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Warning for year 2001 rejected AVVT tubes on Ebay!

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Posted on January 20, 2017 at 14:35:21
EML
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I have no interest in this, but it is just too painful what I see happening here. I can't warn the whole world, but at least I can warn Audioasylum readers here.

In the year 2000 and 2001, AVVT had complete series of mesh tubes with bad cathode problems. They were initially good, and stayed good for a few hundred hours. After that, emission begins to reduce, due to cathode problems. So no gas problems. First slowly, and then faster. In 2001 I identified those tubes from my stock, and we gave the back for destruction. I have filed all series numbers and all data along with it, and I still have those files.

It appears now, Alesa did not destroy them, as in 2016 first pairs were sold via Ebay, also Ebay small adds, and this doesn't seem to stop. Prices are really crazy, like 2000$ for a pair. You wouldn't want to be that buyer.

I decided to make those bad series numbers public, and they are filed at the AVVT website, same as we used at that time. This website is now only an archive, I still own the site since 16 years. I never changed a word to keep it a real arhive, but I thought it was only fair to add those bad series numbers there. (See the link below here)

 

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RE: Warning for year 2001 rejected AVVT tubes on Ebay!, posted on January 20, 2017 at 19:58:31
johnsonad
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Thank you Jac. It's sad to see this happening.

 

Thanks. Dodged a bullet! it , posted on January 21, 2017 at 07:42:40
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Big J

"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."


 

RE: Warning for year 2001 rejected AVVT tubes on Ebay!, posted on January 21, 2017 at 08:04:55
GEO
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Yes...i remember those days....the tubes took down some expensive drivers.

 

Thanks, posted on January 21, 2017 at 10:44:03
Jay Buridan
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Seller must be a scumbag !!!

 

RE: Warning for year 2001 rejected AVVT tubes on Ebay!, posted on January 21, 2017 at 15:53:14
Frihed89
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I have some mesh plate 2A3s. I downloaded the list, but haven't checked my tubes against the list, yet...too much anxiety. They have gone over the 100 hr threshold, but I really can't say by how much.

 

Email response from seller, posted on January 22, 2017 at 18:00:08
Tre'
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I looked up the serial numbers and sent him this message,

Did you know that the tube on the left (serial #5122) is defective as per the maker? The archived website has the list.

His response,

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No I did know that. I bought from one guy who told me that the tubes are fine.
The tubes are not for sale anymore!


Tre'
















Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"

 

Maybe the seller was scammed?, posted on January 24, 2017 at 13:13:31
jusbe
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It's possible.


Big J

"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."


 

True, posted on January 24, 2017 at 13:54:51
Jay Buridan
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Or he may have alternative facts :)

 

Fake news strikes again!, posted on January 24, 2017 at 15:04:24
jusbe
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Sorry. Couldn't resist.


Big J

"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."


 

RE: Warning for year 2001 rejected AVVT tubes on Ebay!, posted on February 17, 2017 at 10:44:55
Ed Sawyer
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Thanks for the info, Jac! Most useful.

There's a pair of AVVT AV20s on ebay now, that were originally mine (14 years ago!), being sold out of Poland. They are good tubes as far as I know, not on Jac's list but they came from him originally. I never used them but they are listed as being sold to me originally (which is the case). I can give the lineage to anyone who needs it, it's convoluted.

-Ed

 

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