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RE: Arguing 'till you're blue in the face

Not so you are trying to suggest that what you LIKE is accurate and that anyone who spends more on something different only likes it because they like distortion.

And you forget that tube amps have gotten VASTLY better since the old days when you owned Phase Linear. But you select CHEAP mediocre tubes (Schitt) - people like it more because it's cheap not because it's actually really good. It's good for the money because there is almost nothing that inexpensive. The Audio Note I-Zero is AN's least expensive amplifier and it walks all over Schitt.

Then your other example is Sonic Frontiers - a tube amp maker so good they went belly up. SF was middling.

You don't compare any quality gear. You're stuck in views you had from the 1980s - tube amps are not good by virtue of being tube. I prefer numerous SS amplifiers and class D amplifiers over tube amplifiers and SET amplifiers.

But in most cases - a company that sells say 5 amplifiers - the most expensive one usually sounds the best. I may not like the house sound of a given brand but I can recognize that their top model usually sounds the best (albeit not always).

Pretty sure that the most expensive Schitt will sound better than the least expensive model. The folks who love Pass Labs all note that the .8 series fixed up the problems of the .5 series. Bryston cubed sounds better than Bryston squared etc.

Do you know that if you actually buy a new quality turntable you can listen to Shostakovich on vinyl without noise and superior dynamics? Astonishing. They have improved so much since the 1980s that people are buying classical LPs in droves and now outselling CD - which is pretty good since LP is so impractical and can't be listened to on the go or in a car.

If you're ever in Hong Kong - drop by. I'll play it and I can pretty much guarantee you that after the first 2 minutes you will put your system up for sale and be heading to my dealer and then to your bank to put a reverse mortgage out on your house.

I don't get why a music lover, especially a classical music lover, is so opposed to auditioning higher-end gear. You don't have to buy the stuff. But would it kill you to phone up a dealer - set a time - bring your music - play it for a couple of hours just to hear it? I mean granted right now - yes the trip might literally kill you but once the situation has improved.

The dealers I go to aren't the high-pressure used car salesman types of the 1980s either (well mine aren't) so that helps.

And with AN - 20 years ago they only had 1 dealer in Canada. There are now 5 in Canada which isn't too bad for a brand that offers no remotes or particularly fancy looks. Canada's population is smaller than California's. They're in Alberta, BC, Ontario, and Quebec.

Why so opposed to trying stuff? Are you perhaps worried that if it does actually sound vastly better that you would have to spend more money or that you've wasted 50 years reading about stuff and making assumptions that turn out wrong? I wasted 12 years with a bunch of highly rated and reviewed products from the magazines and forums blabbing about distortion and bought into it. And when it all got royally thumped I tipped my hat and said oh well 12 years down the drain and some money down the drain but that is the cost of education.


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