In Reply to: A message from Wendell at Magnepan posted by gtb75 on January 19, 2011 at 07:20:49:
I know any post of mine is going to be a lightning rod, but wow, I have to respond to this thing.
This "document" comes across, as Tolkien put it in TLOTR, as the remonstrance of a kindly king to an erring but much-loved minister. It's littered with much of the same old same old arrogance and
condescension they always exhibited - WE know better, please DON'T question us.
Even though he probably meant well, it all comes across as a talking down to. Now, I have said they are in business to be in business, so I am not going to attack their business model. If doing what they are doing keeps them in business (or they at least think it will) then that is their business. I have no comment on that.
However a lot of the commentary makes no sense and some is directed at us.
"We don't expend any energy or time to confirm or deny the effectiveness of any idea."
If you're like me you did 3 triple takes after reading that one. Yes, it simply boggles. That's a hell of a slogan to put over the workroom floor entrance...
Would you gamble with your job that your favorite tweak will be heard and appreciated by thousands of consumers?
What is of course ironic here is my "gamble" became my business. Again, not telling them what to do but this comment makes it clear they do not and will not EVER push the envelope. So this should settle it once and for all for those of you who keep expecting some miracle maggie. You'll never see it, the horses mouth just said so.
They used terminology that you would recognize.
What, like words from the English language? It's probably me but I find that comment came across really badly.... and nearly insulting.
As a manufacturer, we have the option of trying tweaks that far exceed what we read on the internet.
That's really an insult to the hard work and actual care and dedication of almost everyone here, and IMHO shows he doesn't know what he's talking about. The people of this forum have done more to advance this speaker in the past 20 years than they have, and that's a damn fact.
And this is what perhaps pisses me off the most. I could see if he said "I acknowledge a lot of what many of you have done betters our product, but it is not fiscally possible in these times and with audio as it is to try to incorporate them, but we do admire your contributions and success, and especially your passion for our product." That's a feel good statement (and a true one) for everybody.
But no. Instead we were told dad knows best, they've done things we never dreamed of, and we need to shut up and just buy what we're given, thank you.... well, at least we'll all rest better knowing Magnepan has 60 year old russian immigrants doing their blind testing now. And here Redwood thought they used young wetbacks....
All right, everyone start screaming...
It's all about the music...
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Follow Ups
- Wow - Peter Gunn 12:39:01 01/19/11 (85)
- well said - mbnx01 07:54:21 01/20/11 (2)
- RE: it is known as Minnesota NIce - rolle.mark 20:36:58 01/21/11 (0)
- RE: well said - josh358 15:44:22 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - Dawnrazor 22:45:21 01/19/11 (11)
- RE: Wow - Peter Gunn 07:02:09 01/20/11 (9)
- RE: Wow - Dawnrazor 09:23:17 01/21/11 (0)
- Remember PG - delaney@rea-apl.com 11:11:52 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - gtb75 07:57:26 01/20/11 (4)
- RE: Wow - Satie 14:08:13 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - Peter Gunn 11:40:47 01/20/11 (2)
- I can only sat one thig (maybe more) - macmagman 17:31:40 01/20/11 (1)
- OOPs I ment to say, say one thing (maybe more) (nt) - macmagman 17:34:03 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - IEaudiodude 07:24:11 01/20/11 (1)
- RE: Wow - Peter Gunn 07:54:31 01/20/11 (0)
- I'm a little 'slow' - wazoo 05:41:14 01/20/11 (0)
- No screaming here. - esande 16:40:04 01/19/11 (24)
- RE: No screaming here. - morricab 03:44:05 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: No screaming here. - Peter Gunn 20:13:16 01/19/11 (19)
- RE: No screaming here. - josh358 16:11:53 01/20/11 (0)
- It's not about me - sorry, Charlie. - wazoo 05:13:20 01/20/11 (2)
- RE: It's not about me - sorry, Charlie. - IEaudiodude 06:57:34 01/20/11 (1)
- RE: It's not about me - sorry, Charlie. - Norman M 07:54:04 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: No screaming here. - morricab 03:45:13 01/20/11 (0)
- A message from "Peter Gunn" at Magnestand - Davey 21:22:54 01/19/11 (0)
- I get it. - esande 20:56:09 01/19/11 (12)
- Meaning of Second Sentence - HarlemAirShaft 22:58:25 01/20/11 (3)
- RE: Meaning of Second Sentence - josh358 06:49:24 01/21/11 (0)
- RE: Meaning of Second Sentence - Green Lantern 00:54:13 01/21/11 (1)
- A-HA! I KNEW Aunt Betsy was the problem! (nt) - Peter Gunn 06:15:39 01/21/11 (0)
- agree and would add... - Green Lantern 00:23:20 01/20/11 (0)
- I don't think anyone gets it. - Peter Gunn 22:03:48 01/19/11 (6)
- RE: I don't think anyone gets it. - JLindborg 00:31:11 01/20/11 (5)
- RE: I don't think anyone gets it. - Peter Gunn 07:21:46 01/20/11 (3)
- Agree and Disagree - Webnick 09:14:27 01/20/11 (2)
- RE: Agree and Disagree - Peter Gunn 11:54:44 01/20/11 (1)
- LOL! nt - Webnick 12:26:43 01/20/11 (0)
- Is this a case of "Midgets unite"?? :-)) ... - andyr 01:10:59 01/20/11 (0)
- RE: No screaming here. - josh358 19:03:54 01/19/11 (1)
- They make speakers that come in boxes? :-) - esande 19:42:43 01/19/11 (0)
- RE: No screaming here. - gtb75 17:40:03 01/19/11 (0)
- I think you need to... - mdl 15:48:56 01/19/11 (3)
- RE: I think you need to... - Peter Gunn 19:59:56 01/19/11 (2)
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- Ice and bias... - mdl 20:25:05 01/19/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - magiccarpetride 14:14:30 01/19/11 (16)
- RE: Wow - Peter Gunn 19:30:39 01/19/11 (13)
- RE: Wow - magiccarpetride 10:15:28 01/20/11 (12)
- RE: Wow - josh358 16:53:50 01/20/11 (11)
- Magnepan future - magiccarpetride 11:06:22 01/21/11 (10)
- RE: Magnepan future - IEaudiodude 11:47:30 01/21/11 (0)
- RE: Magnepan future - josh358 11:45:02 01/21/11 (8)
- RE: Magnepan future - magiccarpetride 11:58:53 01/21/11 (7)
- RE: Magnepan future - josh358 16:12:05 01/21/11 (6)
- RE: Magnepan future - JLindborg 16:44:03 01/21/11 (5)
- RE: Magnepan future - josh358 17:24:00 01/21/11 (4)
- RE: Magnepan future - JLindborg 17:36:11 01/21/11 (3)
- RE: Magnepan future - josh358 18:00:06 01/21/11 (2)
- The "Greek guys" are Analysis Audio, BTW. (nt) - esande 23:42:00 01/21/11 (1)
- RE: The "Greek guys" are Analysis Audio - josh358 05:57:59 01/23/11 (0)
- RE: Wow - DrChaos 14:24:23 01/19/11 (1)
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- RE: Peter, please... - IEaudiodude 07:21:49 01/21/11 (1)
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- RE: Wow - ahendler 13:34:28 01/19/11 (9)
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