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In Reply to: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread posted by rebbi on December 14, 2014 at 06:18:15:
Profuse and humble thanks for starting this thread!
The conclusions you reach, in re: the review in question, mirror our own. We really don't think that we got a fair shake - and are heartened that other AA members agree.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - rebbi 06:18:15 12/14/14 (193)
- And now you can enjoy this (the clue) review thread over on Audiiogon: - rebbi 10:20:13 01/09/15 (1)
- RE: And now you can enjoy this (the clue) review thread over on Audiiogon: - BubbaMike 18:10:31 01/27/15 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - fantja 08:29:13 12/31/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - John Atkinson 16:09:45 12/30/14 (1)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - AmanteDiMusica 13:50:09 01/27/15 (0)
- The "Quick Start Installation Guide"... - genungo 01:21:53 12/29/14 (9)
- RE: The "Quick Start Installation Guide"... - zendada@w-link.net 13:58:07 12/29/14 (8)
- RE: The "Quick Start Installation Guide"... - genungo 15:14:55 12/29/14 (7)
- RE: The "Quick Start Installation Guide"... - Tony Lauck 17:14:02 12/29/14 (6)
- RE: "...more like a month..." - genungo 17:33:58 12/29/14 (5)
- RE: "...more like a month..." - Bill the K 20:04:59 12/30/14 (4)
- RE: "After all the fiddling and setup, my maid comes..." - genungo 22:28:20 12/30/14 (3)
- RE: "After all the fiddling and setup, my maid comes..." - Bill the K 00:05:19 12/31/14 (2)
- RE: "After all the fiddling and setup, my maid comes..." - genungo 00:12:21 12/31/14 (1)
- RE: "After all the fiddling and setup, my maid comes..." - Bill the K 05:37:41 12/31/14 (0)
- Comments From a Happy Owner - The Dill 12:57:46 12/22/14 (24)
- RE: Comments From a Happy Owner - rebbi 14:52:45 12/28/14 (1)
- RE: Comments From a Happy Owner - The Dill 08:57:15 12/29/14 (0)
- RE: Comments From a Happy Owner - BubbaMike 21:09:39 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Comments From a Happy Owner - Bill the K 03:42:20 12/25/14 (0)
- How close is the left speaker to the rack? - volunteer 07:34:01 12/23/14 (18)
- RE: How close is the left speaker to the rack? - The Dill 13:13:45 01/04/15 (2)
- Now..... - volunteer 13:21:18 01/04/15 (1)
- RE: Now..... - The Dill 13:38:51 01/04/15 (0)
- RE: How close is the left speaker to the rack? - The Dill 07:54:44 12/23/14 (14)
- Huh? - rlw 08:36:59 12/23/14 (13)
- RE: Huh? - The Dill 08:54:03 12/23/14 (12)
- Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - rlw 10:34:26 12/23/14 (11)
- RE: Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - The Dill 11:30:22 12/23/14 (10)
- RE: Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - volunteer 06:58:30 12/24/14 (8)
- RE: Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - The Dill 10:53:17 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - 4everyoung 10:36:59 12/24/14 (6)
- RE: The true "bass" is most likely un-achievable... - Eldragon 13:25:48 12/24/14 (4)
- RE: The true "bass" is most likely un-achievable... - John Atkinson 05:42:45 12/26/14 (3)
- RE: The true "bass" is most likely un-achievable... - Eldragon 06:42:12 12/26/14 (2)
- RE: The true "bass" is most likely un-achievable... - Cpk 06:27:18 12/27/14 (0)
- RE: The true "bass" is most likely un-achievable... - E-Stat 08:36:01 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, please excuse my poor choice of words... - volunteer 13:09:32 12/24/14 (0)
- I understand your "predicament". - rlw 14:08:47 12/23/14 (0)
- Thanks for sharing your experience and photo.... - 4everyoung 20:13:04 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - zendada@w-link.net 18:52:19 12/20/14 (23)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - regmac 09:01:09 12/21/14 (5)
- You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - mkuller 12:07:41 12/21/14 (3)
- RE: You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - regmac 12:37:30 12/21/14 (1)
- I suspect that... - mkuller 16:58:35 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - Eldragon 12:12:37 12/21/14 (0)
- Great - mt10425 10:29:13 12/21/14 (0)
- A fair shake? - mkuller 21:08:15 12/20/14 (16)
