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Posted on July 20, 2020 at 04:34:48
stator_99@yahoo.com
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 I am in the market for one of those CD disc that has the little cleaning brushes that cleans dust from the laser inside your player, anyone have a recommendation? Need for a Marantz SA-10 that is acting buggy

 

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Parasound, posted on July 20, 2020 at 04:56:19
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 I have one, it works well, but I bought it years ago and don't know if they still sell it. A used one on the bay may be your answer, but just make sure it's in top shape (bristle fibers still there and soft).

It may be time to open the hood anyway in the least to take a look at everything. I have cleaned lenses and insides before with compressed air cans and damp w/lens cleaner on J&J Qtips but you have to be VERY careful.



 

Those things can whack the laser!!!, posted on July 20, 2020 at 09:40:04
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 How old is your Marantz?
Seems early to be having problems, esp at $7000.
Try unplugging it for a while.

 

RE: Those things can whack the laser!!!, posted on July 20, 2020 at 10:32:57
stator_99@yahoo.com
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 It has about 200 hours play time on it

 

So it's properly burned-in! Where, posted on July 20, 2020 at 10:40:58
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 did you get it?
Shipping it off for Warranty Repair would certainly be a hassle, it's got to be Heavy.
Good Luck, please keep us posted.

 

RE: So it's properly burned-in! Where, posted on July 20, 2020 at 11:44:34
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 It is in fact very heavy, was purchased new from a authorized dealer, out of state, I am retired and I was kind of hoping it would last as long as I do lol

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on July 20, 2020 at 15:01:29
PAR
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 Hmmm. Well 200 hours is rather a short time to be able to build up dirt on the collimator lens of the optical pickup to such a degree that the player malfunctions in some way. Are you a smoking household? Coincidentally I have a transport from another manufacturer which uses the same mechanism as the SA-10 and has had a similar level of use or a little less.

I agree with the others that those cleaning discs can be dangerous. I was talking a few years ago to a top end player manufacturer who said that one of the most common returns to his service department was caused by cleaning discs knocking off that collimator lens. He suggested only a puff or two of compressed air if it was really necessary. Unfortunately the D&M mechanism in the SA-10 does not appear to allow easy access to the OPU as it all seems to be sealed in a metal housing which appears to form part of the loading mechanism. So direct cleaning of the lens gently using a cotton bud and a photographic lens cleaner is not on the cards (perhaps luckily).

What form does the "buggy" behaviour take?

"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on July 20, 2020 at 16:48:17
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 It is refusing to play cds, sometimes I have to open the drawer and reposition the disc a couple of times to get it to read, this is a fairly new problem,it is a nice sounding player

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on July 20, 2020 at 23:17:57
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 The loading tray on the relatively new D&M CD/SACD mechanism requires very accurate positioning of the disc. It has been described in some reviews as "tight". I have adopted a disc insertion procedure of placing the disc in the tray and "jiggling" it slightly forwards and backwards until I can feel that the disc is correctly located in the circular depression in the tray. I have had no loading/reading TOC problems using this method.

Your description sounds like this may be the cause of your issue and that my solution may work for you.

"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on July 21, 2020 at 04:08:12
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 Thank you for the helpful information PAR

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on July 21, 2020 at 11:31:55
LtMandella
 Air blast should be just as effective?

 

How long have you had it?, posted on July 22, 2020 at 14:24:42
oldmkvi
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 Music Direct has 60 day return policy.
Most Dealers don't, store credit is all you can expect.
If it started acting up within that time frame, I would try to get a refund or exchange, not repair.
Even if re-stocking fee applies.
Then order from MD for protection.
If not, maybe UPS or Fedex can pack it for you for warranty repair.
That would have to be set-up through the Dealer.
Save your back too!

 

RE: How long have you had it?, posted on July 22, 2020 at 17:10:40
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 It is about 3 years old, not purchased from Music Direct, I talked to my dealer and he says he has sold many of these and has never heard of a problem but it is covered by a 5 year warranty.Time to hook up my back up Sony SCD-1 and call Marantz I guess

 

RE: How long have you had it?, posted on July 27, 2020 at 13:47:47
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 Consult Marantz- keep us posted on this matter.

