In Reply to: RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... posted by Michael Lavorgna on October 31, 2016 at 06:16:51:
Hi Michael,Yes, I remember you there, but you're talking specifically about comparisons and, sorry, I brought it up to various people, probably you, that no valid comparisons were done -- and as far as I could tell, they weren't. That's why I asked Bob Stuart to do one -- and he wouldn't.
These non-comparison demos were so important to me that I brought Brent Butterworth along to judge for himself, and he wrote the article below.
So as I said, this conversation about you pointing out valid comparisons -- sorry, didn't occur. In fact, it couldn't have occurred as there were none! I mean, it's well known that there hasn't been proper comparisons done. Even when I talked on the phone to Bob Stuart, he told me they had no interest in doing them. So how could've they been done.
Now, I did have the thought just a few minutes ago that it is possible that you don't know what a valid comparison would be like -- that it isn't simply picking a CD off the shelf and comparing it to some new file being played. Or that it isn't just taking someone's word for it who said, "oh, it's better." Maybe that's it.
Just for the record, valid comparisons would have very careful and transparent authentication as to what you're listening to as source files and then going from there (there'd have to be some hardware considerations too). What a comparison ISN'T is simply playing a version of "Riders On the Storm" and not knowing where it came from and having everyone simply go "oh, wow, that's the best I've ever heard."
Doug Schneider
SoundStage!
Edits: 10/31/16
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- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Doug Schneider 06:26:34 10/31/16 (26)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Michael Lavorgna 06:35:24 10/31/16 (25)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Doug Schneider 06:51:57 10/31/16 (24)
- Another example-This is your "comparison''? - fmak 07:53:16 10/31/16 (14)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - Mercman 08:19:29 10/31/16 (7)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - fmak 08:29:48 11/02/16 (6)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - Michael Lavorgna 10:55:30 11/02/16 (0)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - Mercman 10:28:55 11/02/16 (4)
- I am reviewing the review - fmak 12:30:35 11/02/16 (3)
- RE: I am reviewing the review - Michael Lavorgna 12:59:51 11/02/16 (0)
- RE: I am reviewing the review - Mercman 12:38:54 11/02/16 (1)
- RE: I am reviewing the review - fmak 12:14:28 11/03/16 (0)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - Michael Lavorgna 08:13:30 10/31/16 (0)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - Doug Schneider 07:54:48 10/31/16 (4)
- RE: Another example-This is your "comparison''? - fmak 09:28:42 10/31/16 (3)
- You can't please everyone, Fred. - Michael Lavorgna 10:21:17 10/31/16 (2)
- RE: You can't please everyone, Fred. -well - fmak 22:53:22 10/31/16 (1)
- RE: You can't please everyone, Fred. -well - Michael Lavorgna 04:19:17 11/01/16 (0)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Michael Lavorgna 07:29:08 10/31/16 (8)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - John Atkinson 09:04:15 10/31/16 (5)
- Passive-aggressive behavior - Michael Lavorgna 15:44:08 10/31/16 (2)
- aggressive behavior - fmak 05:05:57 11/01/16 (1)
- I am here... - Michael Lavorgna 07:48:20 11/01/16 (0)
- About Comparisons... - Doug Schneider 10:18:22 10/31/16 (0)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Doug Schneider 10:11:04 10/31/16 (0)
- RE: Dreaming in Technicolor... - Doug Schneider 07:45:15 10/31/16 (1)
- Show Report v Review - Michael Lavorgna 07:49:46 10/31/16 (0)