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In Reply to: Interesting article on blind testing. posted by Charles Hansen on September 20, 2008 at 14:10:45:
For me the most interesting quote from the article is:
"the real answer, though, lies not so much in the actual sound that is produced, but more with some intangible interaction between the player and the instrument"
With musical instruments the "feel" and feedback between the instrument and the player is far more important than its sound to listeners. The listeners are just all along for the ride. The interaction between the player and the instrument is where the rubber meets the road AND where the difference between a $5,000 and $50,000 and $500,000 instrument matters most.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Interesting article on blind testing. - Charles Hansen 14:10:45 09/20/08 (104)
- RE: Interesting article on blind testing. - c.nourie@sbcglobal.net 22:22:42 09/24/08 (0)
- RE: Interesting article on blind testing. - morricab 08:28:43 09/22/08 (1)
- The arguement for... - mkuller 12:52:17 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: Interesting article on blind testing. - unclestu52 17:10:06 09/21/08 (1)
- Does the Met still do blind auditions of singers? (nt) - Pat D 20:36:45 09/23/08 (0)
- seems pretty confused to me - tunenut 15:16:50 09/21/08 (8)
- RE: seems pretty confused to me - Charles Hansen 20:51:21 09/21/08 (7)
- Charles, Charles, Charles... - bjh 13:24:50 09/22/08 (0)
- thanks - tunenut 10:07:14 09/22/08 (0)
- testing stress = red herring - Axon 09:33:24 09/22/08 (2)
- I'd love an example or two of a positive DBT - BadgerDMS 10:20:01 09/22/08 (1)
- RE: I'd love an example or two of a positive DBT - Axon 12:52:25 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: Stress is a crutch - theaudiohobby 02:26:51 09/22/08 (1)
- Not so. - Dave Pogue 05:58:45 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: Interesting article on blind testing. - Sstone8807@aol.com 09:34:51 09/21/08 (0)
- Speaking "objectively", the people cited are just dead wrong - kerr 07:05:49 09/21/08 (34)
- RE: Speaking "objectively", the people cited are just dead wrong - John Atkinson 08:43:46 09/21/08 (33)
- The self-proclaimed "expert" on DBT methodology strikes again - Richard BassNut Greene 08:37:10 09/23/08 (13)
- Thanks Richard.... - robert young 10:15:58 09/23/08 (10)
- "Your old technique of endless repetition had gotten boring. " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:12:22 09/24/08 (9)
- RE: "Your old technique of endless repetition had gotten boring. " - robert young 08:48:42 09/24/08 (8)
- Not once has any high-end audio journal reported two components sounded alike to a reviewer = snow job - Richard BassNut Greene 14:05:09 09/24/08 (7)
- Another classic RBNG rant, where anecdotes masquerade as facts. - robert young 14:26:06 09/24/08 (6)
- Another classic Young Robert character attack with no audio content at all (you prefer insults to audio?) nt - Richard BassNut Greene 17:24:21 09/24/08 (5)
- you're just making it worse for yourself. - robert young 19:37:43 09/24/08 (4)
- "You ought to consider reading your own posts" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:18:00 09/25/08 (3)
- More pathetic by the post. - robert young 09:57:28 09/25/08 (2)
- yes you are. - Richard BassNut Greene 14:07:18 09/26/08 (1)
- Is that the ol', "I know you are but what am I?" - robert young 17:37:14 09/26/08 (0)
- RE: The self-proclaimed "expert" on DBT methodology strikes again - kerr 09:50:18 09/23/08 (1)
- Correction - kerr 09:54:02 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: Speaking "objectively", the people cited are just dead wrong - rkeman 14:00:49 09/21/08 (13)
- BS "test" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:42:37 09/23/08 (11)
- BS analysis of test - robert young 10:23:58 09/23/08 (10)
- Your post is so easily refuted, I completed a NY Times crossword puzzle and read a book while typing this response - Richard BassNut Greene 08:04:06 09/24/08 (9)
- Time for another romp on the logic lawn with RBNG - robert young 08:29:09 09/24/08 (8)
- I guess this would be your::::: MY SCIENCE is "Everything sounds different because I say so" post? - Richard BassNut Greene 10:24:06 09/24/08 (7)
- Thanks for the misquote and the hypocrisy, Dick. - robert young 11:04:24 09/24/08 (6)
- Young Robert admits the truth:::::: "I don't deny attacking your character, " - Richard BassNut Greene 17:40:38 09/24/08 (5)
- You do realize everyone else can read what you post?? - robert young 19:46:59 09/24/08 (4)
- I present the brilliant Young Robert outburst for the MODERATOR: "You are so full of s..t your eyes are brown" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:10:21 09/25/08 (3)
- Poor Richard, Can dish out the attacks, but can't take any. - robert young 09:25:55 09/25/08 (2)
- "can't take any"? -- I take a Pearl Harborlike character attack in every post from you ! - Richard BassNut Greene 14:06:26 09/26/08 (1)
