In Reply to: RE: Stereophile and MQA... posted by Mel on August 16, 2017 at 13:34:23:
MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality AND a reduction if file size/streaming. How it all works is beyond most, if not all, including me.
Some have produced critiques of how they think it works and pointed out possible/probable issues. Some have measured existing MQA equipment but I've seen no real conclusions beyond the usual subjective/objective arguments.
Manufacturers who create their own digital filtering are vocally against MQA because it competes directly with their unique selling point so take their opinions with appropriate seasoning.
I don't know what the overall reviewer consensus is, but it is clear that all the Stereophile reviewers are very positive. So if you are a subjectivist you'll see MQA as a good thing. If you are a conspiracist then you'll see press collusion.
And then there's Issak. 'Extremely adept' is not a phrase I associate with him after reading many of his posts, though 'ferret' may be more apt. He is dogged and has a real bee-in-his-bonnet over MQA. He accentuates any non-positive info he can find but he is so over-the-top and gives and takes offense too easily to be taken seriously.
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- A brief summary - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 18:12:55 08/17/17 (144)
- That's One Way to Look At It. - Charles Hansen 00:26:48 08/22/17 (0)
- A further summary - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 16:51:59 08/21/17 (7)
- Totally disagree with your point #2 - Charles Hansen 20:31:02 08/21/17 (3)
- RE: Totally disagree with your point #2 - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 17:34:43 08/24/17 (2)
- RE: Totally disagree with your point #2 - Charles Hansen 22:16:16 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: Totally disagree with your point #2 - Doug Schneider 20:03:56 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: A further summary - Michael Lavorgna 17:04:08 08/21/17 (2)
- RE: A further summary - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 17:49:52 08/24/17 (1)
- RE: A further summary - Michael Lavorgna 18:49:40 08/24/17 (0)
- "...it is clear that all the Stereophile reviewers are very positive"... - Steve O 21:31:37 08/17/17 (5)
- RE: "...it is clear that all the Stereophile reviewers are very positive"... - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 12:34:35 08/18/17 (2)
- It's not clear to me that MQA necessarily results in "better" sound... - Steve O 13:08:32 08/18/17 (1)
- RE: It's not clear to me that MQA necessarily results in "better" sound... - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 13:55:43 08/18/17 (0)
- It's also doubtful that _all_ the Stereophile reviewers are very positive ... - DAP 05:43:43 08/18/17 (1)
- RE: It's also doubtful that _all_ the Stereophile reviewers are very positive ... - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 12:36:23 08/18/17 (0)
- "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - DAP 20:54:29 08/17/17 (128)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - John Atkinson 16:13:22 08/18/17 (49)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - rt66indierock 15:57:45 08/21/17 (5)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - John Atkinson 11:07:41 08/22/17 (2)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - rt66indierock 09:08:12 08/24/17 (1)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - John Atkinson 09:52:59 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - ahendler 20:02:51 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - Charles Hansen 20:33:18 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - DAP 03:51:50 08/19/17 (41)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - John Atkinson 04:09:54 08/19/17 (40)
- Thanks nt - DAP 16:54:47 08/19/17 (0)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - Doug Schneider 07:29:00 08/19/17 (38)
- It doesn't exist if Doug hasn't heard it? - Michael Lavorgna 17:44:01 08/19/17 (37)
