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Those Were The Days

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Posted on March 13, 2025 at 02:00:19
Jotaro
 Watching the show I would think okay I guess everyone longs for the good ol'days. These days the lyrics really hit home.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
songs that made the hit parade
Guys like me we had it made
Those were the days
Didn't need no welfare state
ev'rybody pulled his weight
gee our old LaSalle ran great
Those were the days
And you knew who you were then
girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
People seemed to be content
fifty dollars paid the rent
freaks were in a circus tent
Those were the days
Take a little Sunday spin
go to watch the Dodgers win
Have yourself a dandy day
that cost you under a fin
Hair was short and skirts were long
Kate Smith really sold a song
I don't know just what went wrong
those were the days


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Except the good old days weren't really good., posted on March 13, 2025 at 04:11:58
ghost of olddude55
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 To wit: When I was 7 years old, churches were being blow up in the US South, the FBI was trying to dismantle the civil rights movement and in October of that year, the world came to the brink of nuclear war.
Pick a year or an era, you'll find turmoil, violence, war, famine...
We only think things were better and simpler because we were kids or because that's what we see in movies and TV.



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RE: Those Were The Days, posted on March 13, 2025 at 05:56:40
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 Just like now, there were good things and bad things about those times and it's not unusual to long for something from the past..
For me, i worked at a TV store in 1970 after school and was able to buy trade in Macintosh m60's from the store for 15$ each, i miss that and the 30 cent a gallon gas and things that can be repaired haha.

Perhaps your not aware that the show that's from was a stereotype /caricature they were making fun of back then.

 

Yes, that song is satire and mockery of everything the Archie Bunker character represented (nt), posted on March 13, 2025 at 06:04:52
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RE: Except the good old days weren't really good., posted on March 13, 2025 at 06:09:32
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 Ghost, why are you always so negative? Is it that if everything isn't perfect In your eyes, then none of it can be good?

 

It's realism, not negativity., posted on March 13, 2025 at 06:20:24
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 Good stuff happened, just not more good stuff.
And people who think things are far worse now are wrong.
I used to have this argument with my mom all the time (she died in 2018). She always said that she never remembered the world as a worse place than now, and I'd have to remind her that she lived through the most deadly war in human history when she was a child.



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RE: It's realism, not negativity., posted on March 13, 2025 at 06:26:05
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 Is Pittsburg better now than 50 years ago?

 

Better? In my opinion, hell yes., posted on March 13, 2025 at 07:21:12
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 It's a much better place to live now than it was 50 years ago.
Sure, we were still a steel-producing town in the Seventies, but the air was dirty, the rivers were polluted, and all our eggs were in one basket. When Reagan came, we lost steel and were flat on our asses for a decade.
But if you're one of those guys who longs for the day when a high school dropout could land a job paying the equivalent of $80K in today's money and didn't mind the poisonous air, poisoned water, and the sheer shittiness of those jobs, then you might disagree.
And that's the whole point. There were no better simpler times. Too many people think Leave It To Beaver is a documentary series.



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RE: Better? In my opinion, hell yes., posted on March 13, 2025 at 08:23:04
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 What do you think Pittsburg would be like if it never had the steel industry? Much of America was similar to Leave it to Beaver and even Mayberry. But I doubt you can relate to that.

 

No they weren't Ollie, not like today. Nt, posted on March 13, 2025 at 08:39:12
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 Nt

 

Those were TV sitcoms, man., posted on March 13, 2025 at 09:20:39
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 Too many people can't tell fact from fiction, unfortunately. In real life June Cleaver would have been gulping Milltowns and the local Catholic priest would have been diddling the Beaver. "Mayberry" was a studio backlot in California, and Mt. Airy, NC (which Mayberry was based on) was most likely a sundowner town. You familiar with that term?
Neither one of those shows had any more of a relationship to reality than Star Trek
Steel made Pittsburgh and then wrecked it. We recovered on our own, thanks to some visionary local politicians (liberal Democrats back when that actually meant something), and we're better off without the steel industry.




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I think about my grandkids., posted on March 13, 2025 at 09:41:38
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 We all love to rag on the internet but thanks to the WWW, they have access to things we couldn't have imagined when I was their age. They're interested in so much, and I think it's great.
Hell just look at music. My oldest grandson is 12. When I was that age and a song I loved came on the radio, if I couldn't afford to buy it I had to memorize it because the radio wasn't going to play it forever. The grandkids can listen to the entire canon, every piece of music ever created, any time they want.
When I was 12, the Vietnam War was entering its bloodiest phase with no end in sight and there was a draft.
If you sat outside your house at night, that's when the steel mills let the pollution roll. Sulfur dioxide fumes would chase you back in.



