New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker

RE: New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker, posted on January 3, 2017 at 12:50:56
hahax@verizon.net Audiophile Posts: 4306 Location: New Jersey Joined: March 22, 2006	Sounds like a very interesting speaker, a new NS1000? But I note there is only a statement and no explanation of how it's like a musical instrument. I suspect this is advertising BS to attract those who don't know much about speaker design. Too bad if it does turn out to be a modern NS1000 then the advertising BS may hinder its acceptance from those who know better.

Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 12:52:02

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RE: New Zylon-Based Speakers that is more like a Musical Instrument than a Speaker, posted on January 3, 2017 at 14:04:43
tincup Audiophile Posts: 234 Joined: August 20, 2016	I think what Yamaha is saying by this statement is their new Zylon-Based speakers can project the music into the room more like real Musical instruments do.

Mebbe but they didn't say that, did they? , posted on January 3, 2017 at 14:26:31
Kal Rubinson Reviewer Posts: 12436 Location: New York Joined: June 5, 2002	The phrase seems to be filler unless they link it to something functional.

I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 3, 2017 at 16:34:38
Frank E Audiophile Posts: 726 Joined: May 20, 2000	Not very low for a good 12" design.

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 16:36:39
Ivan303 Audiophile Posts: 48887 Location: Cadiere d'azur FRANCE - Santa Fe, NM Joined: February 26, 2001	"When there was no potential for external moisture to contact Zylon® yarns, there was no significant change in the tensile strength of these yarns. External moisture may be necessary to facilitate the degradation of Zylon® fibers." Keep your speakers dry! First they came for the dumb-asses And I did not speak out Because I was not a dumb-ass

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 3, 2017 at 17:02:18

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The Zylon fibers are coated

http://www.avhub.com.au/features/sound-image/yamaha-ns-5000-

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 3, 2017 at 17:30:11
Awe-d-o-file Dealer Posts: 21037 Location: 50 miles west of DC Joined: January 10, 2004	I would guess that asked on what I read. ET "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 4, 2017 at 09:16:41
Pat D Audiophile Posts: 12506 Location: Fredericton NB Joined: June 20, 2000	"Sensitivity is rated at 88 dB/W/m and the company rates frequency response at 26 Hz to 40 kHz (-10 dB)." Well, that's the rating given in the article. That is pretty good bass extension for a small speaker. PSB rates bass extension at -10 dB, too, and I consider it a good rating for the limit of useful bass in an normal home. ----- "A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser

RE: "musical instrument", posted on January 12, 2017 at 20:11:20

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well, if they're ported and don't have any acoustuffing, then they have a resonant chamber not unlike an acoustic guitar except for whatever contouring they're doing to minimize standing waves which could also be considered a form of tuning. that could be one way to justify the analogy.

other brands like harbeth, audionote & devore fidelity have also designed speakers with lighter cabinets designed to resonate like musical instruments too.

it's easy to make the case that ALL loudspeakers are "musical instruments"

RE: Hope the degradation issue has been resolved, posted on January 13, 2017 at 08:44:08
mrdavis842 Audiophile Posts: 274 Joined: February 22, 2013	Yikes, not for me then. I like to soak mine in the bath tub once a year (disconnected of course). I noticed after a good soaking speakers do not unbreak-in after not being played for a while.

RE: I wonder if the FR of 26Hz is at -10dB?, posted on January 13, 2017 at 09:16:27
Inmate51	"26 - 40 Hz" is almost an octave (without looking, I think it's about a major sixth). And, -10 dB is, at mid-frequencies, subjectively half volume level. Even more at low frequencies. An astute observer would conclude that the "specs" are a bit useless, maybe even a little misleading. :)

First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 8, 2017 at 18:59:31

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The first review on these Yamaha ns-5000's are a real ear opener! Yamaha has done it again!

http://www.livingsound.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Yam

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 10, 2017 at 16:09:35
bare Audiophile Posts: 1879 Joined: April 14, 2009	Again!? When did Yama do it the First time??

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 10, 2017 at 18:25:40

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The first time was with their Soavo NS F901's that are still on the market here for only $$$4000 a pair.

http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/index.php/loudspeakers/65-review

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 11, 2017 at 13:17:52
bradluke0 Audiophile Posts: 151 Location: cental fl Joined: February 14, 2010	So other than a forward upper midrange and floppy bass its good ?

RE: First Review on these NS-5000's are a Real Ear Opener!, posted on May 13, 2017 at 14:32:45

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As you can see in this thread below the $$$5000 Yamaha Soavo f901's gets you very close to the audio performance of the new $15000 Yamaha ns 5000's!

The Law Of Diminishing Returns ?..!

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/yamaha-ns

Live Concert time, posted on June 4, 2017 at 14:34:44

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Please take your seats, the Live Concert is about to start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym_4cBHyoA

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