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In Reply to: "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " posted by volunteer on June 24, 2012 at 06:14:01:
"A manufacturer of bad components shouldn't be shielded by a buried review."
I concur.
I really like the way Stereophile handles that sort of thing. They provide an ample opportunity to sort it out to the benefit of both the manufacturer and the reader.
Rick
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - jult52 10:25:45 06/14/12 (138)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - dtximages 08:55:24 09/01/22 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - dtximages 09:53:14 08/31/22 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - dtximages 08:27:12 08/30/22 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - dtximages 11:15:55 08/29/22 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - fantja 14:09:18 03/14/15 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - mcsemikey1@yahoo.com 09:34:00 03/14/15 (1)
- RE: Krell S-275 beats FPB600 - A.Wayne 11:34:44 03/17/15 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - byegolly 04:16:58 10/03/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - lakeallen5 13:53:02 09/27/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Inmate51 19:35:15 06/26/12 (17)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 07:14:24 06/27/12 (3)
- Reviewers... - mkuller 08:48:01 06/27/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Inmate51 08:18:07 06/27/12 (0)
- Good Post (nt) - Jack G 07:27:05 06/27/12 (0)
- Good reviewers... - mkuller 21:04:37 06/26/12 (12)
- RE: Good reviewers... - Inmate51 10:09:30 06/27/12 (8)
- He never mentioned Julian Hirsch - Jack G 10:25:52 06/27/12 (6)
- RE: He never mentioned Julian Hirsch - Inmate51 16:47:11 06/27/12 (0)
- Julian Hirsch... - mkuller 10:30:48 06/27/12 (4)
- I love the funny stories about him... - E-Stat 14:43:39 07/03/12 (0)
- If you were in the market for a reviewer - 1973shovel 10:50:50 06/29/12 (0)
- RE: Julian Hirsch... - Inmate51 16:51:42 06/27/12 (0)
- Mine either - Jack G 10:57:53 06/27/12 (0)
- No doubt... - mkuller 10:16:38 06/27/12 (0)
- RE: Good reviewers... - soulfood 04:18:27 06/27/12 (2)
- The magazines... - mkuller 08:50:08 06/27/12 (1)
- RE: The magazines... - soulfood 12:29:18 06/27/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Linn 11:28:31 06/26/12 (6)
- Krell S-275 & subs - What's up with that? - JerryS 18:53:41 06/27/12 (5)
- RE: Krell S-275 & subs - What's up with that? - soulfood 07:29:33 06/28/12 (4)
- RE: Krell S-275 & subs - What's up with that? - JerryS 07:42:56 06/28/12 (3)
- Further thoughts on subwoofer phase - JerryS 10:07:01 06/30/12 (0)
- RE: Krell S-275 & subs - What's up with that? - soulfood 08:45:42 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: Krell S-275 & subs - What's up with that? - JerryS 08:56:01 06/28/12 (0)
- Who cares what he thinks?? - Robert Hamel 09:06:29 06/26/12 (3)
- Agree, but the fact is - JerryS 19:03:02 06/27/12 (2)
- RE: Agree, but the fact is - soulfood 06:12:08 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: Agree, but the fact is - Ralph 13:22:03 06/28/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - bjh 10:47:32 06/25/12 (0)
- 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 10:16:21 06/21/12 (59)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - JerryS 07:02:17 06/27/12 (5)
- Posts of yours elsewhere on Audioasylum.co belie this. - Ralph 08:57:42 06/27/12 (4)
- yawn - JerryS 09:48:44 06/27/12 (3)
- sweet. Here's another link - Ralph 10:49:05 06/27/12 (2)
- Your vindictive, inaccurate, whining, petulant, outdated, smelly brown river of libelous personal attacks... - JerryS 14:57:31 06/29/12 (1)
- Seems you can't stick to your own word elsewhere on this site. - Ralph 15:57:34 06/29/12 (0)
- same experience - Grant 17:35:46 06/25/12 (2)
- RE: same experience - JerryS 07:40:06 06/27/12 (0)
- Yes, it seems that manufacturers need to be wary of him nt - Ralph 09:58:41 06/26/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 10:50:28 06/25/12 (6)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 12:33:07 06/25/12 (5)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 12:41:20 06/25/12 (4)
- My advice to you would be to learn some manners - Pinkus 11:19:02 06/26/12 (3)
- It has now been pointed out to him that the "Stereophile reviewer (Steven Stone)" who panned his preamp - bjh 09:42:09 06/27/12 (2)
- This stuff is all a matter of public record. - Ralph 13:11:11 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: This stuff is all a matter of public record. - Cpk 14:57:42 06/28/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - John Atkinson 07:34:44 06/24/12 (19)
- FIXED - Jerry Seigel, B.S., MBA, age 57, Occupation: company president - JerryS 07:11:44 06/28/12 (1)
- RE: FIXED - Jerry Seigel, B.S., MBA, age 57, Occupation: company president - John Atkinson 04:33:49 06/29/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - bjh 10:52:46 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: 10 Audio is an excellent example of why reveiwers should not write bad reviews. - Ralph 07:48:26 06/25/12 (2)
- Yet another example of you being WRONG, WRONG WRONG! - JerryS 08:34:48 06/28/12 (1)
- You can't ignore the truth of your own posts on this website. - Ralph 13:08:10 06/28/12 (0)
- Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 08:46:55 06/24/12 (12)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - John Atkinson 11:38:57 06/24/12 (11)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 11:47:23 06/24/12 (10)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - John Atkinson 14:59:21 06/24/12 (9)