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Especially considering that the good old days they sang about was the Great Depression. nt, posted on March 13, 2025 at 09:43:41
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That the "fiction" part isn't obvious is surprising , posted on March 13, 2025 at 09:57:37
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 The clues were everywhere. Husband/wife with separate twin beds. Bathrooms without toilets. June Cleaver dressed up and wearing pearls while preparing dinner in the kitchen. People always sitting at only 3 sides of a square dinner table. Etc.

 

They had a bitchin' refrigerator though., posted on March 13, 2025 at 10:03:23
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 A Servel. We had one just like it when I was a kid.
Except ours never worked right and my dad was constantly taking it apart and putting it back together again.
Hollywood is the Bullshit Industrial Complex, it's true, but nobody was supposed to watch that crap and think it was true to life.
At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, there's a huge problem with people believing what they see on TV and in movies, and then acting on those beliefs.



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Servel refrigerators were not bitchin, posted on March 13, 2025 at 10:43:07
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 Very clever design using "absorption" principle to create cold from a heat source. No moving parts either if you don't consider gasses and liquids moving around by convection and gravity as "moving parts". Only needed a gas source like natural or propane so they were popular for summer homes wo electricity. They had a reputation for problems as you know, including death from carbon monoxide poisoning. I recall them being "outlawed" or restricted. Don't know if anything like it is made today. With advent of cheap solar and peltier effect coolers, I'd guess not.

 

These days, they're just expensive-but-cheaply-made junk., posted on March 13, 2025 at 10:45:40
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 the compressors don't last more than a few years.



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RE: Better? In my opinion, hell yes., posted on March 13, 2025 at 10:57:33
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 "Too many people think Leave It To Beaver is a documentary series."

True enough. The truth is that for better or worse society 'remembers' the past as it's depicted in stupid simplistic TV shows.

There are people out there who think the Brady Bunch is a realistic portrayal of the 1970s, but it was far from that, as anybody who lived then will attest.

My brother-in-law is the same age as Wally Cleaver, and I recall he remarked "If Wally Cleaver went to my high school he would gotten the shit kicked out of him every day"

People also think characters in movies are somebody realm when they are just the thoughts of the person writing the script. Case in point: The Dude from 'The Big Lebowski'

 

One movie that doesn't fool car guys is "Fast and Furious.", posted on March 13, 2025 at 11:14:55
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 Nos? "Danger to Manifold?"
In fact, the whole franchise is just as bad. If you can't get the car stuff right, don't make a car movie.




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We just replaced ours., posted on March 13, 2025 at 12:44:23
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 It was an Frigidaire and almost 20 years old. Bought it right after Katrina. The compressor had been making buzzing and groaning noises for months. We bought a counter depth that had to be ordered and took about a month to come in. My wife would talk to the old one every time it made noises telling it to "hang in there buddy, your replacement is on the way".

 

RE: These days, they're just expensive-but-cheaply-made junk., posted on March 13, 2025 at 12:57:31
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 I think the Servel was in the first house, the second newer house had all Built in GE appliances, refrigerator, oven, stove, washer dryer.
The rest of the house was all GE also, vacuum cleaner, television, console stereo, radio and record player in the boys room.

 

What a bunch of mediocre, nostalgic crap..., posted on March 13, 2025 at 16:14:05
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 always was, always will be.

Nostalgic, mediocre crap is timeless, which is a shame.

"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

RE: Bah Humbug....Its Okay to Reminisce Sometimes, posted on March 13, 2025 at 16:18:51
Jotaro
 Everyone should have had at least some time in their life that was worth reminiscing about.




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That's true and..., posted on March 13, 2025 at 16:34:16
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 they'd probably be better off keeping it to themselves or
only subjecting those dearest to them to it, least someone
come along and rain on that parade.

And how is it Big Bands get mentioned so often in reminiscing?

A song about reminiscing that people reminisce about?

WtF?








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RE: Those Were The Days, posted on March 13, 2025 at 21:53:35
Jotaro
 Perhaps your not aware that the show that's from was a stereotype /caricature they were making fun of back then.
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Yep completely aware b/c I used to watch it.

Back then peoples skin wasn't as fragile and thin as it is now...needless to say All In The Family along with a ton of other shows would never air today.












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RE: Those Were The Days, posted on March 14, 2025 at 10:17:36
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 So far as i can see, your spot on.
Think Blazing Saddles and countless others that would evoke cries from the loud and easily offended group if a counterpart were made now.

They feel their right to stop others from seeing / knowing something they don't agree with over rides your right to see it.
They are superior in their mind and just looking out for you, letting their inner control freak out.

Might be partly like the weird illness in the group that roots for / works for failure, failure that hurts all. Why would anyone in their right mind do that?



 

Can Bubonic Plague, Polio, Smallpox be far behind?, posted on March 14, 2025 at 18:25:07
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 What states have measles cases?

Texas

Alaska

California

Florida

Georgia

Kentucky

New Jersey

New Mexico

New York

Pennsylvania

Rhode Island

Washington

Maryland

Michigan

Vermont

Oklahoma

"Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. "
― W.C. Fields

 

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