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I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman

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Posted on August 4, 2022 at 13:44:42
B. Scarpia



Elvon Azimuth/VTA -
I've been sighting along a business card to get to cartridge top parallel then adjust VTA from there but I'm a sucker for orange lines so I ordered it.

10 BUcks shipped from Ali-express

 

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RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 4, 2022 at 14:10:17
geoff
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 I have one from another manufacturer, a nice device.

 

RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 4, 2022 at 14:38:40
Joe Backer
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Just used this one to setup my new arm. I think the level is invaluable.

 

RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 4, 2022 at 15:46:13
geoff
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 That's the one that I bought.

 

RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 5, 2022 at 00:16:34
theophile
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 Wally from Wallytractors was the first person to produce one like that that I know about. Who knows. He may have borrowed the idea from elsewhere.

Wally's version didn't have a level if I recall correctly.

 

I just bought one, posted on August 5, 2022 at 03:15:32
hawkmoon
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 Thanks for posting!

 

Thanks for the heads up, just ordered one...., posted on August 5, 2022 at 04:54:14
Ozzy
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 ..
Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
- Winston Churchill

 

A very handy item., posted on August 5, 2022 at 05:43:08
tketcham
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 I've been using one for years and find it very useful for tonearm/cartridge setup. Had not considered using it for azimuth adjustment like Joe suggested, but it's a great idea.

Tom

 

sorry, you get ripped off, posted on August 5, 2022 at 07:17:34
bouncy ball
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 just kidding. It is a nice tool.

 

RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 5, 2022 at 07:27:53
miner42
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 A great tool to have at your disposal

 

RE: Maybe, but it isn't easy being Green, posted on August 5, 2022 at 07:28:54
B. Scarpia
 I do prefer the orange lines but am less happy to have registered with Ali-Express. Returning to their website and logging in requires more obstacles than I'm willing to deal with.

And now, in addition to my long-standing file with the FBI, likely I'm known to the MSS ;-}

 

Thanks, ordered that. Beats the db systems lined cardboard I've been using for decades. nt nt, posted on August 5, 2022 at 11:10:49
Rick W
 nt

 

wait a sec....., posted on August 5, 2022 at 14:21:04
NuWave
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 aren't we supposed to be setting VTA by ear? At least that's what some riff raff in here told me :-)

 

RE: Speaking on behalf of my fellow Riff-Raff..., posted on August 5, 2022 at 14:55:59
B. Scarpia
 And as one who's been loud on the subject of ears (see what I did there?) it's good to have a starting point.

 

RE: Speaking on behalf of my fellow Riff-Raff..., posted on August 5, 2022 at 15:47:13
NuWave
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 My starting point is always parallel and then I....ok I admit it, i just leave it at that. I've swapped in many a cartridge lately and haven't adjusted it one bit, maybe they are all the same height? I suppose I could mess with it but i'm not sure what i'm listening for.

 

I'll be your huckleberry, posted on August 5, 2022 at 16:08:21
beach cruiser
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 I have to admit, if you don't know what you are looking for, positive results will be a bit tougher to secure.
In addition, the harder one tries to hear an effect, the more the brain wants to make crap up and move on.

However, if you have the ability to more the vta during play, once you sweep the general angle, the correct setting will pop out, as correct. I mostly leave such fine tuning for special occasions, like when I crack open a new record of special quality.

personally I think the gizmo is trying to apply a finite solution to a variable situation.

However it does open up the possibility to sell a version for 200 gram, records, 180 gram records, and a deluxe set to cover all the different cutter head angles used through the years, with a little approximately disclaimer on the back, in fine print, so as not to spoil the fun.

 

RE: I saw this useful looking gadget in a post at Hoffman, posted on August 8, 2022 at 11:13:53
gadio4533
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 Good find, thank you. Just ordered one.

 

$12.99 at Amazon, posted on June 30, 2023 at 17:33:14
M3Man
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 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4D4F5T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

When I first got it, it showed that the arm on my VPI Prime had drooped. It was a problem with some early printed arms. They quickly sent me a replacement, which retails for $2000.

So this device is really worth 2 grand! what a bargain.

I thought about buying a microscope and measuring angles. Instead I just use this thing to get it level and tweak by ear from there.

 

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