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Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?

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Posted on March 18, 2017 at 22:14:15
jimbill
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I was listening to the HDTT reissue of "Richter/Brahms Concerto #2". It just has more depth and clarity than the redbook CD I've owned for years. It lets you hear what can be done with older recordings which suffered from bad engineering or bad transfers to digital.

I would love to see "Richter/Bach Well Tempered Clavier" and "Marriner/Van Williams" given some TLC from the best engineers.

When I win the lottery I will take all suggestions into consideration.

 

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RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 18, 2017 at 22:36:08
Logan
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Carlos Kleiber's DG recording of Tristan. My originally-issued LPs are a sonic atrocity. Yet I sense that beneath the murk of this clearly botched recording lies a transcendental performance. I would like to hear it sometime.

I understand that there were extreme difficulties in the East German studio during the recording sessions but I've yet to hear a complete and authoritative account of the goings-on.

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 18, 2017 at 23:06:11
jdaniel@jps.net
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Funny, I was just going to mention the Furtwangler Tristan, though after a few minutes, the ear adjusts very nicely.

I like the Kleiber too. What a shame that Margaret Price didn't record more Wagner. I'm not a big fan of Kollo's performance.

 

There was a Japanese JVC remaster of the Richter WTC recommended here. . . , posted on March 19, 2017 at 00:51:40
Chris from Lafayette
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. . . sometime ago (with K2 processing - just like the JVC XRCD's). I got a copy myself and I thought it was indeed an improvement over the previous issues I had. I believe these performances were recorded in Salzburg. Not long after, there was also a complete in-concert Richter performance given in Innsbruck, which was said to be better recorded than the blowsy, barn-like sound they got in Salzburg (although Book the Salzburg II was better in this respect than the Salzburg Book I). I also have Richter's in-concert recording in Moscow of Book I only (on the Russian Revelation label). The basic recording is better focused, but it has noises and odd bits of distortion every now and then. From what I read, the Innsbruck performances were probably the best recorded (I haven't heard them), although they've circulated on more obscure labels.

 

Which version of PC2?, posted on March 19, 2017 at 02:20:36
kuma
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Leinsdorf, Maazel or Mravinsky?

I usually prefer original issues over most reissues but it would be nice if someone can improve many of Richter's older recording.
Here's my wish list:







I have Richter's all 4 known recordings of Schumann's Piano Concerto but figures, the one I like most is the worst sounding set with Alexader Gauk/Moscow Radio Orchestra. :/ I also have a few different reissues of this but every one of them are turkeys.

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 19, 2017 at 07:02:33
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Carlos Kleiber's Brahms 4, the sound on original DG is nasty, I am not familiar with the Esoteric version was it any improvement over the original? Those go for a ton of money on the used market.

 

Richter/Gauk/Schumann PC, posted on March 19, 2017 at 07:45:47
The sound quality of that is so bad I wonder if anything can save it. How about Haskil/Otterloo/Hague Philharmonic instead?

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 19, 2017 at 08:00:31
Great question. One would be George Crumb's Ancient Voices of Children and Mikrokosmos on Nonesuch. Originally a 1970s LP when Nonesuch had begun to produce its own recordings in excellent sound rather than terrible-sounding reissues. Issued on CD in 1990. If you don't want to do modern/contemporary, Mr. Lottery Winner, how about the Horenstein/LSO Mahler 3rd on Nonesuch discussed below?

 

Leinsdorf, posted on March 19, 2017 at 08:00:48
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Got it for $9 from HDTT. Comes in just a paper sleeve. I'll just stick it in the RCA jewel box and give the original to my daughter.

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 19, 2017 at 09:13:20
Mike K
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Quite a while back, RCA issued all of its Duke Ellington recordings in
a very nice box set. Only problem, the remastering job induced extreme
digititus in listeners, such that the set was basically unlistenable (for
me, anyway). So, Sony ... get busy ... remaster this beautiful music
for us in a listenable form.

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 19, 2017 at 09:36:16
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In the 1980s I found a mint copy of Berio's 'Folk Songs' on RCA Red Seal LSC-3189 with Cathy Berberian. Apparently, it was recorded in England; perhaps with early solid state equipment. There is an extremely annoying sibilance throughout the recording evident on Ms. Berberian's voice. When I bought the album again on CD, I was dismayed to find that the sibilance was still there; so it must be on the original tapes. I wonder if it would be possible to somehow remove this sibilance without destroying the integrity of the music.

 

Totally With You About the Richter's [nt], posted on March 19, 2017 at 15:46:05
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You Have An Outstanding Nom de Plume [nt], posted on March 19, 2017 at 15:48:19
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RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 20, 2017 at 00:19:05
Russell
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I'd love to see Sony (or someone else) do a remaster of the early-50s Bruno Walter Brahms symphonies with the New York Phil. They are much more invigorating, performance-wise, than his stereo remakes with the Columbia Symphony, but the sound has always been sub-par to me, even for the time period. I've got them on Japanese Sony CDs (issued 1991) as well as on European Sony CDs issued in 2004. Both sound pretty identical, but I think they could benefit from modern (DSD?) remastering techniques.

Russell

 

RE: Leinsdorf, posted on March 20, 2017 at 02:32:59
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I've an original vinyl copy on RCA, but was always puzzled that Rainer/Gilels set from a few years prior to Richter/Lendsdorf sounds so much better. I assume same engineer worked on it but obviously a different venue.

 

I haveto check out Haskil's Schumann..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 02:36:46
kuma
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I haven't heard it !

 

RE: You Have An Outstanding Nom de Plume [nt], posted on March 20, 2017 at 06:48:37
Palustris
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I was born on an island and have never lived more than a few miles from the sea.

 

There are some that should NEVER have been tampered with...., posted on March 20, 2017 at 14:13:02
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One that particularly springs to mind is Maazel's "L'Enfant et les Sortileges". I'm sure there are more.

These are cases where you have to dig out the original.

 

Agreed on that one! Ansermet's is pretty realistic too, but Maazel's captures the darker elements. nt, posted on March 20, 2017 at 17:57:59
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RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 21, 2017 at 09:42:27
Inmate51
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" has more depth and clarity"

Not to burst your bubble, but if it's a re-issue, and not a different recording, then it's a matter of EQ and level expansion - yes, the dreaded "electronic processing".

:)

 

RE: Which recordings would you like to see sonically revisited?, posted on March 21, 2017 at 12:03:30
bald2
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Not to mention everything that George Szell did for Columbia. I've heard that some of the master tapes actually sound good:)

Harry

 

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