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Joe Burrow (Bengals) out with a torn wrist ligament. Ouch.

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Posted on November 18, 2023 at 11:14:17
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Gone for the season. Always the damn ligaments, hurt like hell, and take millennia to heal, unlike tendons. Joe went out two years ago with torn knee ligaments, then came back and into the Stupor Bowl.

Jake Browning, former U of Washington qb takes over. He's ok; no big stepdown.


 

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RE: Joe Burrow (Bengals) out with a torn wrist ligament. Ouch., posted on November 18, 2023 at 11:26:58
The North is wide open right now.

 

RE: Joe Burrow (Bengals) out with a torn wrist ligament. Ouch., posted on November 18, 2023 at 12:21:51
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Go Stillers

 

It's a team game., posted on November 18, 2023 at 13:37:11
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If the Bengals defense plays lights out and Browning doesn't turn the ball over a ton, they can still win.
I hate the Bengals though, so I hope they don't.



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RE: It's a team game., posted on November 18, 2023 at 13:39:31
I think that you are going to get your wish.

 

We'll see how Lamar Jackson does without Mark Andrews., posted on November 18, 2023 at 14:25:26
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And Ronnie Stanley. And OBJ.
Even Kansas City. Mahomes has Travis Kelce and nobody else. The running game isn't much and the receiving beyond Kelce stinks like last week's chicken. KC is winning with defense, keeping the game close until late, and hoping Mahomes can pull out a win.
Sound like a familiar formula?



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It would be really nice..., posted on November 18, 2023 at 14:33:46
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...if they could beat some other team, like 35-3 or something. It's been so long since that happened, I can't even remember that far back.



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RE: We'll see how Lamar Jackson does without Mark Andrews., posted on November 18, 2023 at 14:35:46
As I typed previously:
I don't see anyone in the AFC as being unbeatable right now.

 

Kansas City isn't unbeatable but the Chiefs have to be the favorite., posted on November 18, 2023 at 14:41:01
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They've got Mahomes and they're playing defense for the first time in years.
Miami hasn't beaten a team with a winning record. Buffalo? That team is cooked. There are actually rumors that Josh Allen might be on the trading block.
Houston? CJ Stroud is still a rookie and there's half of a season for DCs to scheme up something that'll make him look ordinary.
This is what I love about the NFL, the week-to-week total unpredictability.
BTW, Jackson injured his ankle Thursday, too. Stayed in the game but don't be surprised if he starts missing significant playing time.
And the guy's overrated, you ask me.



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RE: Kansas City isn't unbeatable but the Chiefs have to be the favorite., posted on November 18, 2023 at 14:59:45
I was surfing cannels a while back ago and I think it was KDKA played a clip of Cowher being asked what he thought about the AFC and his quick answer was, "KC, Miami, and Baltimore."

Jackson can look brilliant at times. But he also looks like he is always one play away from inducing a season, if not craeer, ending injury upon himself. The guy has guts which I have to respect. I think that Baltimore can win any game they play in, but I also think they can lose any game. They kind of proved that last Sunday.

As it stood, I saw the North as being up for grabs, but now I think that two starting QBs being out is going to change the complexion of things. There are obviously teams who are already baked--stick a fork in them. There is no way that KC should not win the West. Miami looks the same way to win the East. But again: the way things look to me now, any team that gets into the playoffs could win.

As an aside, I tryed to find a recent point spread for Steelers @ Browns tomorrow, and the two most recent I could find still show Cleveland favored by 1.5 points and another showed them as a 4 point favorite. I actually think Pittsburgh is going to win tomorrow.

 

Too many injuries on defense. nt, posted on November 19, 2023 at 02:48:35
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RE: Too many injuries on defense. nt, posted on November 19, 2023 at 13:10:49
Well, you got that one right as far as win or lose.
Gotta give you credit for your Houston pick as well.
I couldn't find a immediately current betting line prior to kickoff, I found one that said Browns minus 4 points and another Browns minus 4.5 points, so if those were good lines, the Steelers did cover, if that's any consolation to Tomlin.

The under was another winner. I would have NEVER bet under 33 or 34 points.

