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cPlay - the open source high-end audio player using ASIO

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Posted on May 5, 2008 at 12:31:58
cics
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cPlay

The open source high-end audio player using ASIO

May 2008

cPlay delivers high quality audio playback using ASIO 2. Playback is achieved using any ASIO compatible soundcard. cPlay is a minimalist audio player using the latest high quality SRC resampler (Best Sinc SNR 145.68db or 121.33db) or SoX (VHQ or HQ). cPlay's design offers state-of-the-art ASIO-only playback and caters for touch screen users. Installation, setup and use is easy. cPlay is built in c/c++ and operates on Windows XP SP2 Professional (32 bit).

FEATURES

  1. Resampling is sourced from LibSampleRate (version 0.1.5) and SoX 14.2.0 under GNU GPL license. LibSampleRate is aka SRC (Secret Rabbit Code) and supersedes the version as used in foobar2000. Best Sinc converter now offers a SNR of 145.68db or 121.33db (versus 97db). SoX VHQ offers better than 170db SNR. Resampling is bypassed when input rate matches output.

  2. Supports Steinberg's excellent ASIO 2 and is backward compatible to prior ASIO versions (as required by ASIO drivers).

  3. Offers high quality 64 bit double precision digital volume control (in 0.5db steps). This can be bypassed.

  4. Playback is achieved through .cue, .wav or .flac files. cPlay loads entire .wav or .flac (decoded) into RAM before starting. Playback is done directly from cPlay's internal buffer. Cue playback requires .cue files as created by EAC (single or multi file standard).

  5. Ensures efficient CPU resource utilization allowing for low specification processors or high levels of upsampling. This means CPUs can be underclocked / undervolted.

  6. Supports up to 3 ASIO soundcards with each having up to 100 output channels.

  7. Advanced optimizations are applied (if available from ASIO driver) during playback.

  8. Best results achieved when using cMP (i.e. cMP²). This allows for low level Windows optimizations. Use cMP release 1.0 final or later as this allows for bypassing RAM load in cMP (set RAM Load in cMP Settings to No) otherwise wav file is RAM loaded twice. cPlay allows for both svchost and lsass to be suspended during playback thus reducing the Windows footprint. Only exception is EMU's ASIO driver which requires both (svchost and lsass) to be operational. Set cMP's Optimize setting to Critical.

  9. Full remote control is achieved with cMP: offering volume control, track navigation, next/previous and stop/eject via (wireless) mouse.

USER MANUAL

Visit cMP² website (http://www.cicsMemoryPlayer.com) for more details and setup.

Screen Shot




GETTING STARTED

Download cPlay's installer here (1.3MB). Installation and startup is straight forward.

If you don't have an ASIO compatible soundcard, use ASIO4ALL. Note that ASIO4ALL does not support channel mapping (use default) and rarely handles above 48k sample rate.

Your feedback will help guide cPlay's future development. Source code (4.1MB) is available via email.

 

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About Mihaylov's Tweak, posted on October 26, 2011 at 04:07:05
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Hello, inmates! The tweak is splendid, as it helps to finish windows' tweaking. I would be carefull with 1252.nls file. Don't remove it for english version of OS, also screen fonts - *.fon files are slightly different for the original version of Windows. Also, Serge proposes to delete wdmaud.drv. Serge! Is it drv or SYS file? How does Juli@ work without it. Lynx users, DON'T delet portculis.sys.
I haven't done all the tweak, as I am almost at the same level of windows castration, but what I DID works fine, so Hats off to Mihaylov!
The difference will be posted soon as tweaks part 22.

 

Now, help me, please!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 04:20:17
steppe
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Inmates! To finish with windows tweaking at last, I suggest to (finally) revert to start cmp not start xp mode of cmp. This way several very dirty and important files can be removed at last. I know that in the frenzy of removing I have removed some file that is necessary for start cmp option to work. Someone here even killed his cmp because of this file. So my plea is WHAT FILEs are necessary to start cmp from boot up? Also, Does CMP allow to RESTART, not shutdown computer.
Please, help me find the fileS necessary. Is it shutdown.exe? Any other file?
Serge

 

RE: Now, help me, please!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 04:51:46
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My memory indicates you need at least winspool.drv plus shutdown.exe. Maybe more but I dont recall any others.

 

RE: New Tweaks part 20, posted on October 26, 2011 at 05:02:19
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Hi Serge. Doesn't mouse.drv eliminate mouse function? Also what functions do you you still use? For example mouse, I know you dont use keyboard, anything else?

 

RE: About Mihaylov's Tweak, posted on October 26, 2011 at 05:46:38
Mihaylov
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= Also, Serge proposes to delete wdmaud.drv. Serge! Is it drv or SYS file? =
- It's drv from folder system32. wdmaud.sys is removed for a long time already.
= How does Juli@ work without it. =
- Fine! Neither cPlay, nor cMP do not use these files. See screenshots here http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/9/97337.html

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Now, help me, please!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 06:00:12
Mihaylov
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Here these files




Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Theo, go ahead!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 08:01:01
theob
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I did the cat root deletions and loved it but after all the drivers I somehow lost mouse cursor. So what do I need in the last driver list to maintain mouse point & click function I did leave all the stuff like hid*** you recommended but still lost mouse.

 

RE: Theo, go ahead!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 08:31:35
theob
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Ummm maybe mssmbios I'll try it

 

RE: Corrected My Tweak, posted on October 26, 2011 at 08:47:47
theob
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It was i804prt.sys because I use ps/2 port not usb. I'm back in business. Although I have to say I left mssmbios in also.