- Have you heard MQA. If so, compared to what? nt - Rick W 19:38:38 08/19/17 (15)
- There's this - DAP 09:10:10 08/20/17 (1)
- Thanks. I'm 1/2 way thru, finish reading later. nt - Rick W 16:50:08 08/20/17 (0)
- I've been writing about MQA... - Michael Lavorgna 21:17:12 08/19/17 (12)
- RE: I've been writing about MQA...Not for - fmak 09:18:14 08/22/17 (5)
- I think "promoting" is the wrong word - DAP 10:06:44 08/22/17 (3)
- RE: I think "promoting" is the wrong word - ahendler 12:50:27 08/23/17 (1)
- RE: I think "promoting" is the wrong word - Charles Hansen 13:29:57 08/23/17 (0)
- RE: I think "promoting" is the wrong word - why not? - fmak 13:30:56 08/22/17 (0)
- RE: I've been writing about MQA...Not for - Michael Lavorgna 09:32:22 08/22/17 (0)
- I can see why nobofy likes you - 4everyoung 22:17:12 08/19/17 (5)
- LOL! - mkuller 14:32:15 08/20/17 (3)
- Although it seems Michael likes Sue better than Doug - DAP 19:12:47 08/20/17 (2)
- Is this high school? - mkuller 20:03:37 08/20/17 (1)
- Or perhaps another episode of "As the Table Turns" nt - DAP 21:07:26 08/20/17 (0)
- Clearly - Michael Lavorgna 00:00:39 08/20/17 (0)
- RE: It doesn't exist if Doug hasn't heard it? - Doug Schneider 17:49:36 08/19/17 (20)
- Oh please. - Michael Lavorgna 17:51:38 08/19/17 (19)
- RE: Oh please - You need to desist - fmak 13:25:01 08/22/17 (14)
- RE: Oh please - You need to desist - Michael Lavorgna 13:31:58 08/22/17 (13)
- RE: Oh please - You need to desist and respect - fmak 23:37:48 08/22/17 (12)
- Do you see the irony, Fred? - Michael Lavorgna 01:33:31 08/23/17 (11)
- this is a forum and I'm really not a fan - fmak 10:36:39 08/23/17 (10)
- The real truth about MQA - Michael Lavorgna 11:18:05 08/23/17 (9)
- RE: The real truth about MQA - fmak 00:51:41 08/24/17 (1)
- Here's the answer, Fred. - Michael Lavorgna 06:45:41 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: The real truth about MQA - ahendler 12:53:13 08/23/17 (0)
- Why the snark? - Beetlemania 11:50:33 08/23/17 (5)
- It's never been done - ML was the closest - Charles Hansen 14:26:57 08/23/17 (4)
- RE: It's never been done - ML was the closest - Michael Lavorgna 06:33:30 08/24/17 (3)
- RE: It's never been done - ML was the closest - Charles Hansen 14:33:18 08/24/17 (2)
- RE: It's never been done - ML was the closest - Michael Lavorgna 15:23:56 08/24/17 (1)
- RE: It's never been done - ML was the closest - Charles Hansen 23:14:26 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: Oh please. - Doug Schneider 17:54:36 08/19/17 (3)
- Methinks Michael enjoys the occasional libation.... - Ivan303 19:31:49 08/19/17 (2)
- RE: Methinks Michael enjoys the occasional libation.... - fmak 13:43:01 08/23/17 (0)
- Methinks... - Michael Lavorgna 21:14:27 08/19/17 (0)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - Doug Schneider 17:38:40 08/18/17 (0)
- On Comparisons... - Doug Schneider 14:07:16 08/18/17 (75)
- I'm with you, Doug - 4everyoung 14:54:07 08/19/17 (74)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - John Atkinson 06:03:52 08/20/17 (72)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - 4everyoung 09:04:27 08/20/17 (70)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - John Atkinson 09:45:16 08/20/17 (68)
- Yahbut... - Charles Hansen 14:25:32 08/20/17 (66)
- RE: Yahbut... - Doug Schneider 07:24:29 08/21/17 (62)
- Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 08:10:38 08/21/17 (58)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 09:18:10 08/21/17 (57)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 09:28:26 08/21/17 (56)
- RE: Tidal - John Atkinson 10:59:50 08/21/17 (16)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 11:17:21 08/21/17 (15)
- Uhm.. - Charles Hansen 11:32:06 08/21/17 (14)
- RE: Uhm.. - ahendler 20:18:38 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: Uhm.. - Charles Hansen 20:47:09 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Uhm.. - Michael Lavorgna 11:43:18 08/21/17 (11)
- RE: Uhm.. - Charles Hansen 12:09:51 08/21/17 (10)