- RE: A fair shake? - Pat D 13:28:39 12/24/14 (2)
- RE: A fair shake? - zendada@w-link.net 20:08:33 12/28/14 (1)
- RE: A fair shake? - Pat D 20:53:20 12/29/14 (0)
- and you've never heard this speaker - mbnx01 11:44:21 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: and you've never heard this speaker - mkuller 12:15:54 12/22/14 (0)
- "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Eldragon 08:59:19 12/21/14 (8)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Rob Doorack 20:56:17 12/21/14 (7)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Eldragon 08:02:55 12/22/14 (6)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - John Atkinson 10:06:17 12/22/14 (5)
- Those Acapellas, I assume work in your room,... - Eldragon 15:48:55 12/22/14 (3)
- RE: Those Acapellas, I assume work in your room,... - John Atkinson 08:05:43 12/23/14 (2)
- thanks - most interesting to learn inner workings of magazine [n.t.a.] - wangmr 03:15:16 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Thanks...(nt - Eldragon 12:48:24 12/23/14 (0)
- Holy Fatbottles! Tubes in the home of a committed SS guy. Just in for measurements at the time? nt - Rick W 10:19:39 12/22/14 (0)
- Agree NT - lancelot 07:24:56 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: A fair shake? Perhaps. Just not as good a shake as some others! n/t - Mel 22:18:36 12/20/14 (0)
- Sold Direct?-- I thought Stereophile Reviewed products-- - Des 00:06:28 12/19/14 (30)
- RE: Sold Direct?-- I thought Stereophile Reviewed products-- - zendada@w-link.net 13:43:34 12/21/14 (1)
- Fine- Thank you - Des 14:23:50 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Sold Direct?-- I thought Stereophile Reviewed products-- - John Atkinson 04:22:30 12/19/14 (14)
- Question for J. A. - stereo5 07:39:39 12/20/14 (12)
- RE: Question for J. A. - John Atkinson 08:19:23 12/20/14 (11)
- A Question for you John - Awe-d-o-file 14:25:07 12/20/14 (9)
- RE: A Question for you John - John Atkinson 04:24:06 12/24/14 (1)
- RE: A Question for you John - Awe-d-o-file 13:55:33 12/25/14 (0)
- RE: A Question for you John - middleground 04:27:03 12/22/14 (0)
- Fair question? - soulfood 08:56:20 12/21/14 (5)
- RE: Question for J. A. - stereo5 08:55:28 12/20/14 (0)
- Fair enough--thank you JA - Des 13:23:10 12/19/14 (0)
- It appears so - 4everyoung 01:58:05 12/19/14 (11)
- LOL. Yeah, reviewers are by definition beyond reproach. nt - Rick W 10:35:08 12/19/14 (1)
- Only the reviewers at Stereophile lol - 4everyoung 14:15:47 12/19/14 (0)
- RE: Who are 'they'? - Eldragon 07:40:05 12/19/14 (8)
- Maybe I need to get a clue? - 4everyoung 10:49:35 12/19/14 (7)
- RE: Maybe you should... - Eldragon 10:56:31 12/19/14 (6)
- RE: Maybe you should... - 4everyoung 12:39:09 12/19/14 (5)
- RE: I'd deliver them personally ;) - Eldragon 05:36:07 12/20/14 (4)
- IIt's a date :-) - 4everyoung 12:02:10 12/20/14 (3)
- RE: IIt's a date :-) - Eldragon 13:59:47 12/20/14 (2)
- Would I love to stub my toe on that thing. Yikes! - 4everyoung 14:49:17 12/20/14 (1)
- RE: Would I love to stub my toe on that thing. Yikes! - Eldragon 08:43:08 12/21/14 (0)
- SP makes exception to dealer rule for products sold direct-t - agattu 01:45:04 12/19/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - bjh 10:43:28 12/18/14 (17)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - hahax@verizon.net 18:18:21 12/18/14 (3)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - zendada@w-link.net 16:32:51 12/20/14 (2)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - hahax@verizon.net 16:51:46 12/20/14 (1)
- RE:Yep - good analogy! When did you see the politicians actually 'serve' the public? - Eldragon 14:34:49 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - John Atkinson 13:08:11 12/18/14 (12)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - middleground 04:23:43 12/22/14 (0)
- RE: Perhaps Not Unless the Speaker is Sufficiently Expensive - Mel 09:21:02 12/20/14 (1)
- RE: Perhaps Not Unless the Speaker is Sufficiently Expensive - zendada@w-link.net 17:04:26 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - jamescroft@aol.com 15:31:36 12/18/14 (7)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - rebbi 17:12:33 12/18/14 (1)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - jamescroft@aol.com 10:09:37 12/19/14 (0)