 

Finished Mahaylov My Tweak except for registry and stuff after drivers...big way to go Mahaylov!!!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 09:02:39
theob
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...and it is a sonic wonder. Very nice. Windows now is 88mb not bad and a ways away from 50mb but I'm getting there.

A big way to go Mahaylov.

 

It is reg.exe, posted on October 26, 2011 at 09:08:56
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I had this same problem. Could not remember exactly but I remember someone mentioning this so I re-inserted reg.exe and I can start in cMP!

 

Do not delete i8042prt.sys if using a PS2 mouse, posted on October 26, 2011 at 09:15:43
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I use a PS2 mouse at the suggestion of Grant (the great Canadian) who opines that this way you can disable all USB devices in BIOS.

As all of these mods require some sacrifice, one does have to reset BIOS to get USB services back but how often will that happen?

I have been doing this and find it better.

I deleted this file last night with the last group of MIHAYLOV's drivers suggestions and lost the mouse. As soon as it happened I thought that "port" part of the name was the clue and sure enough that is what it does.

 

AUTORUNS as a way to edit BIOS after deleting reg.exe, posted on October 26, 2011 at 09:26:22
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I have found this to be the way to go after you lose your start button or RUN entirely.

Just double click on any entry and it takes you to REGISTRY EDITOR. Of course, depending on where you click will take you to THAT part of the registry but easy enough to find your way.

Of course, without the keyboard you can only delete entries. Easy enough to put the keyboard back if it is needed.

AUTORUNS is really a great tool. Thanks to MIHAYLOV for reminding us of this.

 

CAREFUL..!!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 09:59:52
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While following the deletion route, I strongly advise inmates NOT to move anything out of the Win_SxS folder. After a long analysis, I find that it's files have a direct impact on the Sonics. If anybody needs to mingle with it, do it in the End. Keep it as the last tweak. Also I suggest not to move it's files to any separate folder, but rather delete them into the Recycle Bin, so that they can be restored back to their exact locations if needed (as their filenames are too long, & one could easile be mistaken where to restore what)..

Junaid

 

Funny how many of these have already been deleted, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:05:36
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Serge,

You machine must be re-installing files!

 

RE: Theo, go ahead!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:17:34
Mihaylov
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And the usb port to which the mouse connected works?

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Theo, go ahead!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:28:50
theob
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Dont use usb mouse but did find the culprit ...i8042prt...I use ps/2 for mouse and monitor.

 

I agree good sq pop to put back in. nt, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:29:57
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RE: I agree good sq pop to put back in. nt, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:34:52
Jolida
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With those files deleted, the bass definition & body of instruments decline. But the Seperation increases. It's a matter of careful mix-n-match, best left for the final fine-tuning stage..

Junaid

 

Rick can you still cut and paste? nt, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:42:16
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RE: Theo, go ahead!, posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:54:03
Mihaylov
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OK. The solution is found. Thanks to Rick.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

Have not tried ..., posted on October 26, 2011 at 11:32:44
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Doing my "editing" at another computer so I do not do anything but play music and AUTORUNS at the music computer.

 

RE: Have not tried ..., posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:17:03
theob
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So you load new music onto hdd via another computer?

 

For quite awhile now, posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:40:05
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since I have never connected the music computer to the internet AND after finding how nice it is to have the titles of the songs filled in I have been using my regular computer for that so I can use the database.

I leave the panel off so I have easy access to the sata cable and a power connection. This also has come in handy for file deletions and making the SNAPSHOTS. Finally got a copy and find it works perfectly. Thanks for the recommendation (If I have not already thanked you).

 

RE: For quite awhile now, posted on October 26, 2011 at 12:45:43
theob
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Thanks my cmp is not internet connected either but for new music I run EAC on my home computer then save the data on a thumb drive which I then plug into my cmp and cut & paste onto a cmp hdd. But no can do now. Now we both know why other smart guys (Ryelands, Mihaylov) use a network.

 

My network is my legs, posted on October 26, 2011 at 14:31:39
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I am not convinced of the need for a network.

The idea of a minimal computer (not the same as minimal operating system) is intriguing but I like the upsampler within cPLAY so I am sticking with what I have.

The old story of there being more than one way to skin a cat, or any other animal for that matter.

 

setupapi.log, posted on October 26, 2011 at 14:51:29
Mihaylov
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The file setupapi.log will form anew by the system (by the file setupapi.dll) after removal. That the size of this file did not increase with each loading of system it is necessary to delete all its content in a notepad, and then to specify "only for reading" in properties of this file.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Corrected My Tweak, posted on October 26, 2011 at 15:55:21
theob
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Ok I am done with My Tweak except for the .nls files and the fonts. Does anyone know what we need and what we can delete?

