In Reply to: Hey, the CD layer of DualDiscs are crap!!! posted by Christine Tham on August 3, 2005 at 05:08:46:
Christine,It may indeed be copy protection and/or the firmware in your drive.
"All three of my dualdiscs ripped with errors at high speed"
This is of no surprise at all. I don't know how new you are to ripping, but no one rips at high speed with expecting the BER to increase. High speed errors are much more common than 1X speed errors.
When you listen to the CD layer do you hear any audible artifacts?
If you can play the CD and everything sounds fine, but then you go to rip the track and everything goes to hell, the problem is with your equipment. Sure there could defintely be errors that you don't hear during regular playback, but if they are audible from ripping then you know that the ripping is the problem.
Manufacturers are constantly researching ways to thwart piracy. Just saying that the typical symptoms aren't present during track extraction really isn't conclusive, is it? Newer technologies from companies like Suncomm thwart piracy, but don't exhibit the behaviors you mentioned.
Do you remember Copy II Plus?
-AudioMiner
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Follow Ups
- I disagree. - AudioMiner 18:13:44 08/03/05 (35)
- Re: I disagree. - ILoveJazz 20:52:46 08/03/05 (3)
- there are quite a few utilities ... - Christine Tham 21:00:00 08/03/05 (2)
- Re: there are quite a few utilities ... - ILoveJazz 21:54:09 08/03/05 (1)
- Re: there are quite a few utilities ... - Christine Tham 22:09:47 08/03/05 (0)
- i think you need to understand ... - Christine Tham 18:29:40 08/03/05 (30)
- I understand just fine. Enough with the shouting. - AudioMiner 20:48:14 08/03/05 (21)
- what would be really nice is .. - Christine Tham 21:13:15 08/03/05 (19)
- No. I'm allowed to disagree with you and I still do. - AudioMiner 22:17:45 08/03/05 (18)
- no one is stopping you from disagreeing or voicing an opinion, least of all myself - Christine Tham 22:28:08 08/03/05 (17)
- Re: no one is stopping you from disagreeing or voicing an opinion, least of all myself - AudioMiner 08:33:42 08/06/05 (4)
- truly pathetic - Christine Tham 15:40:18 08/06/05 (3)
- Re: truly pathetic - Martin419 11:14:16 08/07/05 (2)
- Re: truly pathetic - Christine Tham 14:54:10 08/07/05 (1)
- OK, OK . . . - Martin419 03:53:36 08/08/05 (0)
- It's called the "Instant PhD", Teresa... - Michi 00:42:32 08/04/05 (11)
- it's even funnier when it goes something like this ... - Christine Tham 01:46:10 08/04/05 (10)
- Re: it's even funnier when it goes something like this ... - AudioMiner 18:14:31 08/05/05 (9)
- there's only one difference ... - Christine Tham 20:06:45 08/05/05 (8)
- Re: there's only one difference ... - AudioMiner 08:47:12 08/06/05 (3)
- Re: there's only one difference ... - Christine Tham 15:14:38 08/06/05 (2)
- It's accessible via your AA profile . . . - Martin419 10:45:16 08/07/05 (1)
- Martin, Martin, Martin, once again you've completely missed the point ... - Christine Tham 15:25:29 08/07/05 (0)
- and by the way, has anyone ever told you ... - Christine Tham 21:09:02 08/05/05 (3)
- I think you are over-reacting here! . . . - Martin419 08:33:49 08/06/05 (2)
- BTW ... - Christine Tham 15:25:50 08/06/05 (0)
- No - I don't think so - Christine Tham 14:59:32 08/06/05 (0)
- It reads to me like an accurate report on the on so-called CD side of a DualDisc. - Teresa 21:02:13 08/03/05 (0)
- I agree this situation sucks... - andy_c 18:53:09 08/03/05 (7)
- Re: I agree this situation sucks... - Christine Tham 20:54:54 08/03/05 (6)
- Re: I agree this situation sucks... - andy_c 21:08:34 08/03/05 (5)
- what read method are you using? - Christine Tham 21:21:29 08/03/05 (4)
- Re: what read method are you using? - andy_c 21:54:52 08/03/05 (3)
- Re: what read method are you using? - Christine Tham 22:04:07 08/03/05 (2)
- Using the autodetect (MMC 1) - andy_c 18:30:52 08/04/05 (1)
- thanks - Christine Tham 19:36:37 08/04/05 (0)