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Posted on March 6, 2017 at 06:24:25
LennyF
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I am exiting complex audio (my system is posted). I had original Rogers ls3/5a for many years, then upgraded to ProAc 1sc before moving to single driver HE speakers.

I am seriously downsizing, planning on getting a Nuprime IDA-8. I hope to get the Harbeth p3esr, Spendor s3/5r2, or equivalent. I want small, but not a little shouter. Tone and clarity, esp. at lower volumes or off axis, is what's important. I'll be using a small SVS subwoofer. Oh, and I'd prefer it not to be back ported, as they'll be pretty close to the wall.

What other speakers should I consider? Any feedback appreciated!
Lenny

 

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Anthony Gallo Acoustics Strada, posted on March 6, 2017 at 07:26:51
Charlie8521
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Does that make sense? Small, compact, good reviews, not expensive, and I think you said you already have a sub. I always wanted to try a pair.

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 6, 2017 at 08:04:29
krankkall
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Try to find a small pair of ROR speakers.
They were made in Flushing, NY from around 1972 to the late 80's.
NYCs Crazy Eddie sold them for serious $$$$ back then.
Many ended up in recording studios as small monitors.
My pair were 4 ohm, had a 4" woofer, a 4" drone cone, and a 1" textile dome Peerless tweeter.
All wood veneer, even around the drivers and the back.
I bought my pair on flea-bay 10 years ago for $40.
VERY hard to find, but well worth it when you do.

Steve

 

Merlin TSMs (nt), posted on March 6, 2017 at 08:41:07
DKL
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RE: don't forget ATC, posted on March 6, 2017 at 13:40:08
BigguyinATL
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SCM7 or if my money... give the "Pro" SCM20ASL a try... Power amps built in - no synergy worries...

Or give the JBL705i or P a try - you pay an extra Grand for the powered versions. These are new - but the waveguide will really help your off axis requirements.


"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat" - Confucius

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 6, 2017 at 14:27:08
BCR
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You won't go wrong with the Harbeth or the Spendor. I have owned both. IMO,the Harbeth is the best of the LS3/5A type of speaker! Here is a review!

 

RE: Anthony Gallo Acoustics Strada or CL-2s, posted on March 6, 2017 at 15:41:55
bigshow
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I have heard the CL-2s which were great. No crossover like the Stradas. I haven't heard the Stradas, which have a great rep. CL-2s more conventional looking. I'm putting together a small room den system and that is probably the way I'll go.
bigshow

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 6, 2017 at 18:07:45
Jim Griffin
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Consider products from Salk Sound located in southern Michigan. They have two small monitor products (Their WOW1 and Jeff Bagby's Continuum design) that are excellent and would be great with your sub woofer. Salk is a direct manufacturer and seller so you have to wait for your selection to be built. But you can get exactly what you want with real wood veneers enclosures. Look over their web site for what they can do for you.


www.salksound.com/

http://www.salksound.com/model.php?model=WOW1

http://www.salksound.com/model.php?model=Bagby%20Continuum

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?board=82.0

Other models can be had including their Song series of speakers. Jim Salk is available to address your needs.




 

Check out the Genelecs, posted on March 6, 2017 at 18:11:40
MannyE
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If you're slimming down, then these self powered speakers may be just what you are looking for. If you consider the fact that you can sell all the amplification, the price makes more sense.

I love them to bits. I don't know anything about the home speakers but those studio monitors are amazing.

 

minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 6, 2017 at 18:44:16
LennyF
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Hmm...
Lenny

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 7, 2017 at 13:47:38
Jack D II
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Audition if hyou can the Reference 3A Dulcet. Several comments on AA.

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 10, 2017 at 12:40:30
mfaz28
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Kef LS-50's are supposed to be a reincarnation/improvement of the LS3/5a ? No?

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 10, 2017 at 17:40:15
BCR
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No!

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 10, 2017 at 21:00:40
acedrywallerx1
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check out fritz speakers incredible sound easy to work with ive updated several components to fully realize the potential sound it is well worth it

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 11, 2017 at 14:34:10
Doublej
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Here are a couple of flyers for consideration...

http://hsuresearch.com/products/ccb-8.html

http://www.sequerra.com/electronics/data/index.htm

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 12, 2017 at 12:38:43
A.Wayne
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Sonus faber Electa amators

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 13, 2017 at 19:59:53
russ69
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I guess I'm the only one to say it. Don't down size to mini-monitors. Small towers take up the same floor space and work much better. How about a nice pair of B&Ws from BestBuy?