- Croft Acoustical? - bjh 15:50:47 12/18/14 (4)
- RE: Croft Acoustical? - jamescroft@aol.com 16:29:57 12/18/14 (3)
- RE: Croft Acoustical? - bjh 16:38:56 12/18/14 (2)
- RE: Croft Acoustical? - rick_m 11:42:12 12/19/14 (1)
- RE: Croft Acoustical? - bjh 11:51:43 12/19/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - bjh 13:22:38 12/18/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - The Dill 19:39:42 12/17/14 (17)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - zendada@w-link.net 16:22:43 12/20/14 (0)
- How does your positioning of the speaker differ - E-Stat 10:22:32 12/18/14 (13)
- RE: How does your positioning of the speaker differ - bjh 10:47:26 12/18/14 (12)
- Thanks for the non-information ! -nt - E-Stat 10:49:23 12/18/14 (11)
- Sorry about that ... - bjh 06:33:47 12/19/14 (10)
- So... - E-Stat 08:35:20 12/19/14 (9)
- RE: So... - bjh 09:47:32 12/19/14 (8)
- My take on the live experience is different - E-Stat 12:25:47 12/19/14 (7)
- RE: My take on the live experience is different - zendada@w-link.net 16:40:23 12/20/14 (5)
- Perhaps the manufacturer - E-Stat 18:34:49 12/20/14 (4)
- RE: Perhaps the manufacturer - zendada@w-link.net 18:59:12 12/20/14 (3)
- RE: Perhaps the manufacturer - E-Stat 19:15:24 12/20/14 (2)
- RE: Perhaps the manufacturer - zendada@w-link.net 19:23:51 12/20/14 (1)
- Looks like its time - E-Stat 19:39:15 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: My take on the live experience is different - bjh 19:53:49 12/19/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - jamestavegia@gmail.com 07:09:22 12/18/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - rebbi 19:41:09 12/17/14 (0)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - Eldragon 12:56:28 12/17/14 (10)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - zendada@w-link.net 15:21:38 12/20/14 (1)
- RE: Quite fitting for this thread (nt - Eldragon 08:48:30 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - zendada@w-link.net 14:09:12 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - mkuller 15:21:20 12/17/14 (6)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - zendada@w-link.net 16:09:29 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - John Atkinson 15:39:42 12/17/14 (4)
- RE: Cute, but flawed review. Positioning speakers in room is "HIFI 101 - Gary 07:37:22 12/20/14 (0)
- I believe speakers are easiest to review... - Eldragon 15:57:44 12/17/14 (2)
- RE: I believe speakers are easiest to review... - jamestavegia@gmail.com 17:24:21 12/17/14 (1)
- Owned equipment that measured *horrible... - Eldragon 12:55:55 12/18/14 (0)
- I finally got around to reading the review. - volunteer 11:55:50 12/17/14 (0)
- No opinion on the article (haven't read) or the speakers (haven't heard), but I do have ... - carcass93 09:38:44 12/17/14 (0)
- That's the problem.... - mkuller 08:16:13 12/17/14 (3)
- RE: That's the problem.... - zendada@w-link.net 15:05:09 12/20/14 (2)
- The designer... - mkuller 15:10:46 12/20/14 (1)
- RE: The designer... - zendada@w-link.net 18:38:48 12/20/14 (0)
- I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - Nuit 12:38:30 12/16/14 (24)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - Bill the K 20:24:02 12/17/14 (0)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - hahax@verizon.net 20:47:06 12/16/14 (12)
- Funny, damned if you do - Cpk 12:35:27 12/17/14 (10)
- RE: Funny, damned if you do - zendada@w-link.net 15:20:34 12/20/14 (5)
- RE: Funny, damned if you do - Cpk 16:26:16 12/21/14 (1)
- RE: Funny, damned if you do - zendada@w-link.net 17:48:10 12/21/14 (0)
- With quirky speakers like the clue... - mkuller 12:11:16 12/21/14 (2)
- RE: With quirky speakers like the clue... - zendada@w-link.net 13:16:49 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: With quirky speakers like the clue... - Mel 12:53:51 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: Funny, damned if you do - John Atkinson 12:52:56 12/17/14 (3)
- RE: Funny, damned if you do - Cpk 17:54:42 12/17/14 (0)
- RE: You guys used to move 300lbs speakers around the room... - Eldragon 14:01:19 12/17/14 (1)
- RE: You guys used to move 300lbs speakers around the room... - John Atkinson 15:41:16 12/17/14 (0)
- A sane response. - Dave Pogue 05:17:46 12/17/14 (0)
