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Ghost--so I see Allegheny Co is taking a step back...

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Posted on June 30, 2020 at 04:12:09
dark_dave56
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...closing the bars and killing the restaurants (not letting them sell alcohol). You've been a bunch of "bad kids"?


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They reopened too early., posted on June 30, 2020 at 04:23:28
ghost of olddude55
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Everybody did, really.
But this is what's really going to challenge the economy. There's no way you can open restaurants and bars for indoor anything. People aren't responsible enough to maintain social distancing. They confuse license with liberty and spread the disease.
Can't have sports either, at least no spectator sports.
I read somewhere that the restaurant industry is 15% of GDP. Recession/depression is here to stay.

The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

 

Meanwhile, in Europe... nt, posted on June 30, 2020 at 04:47:13
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It was inevitable., posted on June 30, 2020 at 06:01:40
ghost of olddude55
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We Americans have short attention spans. We don't think in the abstract. "Liberty" means the license to do whatever we damned well please no matter how much damage it does to the community at large.
"I sheltered in place for two months. I didn't get sick, nobody I knew got sick. So what--me worry? Bars are open again, let's party!"


The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

 

Restaurants and bars are becoming a problem, posted on June 30, 2020 at 08:11:39
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My wife and I were spending a lot on take out to help keep a few of our favorite restaurants afloat. But as soon as they were allowed to resume indoor dining, the places filled right up again and they weren't limiting themselves to the allowed 50% capacity or maintaining the 6' requirement. So we've since stopped patronizing them.

Our case curve was on a slow but steady decline for 6 weeks, but for the last week it's been flat and deaths have ticked up.

And now we're coming into the 4th of July holiday week which is big for tourism in the NH lakes region and White Mountains. This past weekend I saw plenty of campers and loaded SUVs on the road heading North with out of state plates from places as far away as Florida. There's a lot of restaurants and bars who make most of their revenue on summer tourism and the NASCAR race (which is postponed). I'm not confident they're going to follow the guidelines, as they need to make as much as possible this week.

On the other hand, I don't see a lot of risk from outdoor spectator sports if they're limited to a reduced capacity that allows for social distancing, and if everyone wears masks.

 

There you have it in the proverbial nutshell..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 11:14:42
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A populace too petulant and immature to lockdown properly AND too petulant to re-open properly.

At least in the first round.

Gotta wonder how many rounds it will take for the reality that this is SERIOUS and needs to be treated as such.

No wonder the EU is going to ban Americans, pretty much no matter what color state we're from.



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Five rounds of major spikes..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 11:31:59
Steve O
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...The first one that occurred at the beginning, the second one occurring now, the third one that occurs in early October ~ 4 wks after school starts, the fourth one that occurs during the 2020 winter holiday season ~ early December thru early January and the fifth one that occurs after announcement of an effective vaccine(s) but months before the vaccine is actually available to the public ~ March-May 2021.

 

The answer to that is..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 11:49:04
ghost of olddude55
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there is no number of spikes that'll get us to see the light. Our collective memory doesn't go back more than two weeks.

The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

 

RE: The answer to that is..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 12:08:11
rivervalley817
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what are you guys talking about?

 

RE: The answer to that is..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 12:19:54
ghost of olddude55
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Who cares? It's 5 o'clock somewhere!

The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

 

RE: The answer to that is..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 12:22:28
rivervalley817
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it's almost as if you know me!

with regards,

 

At a moment like this, I just have to wonder..., posted on June 30, 2020 at 12:30:00
ghost of olddude55
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what would Jimmy Buffett do?

The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?

 

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