 

current list and update, posted on March 14, 2017 at 04:51:53
LennyF
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I got the Nuprime -- so far, it's great. Now to reconsider speakers...

There were a number of interesting suggestions. Here's my current list:

Sealed:
Harbeth p3esr $2,199 12Hx7.5Wx7.5D
spendor sr/5r2 $1,595 12x6.5x7.5
Bagby Continuum $1,295 12x6.5x7
amphion one15 $2,000 12.5x6.3x10.3

ported
Salk Wow1 front $1,295 12.5x7x9
ref 3a dulcet rear $1,999 10.75x7x9
audio note AX2 rear $1,000 15x9x9

I'm leaning to the Harbeth, based upon a variety of posts, reviews, etc. Next would be the Bagby, which may end up as my first choice. The Spendor has the driver front mounted on the front baffle -- does that matter? The other ls35a descendents have it back mounted as per the original.

Salk Wow1 seems very interesting - my take is that it's a more 'complete' spkr than the Bagby, but perhaps without the tonal characteristics that make those spkrs special.

Blumenstein makes some interesting single driver spkrs with fostex drivers, but I want to move away from single driver.

Still looking!


Lenny

 

+1, posted on March 14, 2017 at 07:11:16
Inmate51
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Towers, not minis.

Minis make sense on or behind a table/work-surface/console, but on stands in an open area (with one or two subs to produce the low end), you're better off with a well-designed tower. Polk might have something you like, or maybe Revel/Harman. The Revel Salon 2 would be the tits, but I think they go for about $15K a pair. (I don't remember if you stated a budget in your post.)

:)

 

RE: current list and update, posted on March 14, 2017 at 09:28:42
BCR
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What LS3/5A decendent has the driver rear mounted? I've never seen that!

 

RE: current list and update, posted on March 14, 2017 at 12:31:46
russ69
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I think he means port.

 

minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 14, 2017 at 19:29:50
LennyF
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sorry - mounted on the rear of the front baffle vs mounted on the front of the front baffle -- look at a spendor and a harbeth and you'll see what I mean
Lenny

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 15, 2017 at 05:53:20
BCR
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You got me,I'm baffled! If you want a true reproduction,here it is! BTW,I own both the Harbeth and the Spendor and they are outstanding speakers!

 

RE: minimonitor recommendations requested, posted on March 15, 2017 at 07:46:06
Inmate51
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Yeah, mounted on the front versus the back of the front baffle makes a difference, at least in theory. Whether or not it matters in practice depends on the size of the driver and the frequency range which it covers, as well as the thickness of the baffle. Harry Olson described all this back in the 1950s in either "Acoustical Engineering" or "Music, Physics and Engineering". (I could look it up, but I'm comfortable in my chair at the moment.) Basically, with the rear mount, you've got a radiator radiating into a very short pipe. But I hope the designers know that and have determined that it's okay. (Or, maybe not.)

Still, as Russ69 pointed out, and I agreed with, you should be looking at towers.

:)

 

true repro not wanted, posted on March 15, 2017 at 09:50:56
LennyF
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After 14 years with the original Rogers (vintage 1977, 15ohm) I got Proac 1sc and was astounded at the clarity of the treble range and the detail throughout. But it also sounded harder, and took some system matching to get it in balance.

So I'm hoping that the current evolutions, not copies, resolve those shortcoming while retaing the strengths of the original.

At the moment, I'm finding the Bagby very appealing, but feel the Harbeth is the 'safe' choice.
Lenny

 

RE: true repro not wanted, posted on March 18, 2017 at 12:51:19
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great choice.

I had Amphion one18 but sold them. I still have Jeff bagby continuum, P3ESR, SCM7 V3 and KEF LS50.

the continuum, P3's and the scm7 imo needs a sub. the one15 would also need a sub. LS50 do not.

if you have the enough money, id go with the P3ESR.

if you have 1.5k only, id probably take scm7 + sub. if you have no sub, and have only 1k for budget, id go with LS50.


 

Bagby vs P3, posted on March 22, 2017 at 06:15:49
LennyF
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Thx for the info -- very helpful, as you own the two I'm most interested in. (and have a sub, so no issue there)

I wonder if you could characterize the bagby vs the p3? And also wonder what amp you're using..
Lenny

 

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