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Seattle at Detroit...Dan Campbell you scrooooooo'ed up.

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Posted on September 17, 2023 at 13:22:30
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 Nearly two minutes left in regulation, down by three, all three time outs in hand and dude plays for a tie. Still had one time out left he can take home and hang on his xmas tree later this year for all the good it'll do him now.
I like Detroit, they're one of the teams I'd like to see win it all, but the Lions deserved to lose in OT.
The last two minutes, I was yelling at the TV "WHY DOESN'T HE STOP THE DAMNED CLOCK?"



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RE: Seattle at Detroit...Dan Campbell you scrooooooo'ed up., posted on September 17, 2023 at 13:37:35
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 What???
You were not glued to the Bottomfeeders' game this afternoon???


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Wouldn't give them the time of day., posted on September 17, 2023 at 13:41:45
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 Not until Bob Nutting sells the team.




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RE: Seattle at Detroit...Dan Campbell you scrooooooo'ed up., posted on September 17, 2023 at 16:37:48
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 I remember a thread in which the subject of Stephen King came up, and you were (at least) somewhat of a fan.

The title of this thread made me think of a line I found memorable from 'The Stand.'



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It was supposed to..., posted on September 17, 2023 at 16:40:10
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 ..."Bobby Terry, you SCROOOO'ED up!"
He wasn't supposed to blow the old guy's head off with the rifle but did, which pissed off Randall Flagg no end.



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RE: It was supposed to..., posted on September 17, 2023 at 16:44:51
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 "There are [or were?] worse than [something I cannot remember] there are [or were?] teeth."

And then didn't the Walking Dude/Flagg shape shift?

It's going on nearly 40 years, maybe I've got that part screwed up.


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The beginning of the end for Randall..., posted on September 17, 2023 at 17:29:38
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 ...shit starts going seriously wrong just about the time he deals with Bobby Terry.
Ah, I love the first half of that book, when King kills off most of the word's population. I think my favorite scene is at the end of Book 1, when Fran and Harold are playing Beatles records on an old portable battery-powered record player.
Second half of the book, not that great.
Best thing King ever wrote? Toss up between 'Salem's Lot and The Shining. And FWIW, I think Kubrick's version of the latter sucks, totally and completely. It's a snoozer and the leads are hopelessly miscast. The later 5-part miniseries that aired on ABC was much better. Actually sent chills up and down my spine. And I don't even belief in the supernatural.



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I bought The Shining in paperback, posted on September 17, 2023 at 18:35:24
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 in '78 the winter before I joined the Air Force in the spring.
There are parts that stick with me
(the passage about the protagonist's alcoholic father in which he and his drinking buddy referred to martinis as Martians, "We have met the Martians and they are friendly," or something to that effect; and the description of the incident that caused them to cease drinking for a while),
but honest6ly, I wasn't blown away.
However, I gave it to my mom, who was far more cerebral than I am, and she literally did not put it down. I am sure I got my OCD from her. For some books, after she started them, she would not stop until she finished, and that meant staying up all night and sleeping late into the next day. 'The Shining' fell into that category.

I agree that Kubrick butchered it and Nicholson was nothing like the character that King created. As a matter of fact, the entire movie was nothing like the book that King wrote. Shelley Duvall was worse than terrible.

I also agree that the miniseries was pretty good.
I remember we were sitting around work bullshitting one night and the topic came up, and a good work friend of mine said something to the effect of whoever was playing the alcoholic father/writer "had some big shoes to fill" (meaning Nicholson's). That cracked me up.

Anyway, I didn't read 'The Stand' until '85 or '86. I was working for a company in Saudi Arabia at the time, and I would go through reading binges. Like most of King's stuff wound up working out for me, I enjoyed it not for what it was about, but for how he wrote about it. His descriptions blew me away. The Walking Dude/Flagg in his Levis and worn boots and ruddy cheeks . . . Nadine Cross . . . the scene in the jail shortly after the apocalypse occurred . . . the shoot 'em up scene at the convenience store shortly before the apocalypse. . . .

It was The Stand that actually turned me into a fan and on my next vacation I bought a bunch of his paperbacks at an airport to take back with me (which, among others, included Salem's Lot).

Sometime in the late '90s I found a paperback copy of 'Hearts In Atlantis' lying around at work, and I picked it up and read it and I cannot remember what it was really about, but what I do remember are the characters and scenes that he created that blew me away and kept me reading to the bitter end.

