After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable.

Posted by jeffreybehr (A) on July 30, 2022 at 01:16:07

In Reply to: Sanders 10e hybrid-e'stat speaker ARE RUNNING! posted by jeffreybehr on July 27, 2022 at 02:03:11:

The combination of speakers that use stretched-plastic diaphragms and amps with Teflon-film caps--and not used for months before I received them--is sometimes tough to listen to while both are burning-in.. The bass still sounds GREAT, but the sounds from the panels are, at different times, course, hard, 'swimmy', veiled, etc.. I'm told it'll take at maybe 300 hours to sound good.

Meanwhile I've finally equipped my Bosch DLR130 Distance Measurer with an Arca-Swiss tripod plate that aligns the rotational center of the device with the line of the lazer, all of which eliminates its paralax error.. Mounted on my foto tripod, it now enables repeatable distance measurements to plus-or-minus 1/16", and I've managed to set the speaker distances to within 1/16" and get the speakers' toe-in and vertical tilt right where they should be.

I still have my Serenity Super-7s and wish I were listening to THEM, but another 1-1/2 weeks (c. 225 hours) on the 10Es ought to show me how good they can sound.

Still fantasizing about different poweramps.. My goals are excellent-sounding monoamps* with at least 60 Watts, all triode vacuumtubes, fully balanced with XLR inputs of course, and affordable**.. OH WAIT--I already have a pair in the Atma-Sphere M-60s!! Seriously now, I'm looking for a pair of Allnic A-6000s; they're built using FOUR 300Bs in parallel for 50 watts of power (or 60 with Emission Labs 300B XLSs), Permalloy transformer cores, and a low-winds-ratio output transformer.. Since I have a 240VAC branch circuit in the house close to the musicroom, I'm considering two pairs now in England and Singapore(!!).. I know--I'm crazy!

* When the audio world starts using 'stereoblock' to describe a 2-channel amp, I MIGHT start using 'monoblock' to describe a single-channel amp.

** That term is rather vague, but it's my money, so I understand it.

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Topic - Sanders 10e hybrid-e'stat speaker ARE RUNNING! - jeffreybehr 02:03:11 07/27/22 (23)

Roger Sanders mailed me a $14,100 check on Saturday... - jeffreybehr 12:41:36 08/18/22 (0)

And they're packed to be returned to Mr. Sanders... - jeffreybehr 19:12:15 08/08/22 (1)

RE: And they're packed to be returned to Mr. Sanders... - Utley1 10:22:36 08/10/22 (0)

The 10es will soon be on their way back to Sanders - jeffreybehr 20:10:28 08/05/22 (2)

RE: The 10es will soon be on their way back to Sanders - sk 06:50:36 08/06/22 (1)

"my stand mount Colibri Electrum S...puts a smile on my face daily" - jeffreybehr 16:41:23 08/06/22 (0)

Tuesday the 2nd, after about 140 hours of burn-in... - jeffreybehr 11:45:56 08/04/22 (2)

RE: Tuesday the 2nd, after about 140 hours of burn-in... - timm 19:05:41 08/04/22 (0)

RE: Tuesday the 2nd, after about 140 hours of burn-in... - sk 18:05:10 08/04/22 (0)

RE: Sanders 10e hybrid-e'stat speaker ARE RUNNING! - sk 07:14:43 07/31/22 (2)

The use of 'had' means you no longer have them? - jeffreybehr 13:09:48 07/31/22 (1)

RE: The use of 'had' means you no longer have them? - sk 13:20:42 07/31/22 (0)

After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - jeffreybehr 01:16:07 07/30/22 (2)

RE: After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - timm 21:31:36 07/30/22 (1)

RE: After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - jeffreybehr 22:35:55 07/30/22 (0)

You should look into the BACCH-dsP system. - jimbill 17:05:14 07/29/22 (0)

Glad Sanders is TL not OB - Jon L 20:35:04 07/27/22 (5)

Yes; he reduced the price to 14k$ from 20k$.. Also, if you pay by check... - jeffreybehr 13:29:15 07/28/22 (1)

At 14K, Sanders 10e is stupendous value - Jon L 20:08:16 07/28/22 (0)

RE: Glad Sanders is TL not OB - emailtim 07:57:55 07/28/22 (2)

Magtech, one included - Jon L 12:20:34 07/28/22 (1)

RE: Magtech, one included - emailtim 10:35:35 07/29/22 (0)

RE: Sanders 10e hybrid-e'stat speaker ARE RUNNING! - Utley1 07:00:30 07/27/22 (0)

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After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - jeffreybehr 01:16:07 07/30/22 (2)

RE: After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - timm 21:31:36 07/30/22 (1)

RE: After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable. - jeffreybehr 22:35:55 07/30/22 (0)

After 60+ hours of burn-in, the 10Es sound barely tolerable.

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