 

My Tweak 2, posted on October 26, 2011 at 19:06:12
Mihaylov
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I want to offer the My Tweak 2 in addition to My Tweak. My Tweak 2 include the files and folders from Steppe's Tweaks parts 17-20 missing in My Tweak and applicable for my network configuration and also more files.
It is necessary to remove following files and folders:

x86_policy.5.1.Microsoft.Windows.SystemCompatible_6595b64144ccf1df_x-ww_a0111510
x86_policy.7.0.Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_x-ww_a317e4b3
$winnt$.inf
12520437.cpx
12520850.cpx
activeds.tlb
alg.exe
amcompat.tlb
AUTOEXEC.NT
bios1.rom
bios4.rom
bootstat.dat
cdplayer.exe.manifest
chkntfs.exe
command.com
CONFIG.NT
CONFIG.TMP
dcomcnfg.exe
desktop.ini
dssec.dat
dwintl.dll
ega.cpi
emptyregdb.dat
esentprf.hxx
graphics.pro
h323log.txt
himem.sys
ipxroute.exe
JulaPAN.exe
key01.sys
krnl386.exe
login.cmd
logonui.exe.manifest
mqoa.tlb
mqoa10.tlb
mqoa20.tlb
mqperf.ini
mqprfsym.h
mqtgsvc.exe
mscdexnt.exe
msdatsrc.tlb
msdtc.exe
msdtcprf.h
msdtcprf.ini
msg.exe
ncpa.cpl.manifest
net1.exe
netsh.exe
nscompat.tlb
ntimage.gif
ntio.sys
ntio404.sys
ntio411.sys
ntio412.sys
ntio804.sys
nwc.cpl.manifest
oembios.sig
pagefileconfig.vbs
perfc019.dat
perfd019.dat
perfh019.dat
perfi019.dat
pschdcnt.h
qappsrv.exe
rasctrnm.h
rasdial.exe
remotesp.tsp
reset.exe
rsaci.rat
rsvpcnts.h
sapi.cpl.manifest
secupd.sig
sfc_os.dll.orig
shadow.exe
stdole2.tlb
stdole32.tlb
tcpmon.ini
termcap
tskill.exe
tslabels.h
tslabels.ini
unimdm.tsp
v7vga.rom
wdl.trm
WindowsLogon.manifest
wpa.dbl
x86_Microsoft.Windows.SystemCompatible_6595b64144ccf1df_5.1.0.0_x-ww_fc342b0b.cat
x86_Microsoft.Windows.SystemCompatible_6595b64144ccf1df_5.1.0.0_x-ww_fc342b0b.Manifest
x86_Microsoft.Windows.SystemCompatible_6595b64144ccf1df_5.1.2600.2000_x-ww_bcc9a281.cat
x86_Microsoft.Windows.SystemCompatible_6595b64144ccf1df_5.1.2600.2000_x-ww_bcc9a281.Manifest




See all screenshots below.


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

I want an older SSE1 version of cPlay..Send me please.., posted on October 26, 2011 at 22:18:32
examan
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Who has cicsPlay 2.0b ~ 2.0b7 version?
I need cicsPlay for Pentium3 version.
I work a old Pentium3(sse1) notebook for music-center...

If who have cicsPlay for Pentium3 version, Please send me to mail...

Thank for your kindness..^^

 

RE: My Tweak 2, posted on October 26, 2011 at 22:30:28
Jolida
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Hi Mihaylov,
I would like to bring to your notice, that when following Ur screenshots, one has to be a bit careful in exactly replicating it. Mine needed more fonts than u have in Ur screenshot, & deleting them caused windows not to boot. Also I'm surprised how u r able to get Juli@ to work without ks.sys, drmk.sys & portclys.sys, as they are not in Ur Drivers folder. My Juli@ wouldn't work on deleting any one of these files...

Junaid

 

Source code?, posted on October 27, 2011 at 01:07:40
allanon
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Any way to find the last source code?
Is this an open source project?

 

There must be another one - restoring the above did not bring it back, posted on October 27, 2011 at 07:32:13
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Anyone have any idea which drivers the PS2 port needs?

Thanks,

 

I got it back with these 2, posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:02:32
theob
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Here is what I posted yesterday. I think it was msssm something something...check the link

 

RE: My Tweak 2, posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:07:49
Mihaylov
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My Juli (I use only digital part) works fine w/o ks.sys, drmk.sys & portclys.sys.
The list of used drivers at work of cMP and cPlay shown in the screenshot here http://www.AudioAsylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/9/97337.html (this screenshot was obtained in the system before removing any files).The files you specify is not listed. They are not used for playing audio so they are not needed. I do not understand the causes of your problems.
About fonts. To keep only those files in the Fonts folder are shown in the corresponding screenshot here http://www.AudioAsylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/9/96990.html. But replace the Russian files 8514fixr, 8514oemr, 8514sysr by the English files (if you use the English version of OS) 8514fixe, 8514oeme, 8514syse. I have already written about this.


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

Done with all the Steppe/Mihaylov tweaks, posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:12:07
theob
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There are a few exceptions. I left in usb stuff thinking I could load music via my thumb drive which I lost anyway for some other reason. Also left in some files per Jolida for sonic reasons...doesn't make sense but it works. Left in all WinSxs & I think taskman and a couple of others. Don't know how to load music other than taking out hdd's from cmp and loading them on my home pc but I am not going back.

Hats off to Serge and Serge...these tweaks make magnificient music...beautiful mermaid indeed.

 

RE: My Tweak 2, posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:19:36
Jolida
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Well well. That's quite strange. I too am using only the digital part of my Juli@, but removing any one of those files doesn't get it to work. Also, I did exactly the same with regards to fonts (replaced the 'r' with the ones with 'e') but my system refused to boot without vgaoem, & also did not allow me to delete few other font files as well.
Really strange though :)

Junaid

 

Thanks!!! don't know how I missed your post ..., posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:38:36
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I thought I read them all.

Thanks very much AGAIN!