 

Game could have gone either way., posted on November 19, 2023 at 13:30:55
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That slant to Pickens in the first quarter would have been a touchdown if it hadn't have been tipped at the line.
And the Steelers' receivers flat out stink. Pat Freiermuth can't block worth a damn, Pickens is a head case, Johnson is all or nothing, Allen Robinson is washed. Pickett is constantly forced to throw into tight windows along the sidelines.
As usual, the best game in the early slot wasn't shown here. Detroit and Chicago. Instead, we got My Santa on Fox. A 2013 movie about a woman who falls in love with a man who plays Santa Claus and doesn't realize he's actually Kris Kringle's son.
Make. Me. Barf.



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But tell us what you REALLY think!, posted on November 19, 2023 at 13:49:50
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About xmas or the Steelers' receiving corps?, posted on November 19, 2023 at 14:04:35
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I'm no fan of the holiday season, you could look up my old posts here.
FWIW, I think Kenny Pickett is a better QB than Brock Purdy by far. Purdy plays from behind, he turns into an interception machine.
The main difference is a) Purdy plays in a better scheme, and b) Purdy has an NFL-calibre receiving corps.
Imagine how much better the Steelers would be with David Njoku. And he's not even that great.



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RE: About xmas or the Steelers' receiving corps?, posted on November 19, 2023 at 14:30:31
Back in my USAir days, the NFL there was a lot like politics is here. Actually the NFL might have been worse, and for many years I was a hard core hater, and for that reason I kept expecting a comeback and win from the Steelers today. (i'dseen it happen so many times before.) I am not really a hater any more, and since I don't bet on football anymore I can pretty much fel neutral about most games--except when a team from Ohio is involved. I always want them to lose.

 

I'm OK with the Browns., posted on November 19, 2023 at 14:43:40
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It's teams from Cincinnati I don't like.
Tell you what, this doesn't make me happy in the least, but New England could end up with the first pick in next year's draft.



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RE: I'm OK with the Browns., posted on November 19, 2023 at 15:03:32
Is that due to the Burfict/Antonio Brown cheap hit, or does it go back further and deeper than that?

 

Goes way back., posted on November 19, 2023 at 15:49:30
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Back to the 1972 NLCS.



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RE: Goes way back., posted on November 19, 2023 at 17:32:58
'72? Wow. Old grudges die hard. Or more accurately: will probably never die.

 

Biggest sports heartbreak., posted on November 20, 2023 at 02:52:39
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And we all know what an asshole Pete Rose is, too.
At any rate, the Steelers' offense is dysfunctional. The play calling stinks, the receivers stink, even the fucking Bears can hang 30 points on an opponent or two, the Steelers haven't scored more than 24 points in a game all year.
Something's gotta give. IMO Tomlin is a great coach, but he needs to replace Matt Canada and get some weapons for Pickett in next year's draft.



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RE: Biggest sports heartbreak., posted on November 20, 2023 at 09:14:35
I once heard it said on a sports program that a coach in the NFL has a certain window to be productive. I think it may have been Shottenheimer that said that. I used to hate on Tomlin because he worked for the Steelers, but I actually thought he was prtty good and I still do. However, I think that maybe his window of productivity has expired. I am sure he would like to win another one so that he could shake that "he won it with Cowher's team" stuff.

 

The problem is that Tomlin is too good., posted on November 20, 2023 at 10:23:56
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He's never lost a team. The Steelers have had disappointing seasons under Tomlin but never a bad season.
And you have to have a bad season or two if you want to win it all. You have to have the players and you need draft capital for that. The Steelers are stuck in a cycle of mediocrity because they won't tank (which is to their credit), and because Tomlin gets the most out of the material he has.
In his 17 years as Steelers HC, the team has only played one game in which they had already been eliminated from contention. That was in 2012.
Yesterday's game, if the slant to Pickens in the first quarter hadn't been tipped at the line, that's a touchdown. First play against Jacksonville, Diontae Johnson split the defenders and was open for a touchdown. Pickett put the ball in Johnson's hands, and he dropped it.
Later on against Jacksonville, Pickett gets hurt and Mitch Trubisky gives the Jags 6 easy points on turnovers.
That's how close the Steelers are to being 8-2 instead of 6-4. And those plays were that close to working.
The Steelers play too well to draft guys like Ja'Marr Chase. That's the big problem right now.



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