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New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker

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Posted on January 3, 2017 at 11:53:05
tincup
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The new 100% Zylon-Based Speakers, the Yamaha NS-5000's will soon be on the market here.

 

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RE: New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker, posted on January 3, 2017 at 12:50:56
hahax@verizon.net
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Sounds like a very interesting speaker, a new NS1000? But I note there is only a statement and no explanation of how it's like a musical instrument. I suspect this is advertising BS to attract those who don't know much about speaker design. Too bad if it does turn out to be a modern NS1000 then the advertising BS may hinder its acceptance from those who know better.

 

Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 12:52:02
G Squared
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See National Institute of Justice report

 

RE: New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker, posted on January 3, 2017 at 14:04:43
tincup
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I think what Yamaha is saying by this statement is their new Zylon-Based speakers can project the music into the room more like real Musical instruments do.

 

Mebbe but they didn't say that, did they? , posted on January 3, 2017 at 14:26:31
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The phrase seems to be filler unless they link it to something functional.

 

I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 3, 2017 at 16:34:38
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Not very low for a good 12" design.

 

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 16:36:39
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"When there was no potential for external moisture to contact Zylon® yarns, there was no significant change in the tensile strength of these yarns. External moisture may be necessary to facilitate the degradation of Zylon® fibers."

Keep your speakers dry!





 

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 17:02:18
tincup
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The Zylon fibers are coated

 

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 3, 2017 at 17:30:11
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I would guess that asked on what I read.
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"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

 

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 4, 2017 at 09:16:41
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"Sensitivity is rated at 88 dB/W/m and the company rates frequency response at 26 Hz to 40 kHz (-10 dB)."

Well, that's the rating given in the article. That is pretty good bass extension for a small speaker.

PSB rates bass extension at -10 dB, too, and I consider it a good rating for the limit of useful bass in an normal home.
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RE: "musical instrument", posted on January 12, 2017 at 20:11:20
thump
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well, if they're ported and don't have any acoustuffing, then they have a resonant chamber not unlike an acoustic guitar except for whatever contouring they're doing to minimize standing waves which could also be considered a form of tuning. that could be one way to justify the analogy.

other brands like harbeth, audionote & devore fidelity have also designed speakers with lighter cabinets designed to resonate like musical instruments too.

it's easy to make the case that ALL loudspeakers are "musical instruments"

 

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 13, 2017 at 08:44:08
mrdavis842
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Yikes, not for me then. I like to soak mine in the bath tub once a year (disconnected of course). I noticed after a good soaking speakers do not unbreak-in after not being played for a while.

 

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 13, 2017 at 09:16:27
Inmate51
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"26 - 40 Hz" is almost an octave (without looking, I think it's about a major sixth). And, -10 dB is, at mid-frequencies, subjectively half volume level. Even more at low frequencies. An astute observer would conclude that the "specs" are a bit useless, maybe even a little misleading.

:)

 

First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 8, 2017 at 18:59:31
tincup
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The first review on these Yamaha ns-5000's are a real ear opener! Yamaha has done it again!

 

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 10, 2017 at 16:09:35
bare
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Again!? When did Yama do it the First time??

 

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 10, 2017 at 18:25:40
tincup
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The first time was with their Soavo NS F901's that are still on the market here for only $$$4000 a pair.

 

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 11, 2017 at 13:17:52
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So other than a forward upper midrange and floppy bass its good ?

 

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 13, 2017 at 14:32:45
tincup
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As you can see in this thread below the $$$5000 Yamaha Soavo f901's gets you very close to the audio performance of the new $15000 Yamaha ns 5000's!

The Law Of Diminishing Returns ?..!

 

Live Concert time, posted on June 4, 2017 at 14:34:44
tincup
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Please take your seats, the Live Concert is about to start

 

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