I know you have tried to retain USB, but since the thumb drives won't work consider disabling it ALL in BIOS.

 

RE: My Tweak 2, posted on October 27, 2011 at 08:49:35
Mihaylov
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I do not know what to say. It is a pity :(.


Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Thanks!!! don't know how I missed your post ..., posted on October 27, 2011 at 09:52:35
theob
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If you still dont get your mouse back I remember a Mihalov post recommending to keep hid*** files in. I still have these in so they may be necessary too. Hid***are human interface device drivers or files.

 

RE: I want an older SSE1 version of cPlay..Send me please.., posted on October 28, 2011 at 02:06:15
examan
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I GET cplay 2.0b1 to 2.0b7 for PENTIUM3 OR SSE1 from Dave Bruce

I uploaded these files my blog

-> http://blog.naver.com/examanida/100141805852

if you need these files, come my blog and get these ^^

thank for Dave Bruce's kindness

 

Thanks!, posted on October 28, 2011 at 07:46:34
Mihaylov
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Thanks!

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

Must need something else. lost it last night, posted on October 28, 2011 at 08:01:26
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I have not deleted much of 13 and beyond, though I did go ahead and delete the files of MIHAYLOV #2 (except for the ones he said to not delete and the two drivers the PS2 port needs).

Did some folder re-arranging with the BOLD FORTUNE batch files.

Tried to run AUTORUNS and it cannot find it or something to that effect.

Anyone know which files AUTORUNS needs?

Thanks,

 

autoruns.exe uses these files in my setup, posted on October 28, 2011 at 08:46:26
Hi Rick,

I checked with proces explorer.
In my setup autoruns.exe uses these files:
Look from this line: "Process: autoruns.exe Pid: 1444" and beyond.

Process PID CPU Private Bytes Working Set Description Company Name
System Idle Process 0 97.01 0 K 16 K
System 4 1.49 0 K 208 K
Interrupts n/a < 0.01 0 K 0 K Hardware Interrupts and DPCs
smss.exe 404 164 K 364 K Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation
csrss.exe 452 0.75 1.428 K 2.784 K Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
winlogon.exe 476 5.680 K 1.660 K Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation
services.exe 520 1.604 K 3.308 K Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 720 1.424 K 3.596 K Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 816 5.376 K 6.860 K Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
winvnc4.exe 852 836 K 2.708 K VNC Server Free Edition for Win32 RealVNC Ltd.
svchost.exe 1048 2.556 K 3.788 K Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
lsass.exe 532 1.836 K 748 K LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation
explorer.exe 1076 5.652 K 9.540 K Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
procexp.exe 1388 6.720 K 8.220 K Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com
autoruns.exe 1444 0.75 12.188 K 12.024 K Autostart program viewer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Process: autoruns.exe Pid: 1444

Name Description Company Name Version
advapi32.dll Advanced Windows 32 Base API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
apphelp.dll Application Compatibility Client Library Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
autoruns.exe Autostart program viewer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com 9.35.0.0
clbcatq.dll Microsoft Corporation 2001.12.4414.258
comctl32.dll User Experience Controls Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.2180
comdlg32.dll Common Dialogs DLL Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.2180
comres.dll Microsoft Corporation 2001.12.4414.258
crypt32.dll Crypto API32 Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.2180
cryptnet.dll Crypto Network Related API Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.2180
ctype.nls
dnsapi.dll DNS Client API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
gdi32.dll GDI Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
imagehlp.dll Windows NT Image Helper Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
kernel32.dll Windows NT BASE API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
locale.nls
mpr.dll Multiple Provider Router DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
msasn1.dll ASN.1 Runtime APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
mstask.dll Task Scheduler interface DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
msvcrt.dll Windows NT CRT DLL Microsoft Corporation 7.0.2600.2180
netapi32.dll Net Win32 API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
ntdll.dll NT Layer DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
ntdsapi.dll NT5DS Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
ole32.dll Microsoft OLE for Windows Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
oleaut32.dll Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
R000000000007.clb
rpcrt4.dll Remote Procedure Call Runtime Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
rsaenh.dll Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2161
secur32.dll Security Support Provider Interface Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
sensapi.dll SENS Connectivity API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
setupapi.dll Windows Setup API Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
shell32.dll Windows Shell Common Dll Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.2180
shlwapi.dll Shell Light-weight Utility Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.2180
sortkey.nls
sorttbls.nls
unicode.nls
user32.dll Windows XP USER API Client DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
userenv.dll Userenv Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
uxtheme.dll Microsoft UxTheme Library Microsoft Corporation 6.0.2900.2180
version.dll Version Checking and File Installation Libraries Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
winhttp.dll Windows HTTP Services Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
wintrust.dll Microsoft Trust Verification APIs Microsoft Corporation 5.131.2600.2180
wldap32.dll Win32 LDAP API DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
ws2_32.dll Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
ws2help.dll Windows Socket 2.0 Helper for Windows NT Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180
xpsp2res.dll Service Pack 2 Messages Microsoft Corporation 5.1.2600.2180

Mark

 

TWILIGHT..., posted on October 28, 2011 at 09:59:42
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Annoyed by the results after steppe 16, & reverting back to steppe 5, & finally back to where it all started (original cMp), I was all set to discover the best combination out of all that we had accumulated so far. And then Mihaylov posted his tweak. Since I had implemented all steppes, I thought why not give it a try, afterall nothing to lose since I had a back up handy. As posted earlier, I found it to be a very good step heading in the right direction. Inspired with the result I began stepping ahead with the Original cMp in the following order ( continuosly without a break or audition in between, by using the Batch files)...