- I don't even like streaming - fmak 10:43:42 08/23/17 (2)
- RE: I don't even like streaming - ahendler 12:55:37 08/23/17 (1)
- RE: I don't even like streaming - fmak 13:40:46 08/23/17 (0)
- RE: Uhm.. - ahendler 20:23:08 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: Uhm.. - Charles Hansen 20:52:33 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Uhm.. - Michael Lavorgna 12:20:52 08/21/17 (4)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 09:36:35 08/21/17 (38)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 09:43:10 08/21/17 (37)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 09:49:38 08/21/17 (36)
- RE: Tidal - ahendler 20:35:07 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 09:59:28 08/21/17 (34)
- Do I understand this correctly? - Rick W 10:30:30 08/21/17 (16)
- RE: Do I understand this correctly? - Michael Lavorgna 10:42:06 08/21/17 (15)
- Ok, thanks for the info. nt - Rick W 11:31:08 08/21/17 (0)
- At least one other big problem with this - Charles Hansen 11:25:18 08/21/17 (13)
- RE: At least one other big problem with this - ahendler 20:42:03 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: At least one other big problem with this - Charles Hansen 21:03:55 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: At least one other big problem with this - Michael Lavorgna 11:29:42 08/21/17 (10)
- Wake up, please - Charles Hansen 11:52:07 08/21/17 (9)
- RE: Wake up, please - ahendler 20:44:52 08/21/17 (0)
- I'll also remind you , Charley... - Michael Lavorgna 12:15:18 08/21/17 (2)
- remind you - fmak 09:02:13 08/24/17 (1)
- I give up - on you - Michael Lavorgna 09:04:18 08/24/17 (0)
- RE: Wake up, please - Doug Schneider 11:59:54 08/21/17 (3)
- RE: Wake up, please - MIchael Lavorgna 14:13:23 08/21/17 (2)
- RE: Wake up, please - Doug Schneider 18:36:00 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: Wake up, please - Michael Lavorgna 08:02:04 08/22/17 (0)
- RE: Wake up, please - Michael Lavorgna 11:54:26 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 10:05:08 08/21/17 (16)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 10:10:20 08/21/17 (15)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 10:25:30 08/21/17 (14)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 10:35:52 08/21/17 (13)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 10:39:14 08/21/17 (12)
- " if you haven't look outside your own space" - DAP 15:09:01 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: " if you haven't look outside your own space" - Doug Schneider 19:33:34 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 10:52:00 08/21/17 (9)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 11:16:59 08/21/17 (8)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 11:18:59 08/21/17 (7)
- RE: Tidal - Doug Schneider 11:27:05 08/21/17 (6)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 14:18:56 08/21/17 (5)
- RE: Tidal - rt66indierock 16:05:10 08/21/17 (4)
- Here you go chief - Michael Lavorgna 16:17:42 08/21/17 (0)
- RE: Tidal - Michael Lavorgna 16:10:06 08/21/17 (2)
- RE: Tidal - rt66indierock 18:13:58 08/21/17 (1)
- Keeping score? - Michael Lavorgna 22:57:29 08/21/17 (0)
- Couldn't SoundStage do those comparisons as well? nt - DAP 07:40:33 08/21/17 (2)
- Definitely, but... - Doug Schneider 09:22:00 08/21/17 (1)
- RE: Definitely, but... - fmak 09:09:12 08/24/17 (0)
- Ooh I know! - Michael Lavorgna 15:32:27 08/20/17 (2)
- How enlightening. nt - Rick W 15:53:34 08/20/17 (1)
- Thank You - Michael Lavorgna 15:54:50 08/20/17 (0)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - Doug Schneider 09:56:38 08/20/17 (0)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - Doug Schneider 09:07:36 08/20/17 (0)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - Doug Schneider 08:53:42 08/20/17 (0)
- RE: I'm with you, Doug - Doug Schneider 15:24:35 08/19/17 (0)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 12:31:23 08/18/17 (1)
- RE: "MQA is presented as an improvement in sound quality" - Charles Hansen 14:45:44 08/24/17 (0)