would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 21, 2023 at 20:43:45
triamp Audiophile Posts: 780 Location: USA Joined: August 6, 2008	Sure, I'd buy them. But because they are big and bulky I think they might be MORE expensive. Science doesn't care what you believe.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 22, 2023 at 16:47:13
66mgb Audiophile Posts: 243 Location: Neskowin Oregon Joined: November 8, 2009	NO, I try to buy American if possible, but that is not easy, tools are a fine example, very few are left that are made in the USA. Nothing worse than a POS tool that breaks and could injure you too.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 24, 2023 at 08:36:26
gracky Audiophile Posts: 20 Joined: October 15, 2014	If they were made in China, I'd expect they contain neodymium magnets, foil air coil inductors and better polypropylene caps at similar to present prices.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 24, 2023 at 09:15:14
Roger Gustavsson Audiophile Posts: 2002 Location: Huskvarna Joined: February 12, 2010	Nowadays, most magnetic materials is from China. If Magnepan still source their magnets from Arnolds Magnetics, the magnets probably comes from their chinese division.

RE: If Magnepan still source their magnets from Arnolds Magnetics ..., posted on July 24, 2023 at 18:54:12
andyr Manufacturer Posts: 12495 Location: Melbourne Joined: September 2, 2000	I thought Magnepan used 3M magnetic strips - as Jim Winey used to work for them?

RE: If Magnepan still source their magnets from Arnolds Magnetics ..., posted on July 24, 2023 at 23:31:13
Roger Gustavsson Audiophile Posts: 2002 Location: Huskvarna Joined: February 12, 2010	I think Winey refered to Plastiform Magnets from Arnold Magnetics. https://www.arnoldmagnetics.com/products/plastiform-high-energy-bonded-magnets/

*Absolutely not , posted on July 25, 2023 at 06:26:43**
Mike K Audiophile Posts: 13869 Location: 97701 Joined: September 23, 1999	Lack of skill dictates economy of style. - Joey Ramone

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 25, 2023 at 20:16:14
6bq5 Audiophile Posts: 4209 Location: SF Bay Joined: August 16, 2001	No No Happy Listening

thats funny ,,,,,,,,,, , posted on July 26, 2023 at 09:07:11
trioderob Audiophile Posts: 753 Joined: May 15, 2015	....... no China Maggie for you !

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on July 27, 2023 at 10:14:42
carlgardeif6b@gmail.com Audiophile Posts: 3 Location: SE USA Joined: November 13, 2022	No. Made is USA only

No [nt], posted on July 27, 2023 at 21:54:24
Simon Templar Audiophile Posts: 602 Location: Infinite Rider On The Big Dogma Joined: November 9, 1999	.....sT

how would you service them if needed? nt, posted on August 1, 2023 at 05:31:10
Green Lantern Audiophile Posts: 16898 Location: San Diego, Ca Joined: November 12, 2002 Contributor Since: June 17, 2003

Return to factory by slow boat? ;) nt. , posted on August 1, 2023 at 18:21:13
MWE Audiophile Posts: 2151 Location: Burlington, NC Joined: June 8, 2000	Nt. Mark in NC "The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon

RE: Return to factory by slow boat? ;) nt. , posted on August 2, 2023 at 04:32:04
Roger Gustavsson Audiophile Posts: 2002 Location: Huskvarna Joined: February 12, 2010	Return to factory by slow boat is what we europeans need to do in order to have anything done at the factory in Lake Bear. There are some non-official restorer in Europe but it will include some shipping too.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 2, 2023 at 14:56:04

jazzbeat
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No very simple to understand . I have worked in electronics since 84 and have run into many forms of mis manufacture from both US and other countries. The most recent example of why I would avoid China as a place for manufacture of high end electronics is my purchase of a higher end bass guitar that is from one of the two longest well known US electric guitar makers. The bass I purchased ( costing over $1,00.00 US ) had three main issues and more if details were to be wood pieces still inside the hollow body cavity from scrap wood from the machining of the body. Second major stains in the color of the finish on the back and neck . Third twisted neck on arrival . While any of these would be a return item all three had me returning this ASAP. Know for details this instrument had gone through full inspection and setup and inspection in the US prior to my purchase with tags of inspectors. Remember this is one of the top two US manufacturers of guitars ( and have been for over 100 years).
Sorry about the long story but see this happen in electronics in many levels and would be very cautious if buying any imports these days. I am not saying there are not great firms in China and the east there are. But when you remove ideas like pride factor and just have quality control from outside countries motivating the employee what do you expect. This plant had onsite ongoing inspection buy the US firm mentioned. I was very surprised to see this with an instrument that had great reviews on the web.
if on the other hand I would have more interest in buying from firms like this below.