Steppe 2
Steppe 3
Steppe 4
Jolida 1
Jolida 2
Steppe 5
Steppe 6 ( I skipped xplite)
Steppe 7
Steppe 8
Steppe 9
Steppe 10
Steppe 11
Steppe 12
Steppe 13
Steppe 14
Steppe 15
Steppe 16
Bold Fortune Registry changes only
Mihaylov's first tweak posted in September
Mihaylov's My Tweak
Mihaylov's Tweak 2
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2.

There were a lot of changes to be made in many of the above posted lists, to make boot-ups go smooth, get Juli@ to work, get cicsremote to work , & restart in cMp mode. After making all the corrections, everything seemed to work perfectly well.

End Result :- unbelievable Sonics, excellent liquidity & dynamic range, very good blend & spacing between instruments, pleasantly laid-back & non-fatiguing.
Only after reaching this stage, I could sense what a cMp is capable of doing, & where it stands in comparison to awfully expensive transports....
Ofcourse there are short-comings as well, but there is still a lot of room for improvement at a hardware level, which tentatively will unleash what's been veiled still..!!
Worth it.. Absolutely !!!!


Junaid

 

RE: TWILIGHT..., posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:10:27
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Congrats on your final end result...lots of hard work there I'm sure. Can you explain a little about screenshots I neverdid d/l them. What are they? What do they do, how do they sound?

 

RE: TWILIGHT..., posted on October 28, 2011 at 10:56:50
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The screenshots which Mihaylov posted. Shows the remaining files/folders after deletions. Helped a lot in the process BUT must be done carefully. Especially with fonts. My cMp needed more fonts than on his screenshot. Also Juli@ refused to play without it's needed sys files. Rest can be replicated though..!!! I still have some more of it to be done. But I will first take the back up & then proceed. Autoruns too is way risky unless one is 100% sure what's to be removed. Else, a Blue Screen..!!!

Junaid

 

RE: TWILIGHT..., posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:00:16
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thanks

 

Never had a BSOD with AUTORUNS, posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:11:51
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Which makes me wonder if, when it was working, it would REPORT but not be able to AFFECT?

It is possible.

I was deleting stuff like mad!

 

RE: Never had a BSOD with AUTORUNS, posted on October 28, 2011 at 11:16:36
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Absolutely. One wrong thing, & it takes u to the bsod. Unless u are very sure what to remove from it, stay away..!! It's best done after taking a back up after all file deletions so that u know which entry in it is causing the blue screen, to pin it down in a safe zone..

Junaid

 

Thanks very much, posted on October 28, 2011 at 13:27:28
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I wrote a note of thanks this morning and for some reason I see it is not there.

PROCESS EXPLORER is a tool I need to use AGAIN!

Funny thing is I am pretty sure all of those files are still in my OS. Will have to check when I get home.

Thanks, again, for the information and help,

 

I agree: process explorer & autoruns should be use more. Especialy during the Steppe Tweaks , posted on October 28, 2011 at 14:15:56
Hi Rick,

I can only agree: autoruns and process explorer should have be used more. Also during the development of all the ‘Steppe tweaks’.

I still have a hard time in understanding how sound quality can be improved through deleting files that are not in use and/or are not going to be used.

Using autoruns and process explorer I found that the ‘Steppe tweaks’ indeed do delete some files that are used when running a cmp setup.. Such as: ntmarta.dll, shiming.dll, batmeter.dll, davclnt.dll, webcheck, imagenhlp, kerberos.dll, urlmon.dll, ect. (I roughly checked until Steppe Tweaks Part 7).

But most files on those deletion list aren’t used or in use at all when playing music. So how can this improve sound quality?

I even discovered that deleting files can rise latency significantly. When I delete igfxpph.dll in my cMp setup latency doubles ! This can’t be a desirable thing and is certainly not good for SQ.

My strategy would be too use process explorer too create a list of files which are used in a running cMP setup. And than experiment which of these files can be deleted.
I already found some (see above).

But I prefer too wait and see how the Steppe Tweaks process will develop on the asylum.
I like too concentrate first on experiments with power filters on the 5 volt DC and 3,3 Volt DC power lines that power my Jyli@ digital part separately.

Mark

 

RE: I agree: process explorer & autoruns should be use more. Especialy during the Steppe Tweaks , posted on October 28, 2011 at 15:11:03
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I am making some comments ... not trying to argue.


You said: '...I still have a hard time in understanding how sound quality can be improved through deleting files that are not in use and/or are not going to be used...'

I have a difficult time understanding too. But I remember Cics commenting that in the work of developing one of the cplay versions he discovered that changing the order in which the coding was compiled had an effect on sonics. So leaving a file in that is not used could also change how coding is compiled.


You said '...I even discovered that deleting files can rise latency significantly. When I delete igfxpph.dll in my cMp setup latency doubles ! This can't be a desirable thing and is certainly not good for SQ...'

This is a very good point and is maybe another reason why putting files back in may be recommended.

You said '...Using autoruns and process explorer I found that the ‘Steppe tweaks' indeed do delete some files that are used when running a cmp setup.. Such as: ntmarta.dll, shiming.dll, batmeter.dll, davclnt.dll, webcheck, imagenhlp, kerberos.dll, urlmon.dll, ect...'


Isn't it interesting that none of these files (except for imagehlp)are in the Mihaylov post concerning what files are needed for cmp and cplay.