- RE: Agree with exception to the omission of authoring being an error. - soulfood 15:52:44 06/24/12 (8)
- Names... - RGA 17:08:44 06/24/12 (7)
- RE: yes - Cpk 07:10:08 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: Names... - soulfood 18:55:26 06/24/12 (5)
- LOL - Nothing to gain! Absolutely!!! - JerryS 13:21:49 06/28/12 (0)
- Considering that all 10 Audio reviews are done by Jerry S, what are his "questionable review standards" ? nt - Rick W 09:33:11 06/25/12 (3)
- It depends. Is 'considering' a fact or the same as 'if'. -nt - soulfood 11:58:28 06/25/12 (2)
- Maybe you should check the site out before opining about his review standards. nt - Rick W 12:52:27 06/25/12 (1)
- Maybe, thanks. -nt - soulfood 13:11:52 06/25/12 (0)
- "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " - volunteer 06:14:01 06/24/12 (22)
- IMO, a pan is more valuable than a rave to a potential buyer. - JerryS 09:20:50 06/29/12 (0)
- Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 07:45:50 06/25/12 (16)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Sstone8807@aol.com 08:03:32 08/22/14 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - minimus 15:11:19 10/20/14 (0)
- He purchased the review sample !! - Shep 14:43:37 06/26/12 (2)
- RE: Yes, my memory is playing tricks... - Ralph 15:15:29 06/26/12 (1)
- Too Funny!!! nt - bjh 09:23:47 06/27/12 (0)
- Not sure I follow you here... - jamesgarvin 20:49:37 06/25/12 (2)
- Genuinely bad - Inmate51 23:26:21 06/25/12 (1)
- The problem here is that you have no good way to know - Ralph 10:03:04 06/26/12 (0)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Linn 08:54:56 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 09:14:15 06/25/12 (0)
- Ralph, this statement is my only area of disagreement. - volunteer 08:19:22 06/25/12 (3)
- Yes, we may have to disagree on that - Ralph 09:29:19 06/25/12 (2)
- "I realized that bad reviews are often unethical," - volunteer 13:11:38 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: "I realized that bad reviews are often unethical," - Ralph 14:36:49 06/25/12 (0)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - rick_m 08:10:11 06/25/12 (1)
- RE: Yes- we want honest reviews... - Ralph 09:07:01 06/25/12 (0)
- First of all... - mkuller 14:03:14 06/24/12 (2)
- RE: First of all... - hahax@verizon.net 20:18:39 06/24/12 (0)
- "what if it's wrong?" - volunteer 14:11:02 06/24/12 (0)
- RE: "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " - rick_m 08:08:47 06/24/12 (0)
- They seem to have no reliable reviewing methodology, so why care what they say? (nt) - Pat D 14:37:10 06/20/12 (11)
- RE: They seem to have no reliable reviewing methodology, so why care what they say? (nt) - Tony Lauck 12:02:31 06/21/12 (3)
- Look at it from a different perpective. - carcass93 13:05:38 06/21/12 (2)
- RE: Look at it from a different perpective. - Tony Lauck 13:45:39 06/21/12 (1)
- RE: Look at it from a different perpective. - rick_m 08:27:13 06/24/12 (0)
- They listen - and express their opinion about what they heard. Seems pretty reliable to me. - carcass93 14:58:59 06/20/12 (6)
- Many different answers, use what you can. - tmsorosk 16:33:18 06/20/12 (4)
- I don't think it was a valid question, considering the posting history of the person who asked it. - carcass93 08:00:53 06/21/12 (2)
- You have committed a classical logical fallacy. - Pat D 08:37:16 06/21/12 (1)
- Nope, I did not. - carcass93 08:50:37 06/21/12 (0)
- RE: Many different answers, use what you can. - Pat D 19:48:07 06/20/12 (0)
- Like I said, not a reliable methodology. - Pat D 16:29:23 06/20/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - tmsorosk 04:40:09 06/20/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 18:25:11 06/15/12 (21)
- So the rating system is perfect for you! - JerryS 06:37:14 06/28/12 (2)
- RE: So the rating system is perfect for you! - RGA 05:47:20 06/30/12 (1)
- Further thoughts on reviews - JerryS 08:29:33 06/30/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Eric B 19:09:06 06/15/12 (17)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 20:47:25 06/15/12 (16)
- Context - JerryS 09:53:02 06/30/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Eric B 21:12:00 06/15/12 (14)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - mkuller 14:28:34 06/16/12 (11)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Eric B 23:57:03 06/18/12 (10)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 19:36:23 06/19/12 (9)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Eric B 23:13:03 06/19/12 (8)
- And you remind me... - mkuller 10:54:50 06/22/12 (6)
- RE: And you remind me... - Eric B 13:21:07 06/22/12 (5)
- That would be... - mkuller 16:07:14 06/22/12 (4)
- RE: That would be... - Eric B 21:02:14 06/22/12 (3)
- Unprovoked? - mkuller 21:09:22 06/22/12 (2)
- RE: Unprovoked? - Eric B 22:12:19 06/22/12 (1)
- Why is your... - mkuller 09:44:33 06/23/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 02:09:28 06/20/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - RGA 23:55:47 06/15/12 (1)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Frihed89 23:59:28 06/18/12 (0)
- RE: Critics being critical: 10 Audio pans the Krell S-275 - Bob Rex 10:36:14 06/15/12 (0)
- Since D'agostino is gone, you have to wonder about the engineering talent and vision there.... - viridian 12:00:36 06/14/12 (2)
- Personally the 'Krell which is just some old failed marantz is what I thought sucks - Elizabeth 14:20:07 06/14/12 (1)
- RE: Personally the 'Krell which is just some old failed marantz is what I thought sucks - zako 18:56:38 06/14/12 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: "If it is genuinely bad, there simply should be no review at all. " - rick_m 08:08:47 06/24/12 (0)