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RE: GREAT HORNYTOADS

Posted by hahax@verizon.net (A) on July 26, 2024 at 17:35:38

In Reply to: RE: GREAT HORNYTOADS posted by kentaja on July 26, 2024 at 06:46:56:

First of all my Froys are over 20 years old with older woofer baskets. Secondly Mine are crossed over passively at 85 Hz to 18" woofers in 5.25 cubic foot boxes with a stuffed port kike Dynaco A25s. The woofers were designed by Murray Zeligman who designed the Froys. There were 3 of these system with the 18" woofers. So my system isn't pure Froy

My main complaint with my system is it often can be bright, Interestingly this seems minimized on well done live classical recordings. According to the designer this is because the system is flat on axis which causes the power response to cause brightness due to narrowing dispersion.

What I love is superbly linear dynamics. Tis is especially evident on dynamic piano recordings, one of if not the hardest instrument to reproduce. This is helped, of course by the 85 Hz crossover taking a huge load off the Froys. My system is extremely detailed and open. And mid bass and bass are awesomely articulate. I hate bass that is not super controlled. Most reflex bass, even the well designed ones are soft sounding to me. There are recordings when I can close my eyes and feel like I can hear a drum skin return to its mid position.

The Quads are magic in many ways. They were a true breakthrough in so many ways in the 1950s. They belong in the TAS top 15. I just can't see them as number 1 in the list. I don't even mind their narrow dispersion. But they lack linear dynamics, linear level changes, especially when the change is large like often on a piano. And I sincerely believe after 60 years of the crazy, fun hobby that the most fundamental characteristic of live sound is linear dynamics and not, albeit also important frequency response or low distortion. I'd rather sacrifice that kind of characteristics so long as it's not way off than linear dynamics. When you hear live sound outside a room you know its live although the frequency response is fouled up. But the dynamics still come through. The sad problem, of course, in recordings is we rarely get close enough to linear dynamics. And by linear by the way I mean micro changes and mini changes and midi changes as well as macro ones. Too many people take playing loud, cleanly as dynamics. That's just one part of it.

Edits: 07/26/24

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