These facts are certainly strange and should convince anyone to have an image backup program (like Snapshot) when doing the tweaks. You just never know what is and what is not required to boot and to run cmp/cplay...in your machine.

I can also tell you that having a windows footprint of only 80+ mb (which is where I am now)is definitely a good thing imo and in my experience for sonics.

 

May be there is a way to identify 'these files'., posted on October 28, 2011 at 17:01:04
Hi Theo,

Why should there be an argue in a negative way?

I think Steppe's idea/insight is very clever.
“Kernel streaming itself is clogged with attached and unreported services that are like leeches on a mermaid's ass or like fleas on a golden fleece. These services are from Direct X, Sound services and kernel audio "helpers". Also there are two DRM descramblers, that I don't know how to remove yet. By removing these files, some of which are of greater, some of lesser importance, we leave our KS beauty almost totally naked and busy with sound reproduction exclusivelyâ€.

It is not only an clever idea, it also works !
The sound quality improvement is heard by everyone.

So we all start removing 'these files'
But unfortunately removing 'these files' is done rather blindy.
We don't know exactly which files too remove.
Thus: files are being removed untill the cMP setup no longer works.
But why do we do that?
What thought or ration is behind it?
May be: “Less is beter'?

May be there is a way too identify 'these files'.
So that we no longer brick our cMP setup in an attempt too remove 'these files'.

I do not know anything about software or programming, ect.
But my feeling tells me: there has to be a better way than just blindy removing files in an attempt too hit 'these files'.

So I'm looking for a way too implement Steppe idea's without crippling or breaking my cMP setup.
In my reply too Rick I was trying too excite/stimulate/tease other inmates too explore other less intrusive ways too implement Steppe's idea's

I'm not a native English speaker but the dictionary tells me that 'argue' also can mean:
'to discuss, giving one's reasoning'. So let's argue. May be there's a clever inmate who knows a clever way too identify 'these files'.

Mark

 

THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 28, 2011 at 22:46:02
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For those who have lost thumb drive functionality after deletions, look up for the following files in the folders where u moved them to, & restore them back ( this can also be done temporarily till u load music from the thumb drive & the files can then be deleted again if u feel they effect the Sonics )...

Anything that starts with 'hid'
Anything starting with 'usb'
And the file which was deleted from c:\windows\inf\INFCACHE.1

After completing almost all the file deletions, I am still able to use my thumb drive exactly like how it was with a clean install of xp. Please note that I had also not deleted any file or entry that had to do with 'smartcard'. I have no idea if it has anything to do with USB, but I preferred not to take chances , & reserve it's removal in the End if needed...

Junaid

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 02:26:37
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And the file which was deleted from c:\windows\inf\INFCACHE.1


Question do you remember either the name of the file in inf\INFCACHE.1 or in which post it was described (ie My tweak or My Tweak2...?

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 02:56:03
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I'm not too sure which steppe it was, but I vaguely remember it being mentioned in the last set of steppes. We were told to delete the entire inf folder, which actually had the motor to make the thumb drive run. If u have Moved the files elsewhere & not deleted them permanently, then it's quite easy to get hold of it... I think it should be steppe 8.
Also reading this page might be useful:-

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html

and

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6142_102-276502.html

Junaid

 

Thank You!, posted on October 29, 2011 at 03:56:47
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No, It is me, posted on October 29, 2011 at 04:00:49
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Hello! Sorry to present such a dirty set of tweaks. They were done during my influenza and my cat dying and one more cmp crash and a hurried rebuild, that is why some files from parts 5, 11 and, probably, 12 got listed in parts 17-20. The last (I hope) part will be 22 and is soon to be posted thanks to Serge Mihaylov.
Serge.

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 06:03:03
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The inf stuff is in the original My Tweak stuff right near the front. So anyway I put back inf cache stuff but also found some smartcard stuff in inf & I put that back but I still get the disk not formatted response. I did find some usb stuff in the inf folder so I'll try restoring that. Did you restore these as well?

Remember to try cut & paste also.

Unfortunately even with the usb files from inf folder restored I still get disc not formatted error message.

edit: I restored hid***.inf files still no luck

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 09:23:16
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When I restored these files I just put them into Windows not back into a folder called inf. Should I try that instead? Is that how you did it?

 

Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 09:30:09
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I have bought a Fit-PC2 Ultra. I have (licensed ) copies of both Win 7 & Win XP SP2.
The Fit-PC2 is to be used exclusively for playing music with CMP2 to a USB DAC.

I want to modify Windows to minimise its footprint and will be following the most helpful file removals on this forum.

I wondered if anyone had done back to back comparisons of the two OS similarly cut down using CMP2 and whether there is a preference for either for best SQ?

Many thanks

Jonathan

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:08:41
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Re-create the c:\ windows\inf folder & put back the INFCACHE.1 as well as everything to do with USB..

Junaid

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 10:25:25
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I have bought a Fit-PC2 Ultra.

Wise choice! I've been using the rather slower 1GHz, single-core Fit-PC2 for over two years now. Though it can be a bit sluggish at browsing, it never falters when playing and I've yet to find anything better sound-quality wise. Note that the Atom cannot upsample to 192KHz using cPlay.

I can't say whether Win 7 beats XP using stock drivers but suspect that, if your DAC has bespoke ones or you use the likes of the AQVOX, the difference is negligible.

One point you may want to bear in mind is that the user base (and thus the number of people who can offer support on this forum) for cMP/XP setups is much wider than for cMP/Win7 ones.