Oh well . . . ramble on. . . .






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What always really stuck with me from "The Shining" was this..., posted on September 18, 2023 at 03:20:37
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 "Medoc, are you here? / I've been sleepwalking again my dear/ the plants are moving under the rug/ it's the inhuman monsters that I fear." Which didn't make it to Kubrik's movie, like most of the other really chilling stuff.
Nicholson played Jack Torrance like a slack-jawed moron. Shelley DuVall's Wendy was a panicky weakling, nothing like Wendy in the book.
Kubrik alternated between Bad Stanley and Good Stanley. Good movie followed by a bad one. Not at the beginning of his career but definitely towards the end, and sometimes in the same move (the first of half of Full Metal Jacket is Good Stanley, the second have, well...I could tell it was filmed in England). IMO, The Shining is Bad Stanley.
And there's another of his movies that everybody loves but I can't sit through, and it's 2001: A Space Odyssey. The pace is beyond glacial and I defy anybody to tell me what the hell the movie is about. I walked out of the movie theater halfway through it, watched it years later with friends, watched it again with my wife (who loves it), and none of them can tell me what the hell the movie is about either.
But they love the special effects!
By the way, I never thought anybody would pick up on my Stand reference at the top of the thread. Big time kudos!



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Glacial pace, posted on September 18, 2023 at 05:19:35
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 Try watching Bela Tarr movies, especially his The Man from London or Satantango.

For a warmup watch Tarkovsky's Solaris.


 

But the refs have declared open season on Lions' defensive linemen, posted on September 18, 2023 at 05:26:52
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 They refuse to call holding penalties. And coach MCDC has a policy of not complaining about refs' unfairness because it instills a victim mentality in the locker room. IMHO MCDC'S policy is good, but Jeez the refs are biased or blind.

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Sometimes, it's appropriate., posted on September 18, 2023 at 05:39:51
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 Many of the best episodes of Mad Men move at a languid pace.
But Kubrik's version of The Shining is ridiculous. The book was redone as a freaking 5-part miniseries---5 parts!!!---and still moved quicker. Even though I had read the book several times by then and knew what was coming, it kept me on the edge of my seat.
Don't even get me started on 2001. Yeah, the special effects are great, but IMO a shitty movie with great special effects is still a shitty movie. Look at the Star Wars franchise, or JJ Abrams' destruction of Star Trek or 95% of the comic book movies.




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I am not arguing about the Shining and 2001, posted on September 18, 2023 at 06:15:13
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 Kubrick's best movies, in my view, are the Path of Glory, Dr. Strangelove and, of course, my favorite: Barry Lyndon. The two early ones are also not bad: Killer's Kiss and The Killing, but not at that level.


 

Agree on "Paths of Glory.", posted on September 18, 2023 at 06:23:04
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 and Strangelove. I really enjoyed The Killing but I like those types of movies.
Terry Southern wrote much of the screenplay for Dr. Strangelove and also the hilariously filthy novel Blue Movie. The main character in Blue Movie is based on Kubrik.
By the way, I read the novel Paths of Glory. One of the great anti-war novels, along with Len Deighton's Bomber, and the Gunner Asche books.
Oh, and supposedly Kirk Douglas was furious about being upstaged by Timothy Carey.



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Bad calls went both ways in that game., posted on September 18, 2023 at 06:24:40
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 The intentional grounding call on Geno Smith?
Detroit could have won in regulation but Dan Campbell didn't try and deserved to lose.



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RE: Bad calls went both ways in that game., posted on September 18, 2023 at 09:25:20
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 I had the Jets/Cowboys game on for a little bit.
It must be frustrating to be a linebacker or other defense man and get flagged every time you try to tackle the QB.


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RE: The beginning of the end for Randall..., posted on September 18, 2023 at 16:39:18
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 . . . I found it--crucifixion was what I was looking for.

"The dark man's cheeks were flushed with jolly color, and his eyes were twinkling with happy good fellowship, and a great hungry voracious grin stretched his lips over huge tombstone teeth, shark teeth, and his hands were held out in front of him, and there were shiny black crow feathers fluttering from his hair."

Wow. How good is that?

"There were worse things than crucifixion.
There were teeth."


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