- Nice try, but as usual..... - robert young 17:40:40 09/26/08 (0)
- Awesome post! - Charles Hansen 18:32:58 09/21/08 (0)
- I think he was joking - Analog Scott 10:23:11 09/21/08 (4)
- Yes he was - kerr 14:40:09 09/21/08 (3)
- At least in blind testing ... - Richard BassNut Greene 09:04:17 09/23/08 (2)
- RE: At least in blind testing ... - kerr 09:41:26 09/23/08 (0)
- "... when people compare a wire with itself, they usually tend to score 50% right and 50% wrong " - Analog Scott 09:14:29 09/23/08 (0)
- Musical instruments aren't quite the same thing - rbolaw 07:02:16 09/21/08 (0)
- I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Bar81 06:24:47 09/21/08 (46)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 12:03:24 09/21/08 (45)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 17:21:15 09/22/08 (43)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Tony Lauck 19:39:20 09/22/08 (34)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 22:31:23 09/22/08 (33)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 01:15:03 09/23/08 (32)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 08:59:36 09/23/08 (31)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 09:30:45 09/23/08 (30)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 09:49:15 09/23/08 (29)
- RE:Classic circular argument. - theaudiohobby 10:01:44 09/23/08 (25)
- I'm sure it looks circular to you. You don't understand the topic - Analog Scott 14:43:37 09/23/08 (23)
- RE: I'm sure it looks circular to you. You don't understand the topic - theaudiohobby 16:16:10 09/23/08 (22)
- RE: I'm sure it looks circular to you. You don't understand the topic - Analog Scott 17:23:47 09/23/08 (21)
- RE: I'm sure it looks circular to you. You don't understand the topic - theaudiohobby 06:30:07 09/24/08 (20)
- RE: I'm sure it looks circular to you. You don't understand the topic - Analog Scott 13:59:20 09/24/08 (14)
- RE: You've drowned the issue - theaudiohobby 08:16:07 09/25/08 (13)
- here is the relevant information. try, try, please try to understand it this time - Analog Scott 10:58:55 09/25/08 (8)
- RE: Boy, can you ramble - theaudiohobby 12:02:30 09/25/08 (7)
- Boy, can you be obtuse - Analog Scott 14:42:43 09/25/08 (6)
- RE: Boy do you going round in circles - theaudiohobby 21:08:42 09/25/08 (5)
- Boy fo you love to embarrass yourself - Analog Scott 22:02:43 09/25/08 (4)
- RE: Take 2 - theaudiohobby 02:34:45 09/26/08 (1)
- seriously dude GET A CLUE - Analog Scott 09:12:54 09/26/08 (0)
- RE: Boy, you are dense.... - theaudiohobby 22:46:33 09/25/08 (1)
- your post has zero substance - Analog Scott 23:30:50 09/25/08 (0)
- I've done a similar test in my living room - Tony Lauck 10:16:27 09/25/08 (3)
- RE: I've done a similar test in my living room - morricab 09:19:50 10/14/08 (0)
- RE: I've done a similar test in my living room - theaudiohobby 01:49:19 09/27/08 (1)
- RE: I've done a similar test in my living room - Tony Lauck 08:18:10 09/27/08 (0)
- Why don't you just go away? - Charles Hansen 09:26:04 09/24/08 (4)
- AR-3a WAS perfect but not as nice as the KLH-6 - Tony Lauck 09:50:45 09/25/08 (1)
- Yikes! - Charles Hansen 14:56:04 09/25/08 (0)
- RE: LOL! - theaudiohobby 10:52:23 09/24/08 (1)
- "I a'int going nowhere." - Analog Scott 14:02:01 09/24/08 (0)
- You are not only arrogant and insulting... - robert young 10:31:27 09/23/08 (0)
- Well said. [nt] - Charles Hansen 09:52:37 09/23/08 (2)
- RE: Do you need to stoop this low? -nt - theaudiohobby 10:03:08 09/23/08 (1)
- so if one actually understands the topic they are somehow stooping to some new low? - Analog Scott 15:23:39 09/23/08 (0)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 19:25:32 09/22/08 (7)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 19:38:38 09/22/08 (6)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 19:51:22 09/22/08 (5)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 21:11:04 09/22/08 (4)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 01:03:57 09/23/08 (3)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Analog Scott 09:08:57 09/23/08 (2)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - theaudiohobby 05:34:15 09/24/08 (1)
- It took you a day to come up with that? - Analog Scott 14:03:36 09/24/08 (0)
- RE: I particularly liked and thought appropriate... - Tony Lauck 10:58:32 09/22/08 (0)
- RE: The conclusion is factually incorrect. - theaudiohobby 03:59:58 09/21/08 (2)
- Different listeners change the results... - mkuller 11:09:57 09/21/08 (0)
- BS - robert young 06:25:46 09/21/08 (0)
- This needs to be posted on PropHead, Charles...(nt) - mkuller 21:06:46 09/20/08 (2)
- Sorry about that... - Charles Hansen 12:57:59 09/21/08 (1)
- that's too bad... - robert young 10:34:49 09/23/08 (0)
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- RE: Interesting article on blind testing. - Sstone8807@aol.com 09:34:51 09/21/08 (0)