is that - navman 20:19:40 03/20/09 (0)

RE: I beg to differ. - Hiro 14:42:56 03/20/09 (5)

Same with 4-5Gigs - navman 16:15:17 03/20/09 (4)

4,7GB (SACD) is enough for high resolution music - Hiro 16:28:59 03/20/09 (3)

RE: Limiting. - navman 19:54:43 03/20/09 (2)

RE: Limiting. - Hiro 02:08:46 03/21/09 (1)

Really? - navman 04:33:23 03/21/09 (0)

BTW - navman 13:13:16 03/20/09 (23)

RE: BTW - Teresa 18:01:01 03/20/09 (1)

Maybe I should sell you all of mines - navman 19:58:21 03/20/09 (0)

RE: BTW - Hiro 13:34:43 03/20/09 (20)

Hiro....... could you ost up your system? - navman 20:25:30 03/20/09 (7)

RE: Hiro....... could you ost up your system? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:02:01 03/22/09 (6)

I am sure I could guess at their systems. - navman 19:15:08 03/23/09 (5)

MC-SACDs is not a troll, you are. You do know this forum is about SACD software and hardware don't you? - Teresa 02:03:49 03/24/09 (4)

RE: MC-SACDs is not a troll, you are. You do know this forum is about SACD software and hardware don't you? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 02:15:09 03/24/09 (3)

You are making NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, Mr. Troll. - Teresa 02:25:12 03/24/09 (2)

Hearing vs. Claiming to hear - Tony Lauck 08:20:27 03/24/09 (0)

RE: You are making NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, Mr. Troll. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:12:27 03/24/09 (0)

Actually if you pay attention - navman 13:59:34 03/20/09 (11)

Oxymoron alert: There is no such thing as an "SACD troll" on the Hi-Rez Highway. - Teresa 17:55:37 03/20/09 (10)

RE: haha - navman 19:59:38 03/20/09 (9)

It is true that SACD isn't the only Hi-Rez but the Hi-Rez Highway is ONLY for SACDs after the divide. - Teresa 01:09:13 03/21/09 (8)

RE: Since you are so fond of repeating yourself, let me indulge too........ - navman 13:50:10 03/23/09 (7)

You still do not understand! The ONLY Hi-Rez on the Hi-Rez Highway is SACD! - Teresa 16:28:06 03/23/09 (6)

RE: LOL - navman 19:12:41 03/23/09 (5)

Mr. Troll everything you said untrue of course! - Teresa 03:22:27 03/24/09 (4)

Teresa, you need to take on another issue, why are we limited to 2.8MKz SACD the standard needs to be changed - TommyTunes 06:30:34 03/24/09 (2)

I was a champion of "Super DVD" which used 5.6MKz DSD - Teresa 15:39:25 03/24/09 (0)

RE: +1 - navman 08:09:40 03/24/09 (0)

RE: Ms. Troll everything you said untrue of course! - navman 04:41:22 03/24/09 (0)

RE: It really doesn' matter if Rock and Pop record in DSD... - navman 06:55:43 03/20/09 (0)

RE: How many of those 4 SACDs were DSD recorded using excellent full range microphones in a REAL acoustical sp - Interested 03:14:42 03/20/09 (0)

RE: How many of those 4 SACDs were DSD recorded using excellent full range microphones in a REAL acoustical space? - Allen Wright 02:37:22 03/20/09 (29)

Interesting Allen, I know a lot of musical instrument overtones extend beyond 100kHz - Teresa 17:34:45 03/21/09 (1)

RE: Interesting Allen, I know a lot of musical instrument overtones extend beyond 100kHz - Allen Wright 03:49:01 03/22/09 (0)

RE: How many of those 4 SACDs were DSD recorded using excellent full range microphones in a REAL acoustical sp - Interested 02:57:17 03/20/09 (26)

Not all? - Allen Wright 04:17:27 03/21/09 (25)

RE: Not all? - Interested 01:12:17 03/22/09 (24)

RE: Not all? - MC-SACDs 12:35:58 03/23/09 (23)

RE: Not all? - navman 14:42:08 03/23/09 (22)

RE: Not all? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 02:21:43 03/24/09 (3)

I have known of and realized the benefit of ultrasonic frequencies for over 25 years. - Teresa 04:23:35 03/24/09 (0)

OK I'm getting tired of you knocking my SACD player to other people which is very childish BTW - Teresa 03:50:04 03/24/09 (1)

RE: OK I'm getting tired of you knocking my SACD player to other people which is very childish BTW - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:03:00 03/24/09 (0)

here is,, to get yourself a start of education... - MC-SACDs 14:58:49 03/23/09 (17)

wasted effort, I gave up trying to teach Navman anything, especially ultrasonic theory. - Teresa 17:02:17 03/23/09 (16)

"Super sonic"? Wouldn't that cause a sonic boom? So good of you to educate us.....[nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:15:52 03/26/09 (0)

Sounds that cannot be heard? - Tony Lauck 10:20:17 03/24/09 (8)

RE: Sounds that cannot be heard? - navman 11:02:47 03/24/09 (0)

RE: Sounds that cannot be heard? - MC-SACDs 10:44:52 03/24/09 (6)

what a bunch of hokum - tunenut 11:30:21 03/25/09 (0)

Tests? - Tony Lauck 12:15:15 03/24/09 (1)

RE: Tests? - MC-SACDs 13:17:44 03/24/09 (0)

So in essence - navman 11:11:56 03/24/09 (2)

you are truly mad man, you need a help..... - MC-SACDs 11:21:37 03/24/09 (1)

LOL - navman 12:52:06 03/24/09 (0)

Unregistered Troll/sockpuppet - your opinion is immaterial. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:35:06 03/24/09 (0)

RE: wasted effort, I gave up trying to teach Navman anything, especially ultrasonic theory. - navman 08:13:19 03/24/09 (1)

I'm speaking of years back, this is all a rerun but you have more SACD lovers to attack this time. - Teresa 15:50:30 03/24/09 (0)

RE: wasted effort, I gave up trying to teach Navman anything, especially ultrasonic theory. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 17:35:21 03/23/09 (2)

RE: wasted effort, I gave up trying to teach Navman anything, especially ultrasonic theory. - MC-SACDs 07:02:37 03/24/09 (1)

RE: LOL - navman 08:49:30 03/24/09 (0)

Great post and great analogy! (;-) nt - Teresa 18:08:33 03/19/09 (0)

When Teresa reads this, TAKE COVER - INCOMING!!!!! [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:39:07 03/19/09 (7)

I didn't respond to TommyTunes post as you predicted as I have no problem with anyone enjoying CDs, - Teresa 18:23:44 03/20/09 (1)

RE: I didn't respond to TommyTunes post as you predicted as I have no problem with anyone enjoying CDs, - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 17:52:12 03/24/09 (0)

You should put out stock market tips.. - tunenut 17:57:24 03/20/09 (2)

He didn't call it, as I didn't respond to TommyTunes post but jumped in to defend MC-SACDs against the trolls - Teresa 19:35:19 03/20/09 (1)

he called it! - tunenut 19:45:52 03/20/09 (0)

RE: LOL and Hiro resurfaced - navman 10:51:56 03/20/09 (0)

LOL - TommyTunes 16:53:15 03/19/09 (0)

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Good sound and high resolution are not necessarily the same thing. - Teresa 20:40:19 03/20/09 (1)

That explains why SACD failed LOL! [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:03:28 03/26/09 (0)

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