https://www.clarisysaudio.ch/Insights/

It appears at least from the ratings and information that they make a great product. Maybe personal pride, ownership of the firm in the hands of the builder might make a difference.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 2, 2023 at 18:41:58

triamp
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I heard that someone from Magnepan said that if they were to switch to rare-earth magnets, such magnets are so strong that their current assembly procedure wouldn't work - the people who place the magnets in their frames would get their fingers caught, the magnets would snap so tightly and quickly that it would hard to align them again if the initial placement was off, etc.

I know using Nd magnets for panel speakers CAN be done- there are some brands that use them- and it would improve efficiency, but to tool up the production process at the Magnepan factory might end up costing so much that the resulting speakers would be too spendy.

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RE: Return to factory by slow boat? ;) nt. , posted on August 3, 2023 at 20:20:35
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22438 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Obvious solution is for the AMERICAN market.....perhaps 3 or so regions?, that the parent company suvey and appoint certified repair centers. 1X Canada 2X USA I don't know about Carib, Central, or South America to guess. even to the extent of certification of workmen at the plant in White Bear.....or wherever it is at that point.... Too much is never enough

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 3, 2023 at 20:37:21
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22438 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	That's Brutal. A grand these days, though? How much is that relative to market / type. How much is a Stratocaster today.....basic. Or a Les Paul? I knew a 'cowboy'.....So Cal style.....who was a real artist. He had......over a period of time......several really nice pieces....I don't know all the names......and I know not at once! Too much is never enough

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 4, 2023 at 01:44:37
Roger Gustavsson Audiophile Posts: 2002 Location: Huskvarna Joined: February 12, 2010	Using rare-earth magnets would take the price to a level where must of us cannot afford the speakers. Apart from that, these rare-earth magnets will be sourced from China in almost all cases... The main advantage of stronger magnets is increased effiency but more powerful amplifiers are cheaper.

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 12, 2023 at 00:01:54

pictureguy
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i'm very out of touch....
But what is the common amp used by guitar players?
Tube or SS?
And if tube? EL34 or some such? Fender Twin Reverb uses 4x 6L6......right?

I thought that Magnepan should experiment with a better magnet for their panels.
But? Have you ever HANDLED such strong magnets? Pinch injuries happen. If brittle, slamming together will break 'em. You must be exceptionally careful which tells me you will need to reorganize workstations AND retrain......Probably will need new tooling for the step(s) involving mounting the magnets / structure.....
Too much is never enough

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 12, 2023 at 06:12:11
MaggiesAndCats Audiophile Posts: 671 Joined: August 31, 2009 Contributor Since: July 16, 2010	I use a Mesa/Boogie Subway D-800 amp for my bass. It's class D, light as a feather, and sounds awesome. The guitar players in the band use solid state amps with modeling pedals, etc. Regards, Steve

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 23, 2023 at 22:24:58
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22438 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Boy! I'm out of touch. Last band people I had touch with used Peevy Vintage or Tweed Twin......with the Bass Player having some MONSTER setup which when cranked could be heard 3 blocks away in downtown Fullerton... Too much is never enough

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 23, 2023 at 22:25:42
pictureguy Audiophile Posts: 22438 Location: SoCal Joined: October 19, 2008	Stuff like Harbor Freight sells......BE CAREFUL..... Too much is never enough

RE: would you buy Maggies if they were made in China ?, posted on August 24, 2023 at 08:30:14
MaggiesAndCats Audiophile Posts: 671 Joined: August 31, 2009 Contributor Since: July 16, 2010	I hear ya ;>)! I used to use a trio of Music Man amps and cabinets that could make your pants flap in the breeze. That's all been sold or traded for other gear. I'm very happy with what I have now and it sounds great at any volume level. As I move through my sixties the weight of the gear carries more... weight. Regards, Steve

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