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Loudness/tone control, why I like them.

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Posted on June 23, 2022 at 02:45:27
cellailuca
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I found out the frequency response (up to 14 KHz, my actual hearing limit) that suits me fine with my tube/SS audio gear for listening at an average ambient level of 75-85 dB SPL.
For the enquiring minds that would love to investigate if they need somthing similar I attach the three basic figures that sum up the reasons why there is a hearing loss in ambient bass and high reproduction.


Omnes feriunt, ultima necat.

 

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I like them too..., posted on June 24, 2022 at 16:03:39
Triode_Kingdom
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 ...but they need to be switchable. My ongoing preamp project includes unity-gain James controls that can be switched out. How else to easily accomplish not only some semblance of loudness compensation but also correction for room conditions?



 

never understood the disdain for tone controls... like any other profession... pathetic engineers exist nT, posted on June 23, 2022 at 06:29:33
Cleantimestream
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RE: never understood the disdain for tone controls... like any other profession... pathetic engineers exist nT, posted on June 23, 2022 at 08:39:39
Hornlover
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 I have found many CDs suffer from old master tapes. For instance, the album 'You', by Gong, needs the highs turned up a bit, as they are somewhat muffled compared to the LP from earlier years. The original CD of Genesis TLLDOB, the low frequencies were almost nonexistent, compared to the LP version. Having a way to adjust the frequency balance is handy.

 

RE: never understood the disdain for tone controls... like any other profession... pathetic engineers exist nT, posted on June 24, 2022 at 13:27:12
Stephen R
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 There's your problem right there; playing ceedees.

Lesson: no ceedees, no tone controls. Sorted.

 

RE: never understood the disdain for tone controls... like any other profession... pathetic engineers exist nT, posted on June 28, 2022 at 08:50:07
Hornlover
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 ?? whatever....

 

Ah yes, cultural humour differences. Oh well ... nt, posted on June 29, 2022 at 01:51:39
Stephen R
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 nt

 

RE: Loudness/tone control, why I like them., posted on June 23, 2022 at 03:16:37
Story
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 they've known about this since the 50's but I don't agree with the word 'limit' like your hearing at 14k drops like a stone. I'm not an audiologist but I would think it diminishes swiftly after that. Mine is 16k left, 14kright.

I have dynamic woofers on my electrotats below 100hz and they are the only thing that needs a boost at low volumes, like in the morning when I play music at 60-65db. That's why they call them dynamic speakers with a need to be pushed to respond best

My ears are the most sensitive in the morning and relaxed STS. A sound that's loud to me in the morning becomes normal soon after as the day progresses. Vacuums are too loud period and I always have something to muffle the volume. My wife on the other hand uses one every morning and I run to the hills

So at low volumes I turn the bass up a bit, that's it



 

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