- Let's just be generous and call it incompetence ... after all Tis the Season ;) .nt - bjh 17:48:36 12/16/14 (1)
- RE: Let's just be generous and call it incompetence ... after all Tis the Season ;) .nt - zendada@w-link.net 15:00:23 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - John Atkinson 17:11:09 12/16/14 (0)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - Ladok 15:15:45 12/16/14 (2)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - zendada@w-link.net 14:49:44 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - Sprezza Tura 17:05:55 12/16/14 (0)
- RE: I have to agree with the manufacturers comments. His quotes also are telling: - rebbi 12:44:18 12/16/14 (3)
- good speakers, terrible review - mbnx01 13:05:51 12/16/14 (2)
- RE: good speakers, terrible review - rebbi 13:33:59 12/16/14 (1)
- RE: good speakers, terrible review - mbnx01 14:26:47 12/16/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - fantja 10:01:50 12/16/14 (1)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - zendada@w-link.net 14:35:21 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - jamestavegia@gmail.com 01:55:05 12/16/14 (1)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - fantja 10:02:26 12/16/14 (0)
- Wow... got that issue a few days ago. Sorry, but USED to devour them. - David S. 15:18:27 12/15/14 (7)
- Attrition - Luminator 18:09:58 12/15/14 (5)
- RE: Attrition - Frihed89 01:15:01 12/16/14 (1)
- RE: Attrition - zendada@w-link.net 14:24:55 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Attrition - Sprezza Tura 21:52:30 12/15/14 (1)
- RE:+1 /t - Cpk 13:32:43 12/16/14 (0)
- Confusion... - mkuller 20:52:48 12/15/14 (0)
- I found this issue to be one of the more... - Jive Turkey 17:12:02 12/15/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - fantja 13:45:38 12/15/14 (0)
- Total lack of baffle step compensation in crossover - Brian H P 11:26:45 12/15/14 (1)
- RE: Total lack of baffle step compensation in crossover - zendada@w-link.net 12:56:19 12/20/14 (0)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - Pat D 10:36:28 12/15/14 (4)
- I haven't received... - mkuller 11:58:39 12/15/14 (3)
- Me neither! - rick_m 08:07:05 12/17/14 (2)
- Got mine yesterday...(nt) - mkuller 08:16:46 12/17/14 (1)
- RE: Got mine yesterday...(nt) - rick_m 17:14:59 12/17/14 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - zendada@w-link.net 18:52:19 12/20/14 (23)
- RE: Okay, a serious, non-obtuse, Stereophile (the clue) review thread - regmac 09:01:09 12/21/14 (5)
- You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - mkuller 12:07:41 12/21/14 (3)
- RE: You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - regmac 12:37:30 12/21/14 (1)
- I suspect that... - mkuller 16:58:35 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: You're late and have no desire to read the posts? - Eldragon 12:12:37 12/21/14 (0)
- Great - mt10425 10:29:13 12/21/14 (0)
- A fair shake? - mkuller 21:08:15 12/20/14 (16)
- RE: A fair shake? - Pat D 13:28:39 12/24/14 (2)
- RE: A fair shake? - zendada@w-link.net 20:08:33 12/28/14 (1)
- RE: A fair shake? - Pat D 20:53:20 12/29/14 (0)
- and you've never heard this speaker - mbnx01 11:44:21 12/22/14 (1)
- RE: and you've never heard this speaker - mkuller 12:15:54 12/22/14 (0)
- "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Eldragon 08:59:19 12/21/14 (8)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Rob Doorack 20:56:17 12/21/14 (7)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - Eldragon 08:02:55 12/22/14 (6)
- RE: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." - John Atkinson 10:06:17 12/22/14 (5)
- Those Acapellas, I assume work in your room,... - Eldragon 15:48:55 12/22/14 (3)
- RE: Those Acapellas, I assume work in your room,... - John Atkinson 08:05:43 12/23/14 (2)
- thanks - most interesting to learn inner workings of magazine [n.t.a.] - wangmr 03:15:16 12/26/14 (0)
- RE: Thanks...(nt - Eldragon 12:48:24 12/23/14 (0)
- Holy Fatbottles! Tubes in the home of a committed SS guy. Just in for measurements at the time? nt - Rick W 10:19:39 12/22/14 (0)
- Agree NT - lancelot 07:24:56 12/21/14 (0)
- RE: A fair shake? Perhaps. Just not as good a shake as some others! n/t - Mel 22:18:36 12/20/14 (0)