In Reply to: Beauty vs.Performance..or Both posted by mark.korda@myfairpoint.net on July 15, 2024 at 10:38:09:
It was reviewed by Martin Colloms, he apparently did not get a response dip from 100-800 Hz in his measurements like John Atkinson did. And he really liked the speakers subjectively. So again, we have a disparity between measurements and the subjective review, which indicates to me that flat frequency response is not make or break for a speaker. In fact, when he measures this type of up and down response, JA often makes the comment (as in this case) that the perceived sound quality will "depend on which frequency region the listener takes as a reference..." That never seems to translate to what the reviewer reports. When I'm listening to music, I don't think, "Well, what frequency region am I taking as reference on this album?" Either I'm digging it or I'm not, and Martin Colloms was digging it. I've had this debate with others here before. I believe measurements have their place, but too many folks are dismissing components if JA's measurements sidebar doesn't end with "All in all, this component's measured performance indicates excellent engineering."
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Follow Ups
- RE: The reviewer also did measurements... - Ladok 08:23:46 07/17/24 (31)
- That dip is . . . not really a dip - Doug Schneider 11:58:48 07/18/24 (10)
- He also acknowledges - E-Stat 16:39:02 07/19/24 (7)
- RE: He also acknowledges - Doug Schneider 17:24:54 07/19/24 (6)
- RE: He also acknowledges - highendfan 18:57:30 08/01/24 (2)
- Diptyque - Doug Schneider 19:17:03 08/05/24 (1)
- RE: Diptyque - highendfan 20:23:57 08/05/24 (0)
- One of many gaps - E-Stat 08:11:50 07/24/24 (2)
- RE: One of many gaps - Doug Schneider 12:38:40 07/24/24 (1)
- What remains relevant with Toole - E-Stat 13:02:06 07/24/24 (0)
- RE: That dip is . . . not really a dip - mark.korda@myfairpoint.net 08:58:13 07/19/24 (1)
- RE: That dip is . . . not really a dip - Doug Schneider 09:10:35 07/19/24 (0)
- Reviewer/measurements did agree... - Ladok 09:22:12 07/17/24 (19)
- About that bass... - Doug Schneider 22:19:36 07/18/24 (18)
- RE: About that bass... - highendfan 18:51:25 08/01/24 (0)
- An added complication is the non-linearity of the "Phenomenon of the 'Weak Fundamental' " - John Marks 07:56:50 07/21/24 (16)
- You can guesstimate BSC pretty closely without fancy software - Brian H P 13:13:39 07/22/24 (3)
- That seems about right... - Doug Schneider 15:31:55 07/22/24 (2)
- Good explanation of BSC and comp circuit calculators HERE - Brian H P 16:03:16 07/22/24 (1)
- RE: Good explanation of BSC and comp circuit calculators HERE - Doug Schneider 16:31:42 07/22/24 (0)
- That's completely wrong... - Doug Schneider 12:58:13 07/21/24 (6)
- RE: That's completely wrong... - tomservo 13:42:05 07/23/24 (1)
- RE: That's completely wrong... - Doug Schneider 19:17:47 07/24/24 (0)
- That was NOT the fundamental premise!!! - John Marks 15:27:05 07/21/24 (3)
- Not sure where you got this idea... - Doug Schneider 17:12:13 07/21/24 (2)
- Whoa - John Marks 18:15:47 07/21/24 (1)
- Nope, Didn't... - Doug Schneider 18:43:04 07/21/24 (0)
- RE: An added complication is the non-linearity of the "Phenomenon of the 'Weak Fundamental' " - John Atkinson 10:09:48 07/21/24 (4)
- "However, this reduces sensitivity." Aye, there's the rub! - John Marks 12:54:44 07/21/24 (3)
- Are you sure you understand any of it? - Doug Schneider 20:03:24 07/21/24 (0)
- Not quite understanding sensitivity? - Doug Schneider 18:49:22 07/21/24 (0)
- The reason is... - Doug Schneider 13:03:21 07/21/24 (0)