HTH

Dave

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:26:24
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still does not work. Since I lost this function in My Tweak page 5 I'm going to try to restore those files. Think there was only 11 or so.

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:45:10
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Hope u get it to work asap...
How's the sound at this stage ??

Junaid

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:05:24
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Thanks Dave. Sensible advice. I think I will stick with SP2 XP.

I am using a M2Tech Evo based DAC which does have proprietary Windows drivers. Will that work OK with CPlay?

Jonathan

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 12:06:13
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even though I restored the files mentioned...sonics are still very good.

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 13:51:23
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= I am using a M2Tech Evo based DAC which does have proprietary Windows drivers. Will that work OK with CPlay? =
- No. The drivers M2Tech Evo do not support ASIO. cPlay does not define M2Tech Evo with drivers ASIO4ALL also.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 13:54:03
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Will [the M2Tech Evo] work with cPlay

If its driver is ASIO-compatible, almost certainly Yes. If for some reason it doesn't work with cPlay, you can always use a player such as Foobar. Not quite as good as cPlay but closer IMHO than some suggest.

Dave

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 14:19:25
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Damnit!
Would the new ASIO2WASAPI driver from levm also not work?

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 29, 2011 at 14:25:46
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I did not try driver ASIO2WASAPI. I heard for the first time about it from you now. Unfortunately I already gave M2Tech Evo therefore check up its operation with this driver I can not.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 14:39:06
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Because there are problems with functioning of usb ports on tweaking cMP2 why not to use external eSATA HDD?

Serge.
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My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 16:05:43
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Why not use external eSATA HDD?

A cMP2 box I built for a friend uses an eSATA HDD with an OS and a data partition. It works just fine. My good idea was that it would be easy to replace the stock HDD PSU with something better, my bad one that I would have to make it. As yet, I haven't - but the eSATA interface is (as you'd expect) no problem.

Another idea at the back of my mind is to try booting and pulling data from a USB HDD connected via one of those ADuM4160 USB isolator chips. Slow speed and all that but not outrageously expensive and plenty fast enough for audio and, with slimmed-down OS installs, sensible boot times.

Hopefully.

Dave

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 19:09:40
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I restored all the filoes (17 of them) from page 5 of My Tweak and I can now cut & paste ok but cmp does not recognize thumb drive. Still get a 'Do you want to format the disk' error message.

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 29, 2011 at 19:13:27
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So I assume my Thermaltake docking station is a type of esata drive. So now that I can copy or cut & paste I could load my hdd's that way. Will try in the am.

Thanks Dave and Serge.

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 30, 2011 at 03:18:54
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Did not work...oh well back to restoring more files.

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 30, 2011 at 07:59:27
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Ok I narrowed down the cut & paste function to a small group of dll's: rpcn4,rpcss, rsfaps, rshx32. When I put these files back in cmp boots faster and cut & paste is restored. The process I used was restore 5-7 files reboot see if I fix the problem and it worked well for the cut & paste function. However when I used this process to find why I could not get thumb drives or my esata docking station to work I ran into weird results.

I restored 8 drivers from my temp folder beginning with wshatm through drmk and I got a no boot. Put acpiec through drmk.sys back into the temp folder still no boot. So I restored wshatm, wshbth and so since this was where I was before it should boot ....but still no boot ...very weird. All I can figure is that is that some interaction between rpcn4... and wshatm...is going on or the order of file deletes is important or I goofed up somewhere. . Anyway I restored my last good os disc file for all the tweaks through My tweak 2 and I'm back in music
but no cut & paste and no thumb drive functionality but it sounds great.

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 30, 2011 at 08:14:55
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So does this device allow me to go from usb (say from my docking station) to a sata input on my hd? If so that would fix my problems as long as I could cut and paste(which I think I now know how to do)?

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 30, 2011 at 08:35:45
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does this device allow me to go from usb . . . to a sata input on my hd?

No. I'm not clear why you might want to but you can connect a docking station c/w eSATA interface (most newer devices have one) either to an eSATA interface on the motherboard or (slightly inferior but most unlikely to matter in this context) a SATA>eSATA adapter on the back panel:





On that system I mentioned, I connected an external boot/data drive with its own PSU via one of these adapters. Functionally, it's an internal drive but it's not connected to the mobo PSU and is open to improvement. Some day.

 

RE: External eSATA HDD instead of THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 30, 2011 at 09:02:27
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You said '...No. I'm not clear why you might want to ...'

I'm just trying to get new music into my hdd's. So unless I figure out how to reactivate thumb drives and to cut & paste from them I don't have a way unless I swap a a sata hdd to my home computer and then swap it back into cmp. Maybe one of your above mentioned adapters will work. I'm only looking for a way to easily get new music data into cmp.

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 30, 2011 at 12:48:05
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Serge - I am pleased to say that the ASIO2WASAPI driver works very well with CPlay on my M2Tech Evo USB interface.

Many thanks levm.

Jonathan

 

RE: Windows 7 or XP SP2?, posted on October 30, 2011 at 16:42:03
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Thank You for the good news.

Serge.
http://cmp2-mihaylov.narod.ru/

My cMP2: Windows XP SP2 Ru, GA-H55M-UD2H, i3-530, Corsair CM3X160C9DHX 1GB, system drive - Transcend IDE FLASH MODULE TS2GDOM40V-S FAT32, ESI Juli@, full linear PSU, NAS - WD My Book Live

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on October 31, 2011 at 07:23:29
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There must be different versions of xp. I finally got my way back to cut & paste and having cmp recognize thumb drives.