 

Send it in for repair. . ., posted on July 28, 2020 at 14:51:50
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 I have a Marantz sa-ki and the transport is a brand new device. If you put a "cleaning" cd in there, it may never come out. Nice machine, so I would be careful with it. Plus you have a warranty to boot. Have your dealer send it in. Good Luck!

 

Also..., posted on August 1, 2020 at 17:29:31
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 Whereas it most likely could be a mechanical problem, it may be otherwise.

Try unplugging it for a few hours then start over again.

May help, can't hurt.

Good luck!


"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination"-Michael McClure



 

+1., posted on August 1, 2020 at 18:21:09
rivervalley817
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Agreed, posted on August 11, 2020 at 04:33:42
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 There is so little clearance with that disc drawer, I doubt a cleaning disc would even get in the SA-10
Jack

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on August 12, 2020 at 08:52:12
jaydacus
 Having repaired literally thousands of optical drives I can assure that mistracking of the disc is almost NEVER caused by a dusty lens. The coils that control the focusing of the lens in the optical pickup block simply wear out causing skipping, interrupted playback,hunting, and eventually complete failure to read the disc at all.

In those rare occasions where the issue is a dirty lens, it is not the kind of dirty that a disc with a brush on it is likely to fix or even help. Years of exposure to smoke requires cleaning of the lens surface with a wet(with water) cotton swab. If surfaces inside the optical pickup are fogged from smoke, it needs to be replaced. If the optical pickup has dust inside blowing it out with compressed air might help. 50% of the time it doesn't.

In summary....you need to take the CD player apart and try cleaning the top of the laser lens with a wet(with water) cotton swab and then dry it with a few more. 90% of the time, that will make little or no difference and you will need a new laser to continue to enjoy your obsolete form of playback. A disc with a brush on it is even less likely to help.

 

Good advice, and while it is apart... , posted on August 13, 2020 at 12:31:42
Victor Khomenko
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 ...you might consider buying a new laser assembly, some are still available for reasonable prices.

We repair quite a few of our players that way. It fixes 80-90% of reading problems.


 

RE: Good advice, and while it is apart... , posted on August 13, 2020 at 19:32:19
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 Thanks for the advice but I cannot figure out how to remove the top

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on September 4, 2020 at 21:25:52
immatthewj
 As a new owner of an SA10 from MD (that is still technically within audition time), I am interested in the outcome of this.

Anything yet?

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on September 14, 2020 at 17:41:47
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 Nice score! on the SA-10 from MD.

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on September 14, 2020 at 17:42:06
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 stator- give us an update.

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on November 8, 2020 at 23:00:45
fantja
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 how do you like the SA-10?

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on November 9, 2020 at 18:49:17
immatthewj
 The more I play it the beeter I am liking it, Fantja.

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on November 10, 2020 at 00:57:59
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 Very nice! That's the Spirit!

 

RE: Good advice, and while it is apart... , posted on November 17, 2020 at 23:49:39
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 stator-
give us an update on your SA-10.

 

RE: Good advice, and while it is apart... , posted on December 3, 2020 at 08:19:51
immatthewj
 Fantja, I think Stator99 has left the building.

 

RE: Good advice, and while it is apart... , posted on December 11, 2020 at 22:54:28
fantja
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 I wonder if his SA-10 received repair service?

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on December 24, 2020 at 00:02:25
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 I have a update, I think most of my issues were the result of floor borne vibration, I had the SA-10 sitting upon a Symposium Acoustics Ultra platform which should have been more than adequate, however I added a 3 inch thick maple butcher block between the player and the Ultra platform and things seem to be going very well for me now ( keeping fingers crossed )

 

RE: CD player lens cleaner, posted on December 24, 2020 at 00:57:49
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 Excellent update!

 

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