Requirements for cut and paste : rpcns4, rpcss, rsfsaps,rshx32,rsmps all dll's. It could be this subset is smaller I just haven't narrowed it further.

Requirements for recognizing thumb drives: wshatm.dll, wshbth.dll, fs_rec.sys, mcd.sys.

I left the inf folder deleted and all works fine.

Go figure maybe the files can be further narrowed but I'm done after looking for a solution the old fashioned way ... hard work(restoring files 5-7 at a time to see if it fixes the problem).

The last few days demonstrated what functions I need and it isn't keyboard. It mouse, cut & paste and recognizing thumb drives.


Edit: changed file name for thumb drive functionality correct file is fs_rec not imapi....

 

What causes memory (stick) failure, posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:53:14
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thought my MB had died, went so far as to order another one (now I have a backup) and just for "fun" I put in the other precious stick of 512 mB I possess and everything worked fine.

Had not done anything unusual. Just would not get to the BIOS screen.

Any ideas? Don't want it to happen again.

 

RE: What causes memory (stick) failure, posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:41:01
Ryelands
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Any ideas? Don't want it to happen again.

Set your BIOS back to the default settings and try again. If, under these circs, Stick 1 runs and Stick 2 doesn't, fair bet that Stick 2 is dud. If OTOH Stick 2 runs, you've maybe been "under-clocking" more than that particular device warms to.

 

Thanks, but ..., posted on October 31, 2011 at 20:54:48
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when this happened I could not get to BIOS to change anything. Just sat there with those lights blinking on the board - they would stay on about 15 seconds and then go off, come back on for another 15 seconds ad infinitum.

Using only one. Luckily I had another.

Tonight I was listening to music and it just stopped. Tried to restart, same thing as with the bad stick. Turned off all power, took it out and re-inserted and all was fine. Makes me think the "bad: one might not be bad.

Thanks, as always,

Wasn't doing anything extreme in BIOS - standard recommended settings.

Tried STEPPE's BIOS settings later on and had no problem getting that to work. A mystery ...

 

Implemented!, posted on October 31, 2011 at 20:58:09
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You are right. It sounds rough at the start.

Things were starting to get better when I stopped listening after an hour. Tomorrow night will be the test!

The procedure works just like you said it would.

Have never had any success getting much below 0.75 volts in the past. This is the way to do it.

Serge, you are quite a clever fellow!!!

 

The Lonely Mouse..??, posted on October 31, 2011 at 22:48:54
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At this stage, where there seems nothing more left to delete or change, & windows sits around 50mb, arises another question. I have been using a cordless mouse throughout this project, & now it seems like it is left alone without siblings. The system does not accept any other mouse, be it USB (corded or cordless) as well as ps2. I guess the HID service had been stopped before services were deleted along the route. What if this mouse stops working at a later date? There seems no chance at that stage but to re-build with the default settings & re-do all the optimisations. Has anybody any experience about this???

Junaid

 

RE: The Lonely Mouse..??, posted on November 1, 2011 at 00:39:42
audiodan@tiscali.it
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Hi all
my experience is the same of jolida but I can add an interestin "USB memory" effect. After step 7, i cannot remember at which stage, we lost USB use. If you, like me, use the batch steps keeping connect one HDD or two, and the mouse/keyboard wifi thumb, they will continue to work until the end of deletions without any problem but only and solely in that precise USB port where they are connected. So you'll can decide of disconnect and reconnect the device but only in his old position.
Interesting and useful, I think

 

RE: The Lonely Mouse..??, posted on November 1, 2011 at 01:00:17
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But are u able to use a different mouse other than the one u have been using all this way???? My concern is not with the port, but with the mouse itself. Will we be able to get a new mouse to work, just in case the present one gets damaged???

Junaid

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 05:15:03
Jolida
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A friend of mine is Still unable to use pen drive even after restoring those 4 files u specified. Are they cumulatively related to the files u have chosen for 'cut n paste' to work, or are they independent of each other?? Have u restored the 4 files after restoring the files for cut-n-paste??

Junaid

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 06:38:03
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I did the cut and paste 1st then the thumb drive.

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 06:45:16
Jolida
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Thumb drive Still does not work even after restoring all files..

Junaid

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 06:48:14
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Your restorations didn't work either?

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 06:51:59
Jolida
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No. He still gets the "Disk not formatted" error..!!

Junaid

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 07:02:10
theob
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Did he reboot?

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 07:11:52
theob
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One thing I did do cut/paste files then the wshatm and wshbth then lastly the 2 files Fs_rec and mcd as a set. Rebooting after each set of deletions.

Dont know if it makes a differnce but there it is.

What level of other deletions has he done (e.g., Steppe 1-20, My Tweak 1...)?

 

RE: THUMB DRIVE, posted on November 1, 2011 at 07:43:56
Jolida
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Yes he is done with all deletions. He could cut 'n' paste but thumb drive doesn't function. It shows up in My Computer but Not formatted error as usual..!!

Junaid

 

RE: The Lonely Mouse..??, posted on November 1, 2011 at 08:03:39
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No, I' don't think, only an identical model of mouse.
Otherwise you must redo everything from the start.
Bless Acronis ( or other backup and restore system) and your batch files!
I'll try, I get some different type of wifi mouse. It could be easy to try if they works or not

 

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