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Posted on March 19, 2017 at 14:09:44
dtyoshih
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 I'm a little naive when it comes to digital formats so I hope you guys can help me out. I'm thinking about purchasing a Sony HAP-Z1ES audio player but have some digital format questions. I know that some artists like Neil Young has put out music in the Blu-ray audio format. Does the HAP-Z1ES support this format?

Also, what is needed to copy my CD's to the HAP-Z1ES?

Thanks.


David

 

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RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 19, 2017 at 15:32:06
pbarach
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 I'm guessing it won't handle BluRay because you'd need an HDMI input, and this Sony device doesn't have one.

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 19, 2017 at 16:56:47
Kal Rubinson
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 You need to rip your CDs to files with your computer and then you can upload them to the Sony.

As for BluRay discs, again, you would need to rip them to a file and convert those files to a format which the Sony can digest.

In all cases, you need something that will read a physical disc which, of course, the Sony cannot.

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 19, 2017 at 19:36:06
dtyoshih
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 I don't think that's necessarily true. For example, can't you play the Neil Young Blu-ray audio disk from an Oppo 105 through its analog outputs to a pre amp? That would suggest that the Oppo can convert the Blu-ray format to analog. Just wondering if the Sony HAP-Z1ES supports the Blu-ray format.

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 19, 2017 at 19:48:51
pbarach
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 The Sony does NOT support the uncompressed BluRay audio format. It stores digital audio files that are input over a LAN or USB input, converts them to analog, and outputs them through RCA or XLR connections. Uncompressed BluRay digital audio signals can only be transmitted digitally as a hi-rez signal using an HDMI cable, due to copy protection restrictions.

The Oppo players will output BluRay audio after converting it to analog. They will also transmit a down-rez digital version of the BluRay's uncompressed audio signal over coaxial and optical outputs. This Sony unit has no way to access the uncompressed, high-rez audio on a BluRay.

 

Ripping Blu-ray Audio Article Link, posted on March 20, 2017 at 06:03:56
sjg
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 Here is an article on ripping Blu-ray Audio from Computer Audiophile.

 

Thanks for the explanation :NT, posted on March 20, 2017 at 09:16:29
dtyoshih
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RE: Ripping Blu-ray Audio Article Link, posted on March 20, 2017 at 09:37:09
dtyoshih
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 Interesting article. So it seems, with the use of special software, you can rip a Blu-ray audio disk to the FLAC format which in turn can be processed by the Sony HAP-Z1ES.

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 20, 2017 at 12:59:56
Dennis1
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 You can connect a CD to the HAP as well as an external DAC with software upgrade provided by Sony - (using new DAC is improvement)
From Sony:
You can connect an external CD drive to the EXT port on the rear panel of the HDD AUDIO PLAYER and use the [Import CD] function to copy music files stored on a CD directly to the internal hard disk drive of the HDD AUDIO PLAYER. The music files copied from the CD can be played or viewed for music information on the screen in the same way as music files transferred from your computer.
Note
Be sure to use an external CD drive that is powered through the AC adaptor and connect it to a power outlet. Successful operations with power supply from the HDD AUDIO PLAYER are not guaranteed.
Compatible with USB 2.0.
You cannot simultaneously use multiple external CD drives connected with a USB hub.
During playback of a file, if you start preparing for the [Import CD] function, the playback stops

 

RE: Neil Young , posted on March 20, 2017 at 13:07:13
Dennis1
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 Neil Young has just released all his stuff on FLAC 192 - at HDTRACKS - sounds great on the HAP - he seems to have stopped on the bluray -

 

New Dac improves..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 14:04:32
oldmkvi
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 CD at 16/44, or DSD 128 Upsampling?
Which Dac?

 

RE: New Dac improves..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 14:08:34
Dennis1
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 The CD downloads to the HAP at 16 - but the HAP has a setting to upsample for output - the new DAC I use is the OPPO Sonica DAC - updated chips.

 

RE: New Dac improves..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 14:32:04
oldmkvi
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 Right, but do You listen at DSD128?
Do all the up sampling functions transfer to the Sonica?
DSEE/Auto, Remastering Engine, Precision Upsampling?
The Sonica must be very good to better the Sony at DSD128.

 

RE: New Dac improves..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 14:33:45
Dennis1
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 One added point - the HAP upsamples to DSD for its output via its internal DAC - when its outputed to an external DAC it depends on that - the OPPO does not upsample

 

RE: New Dac improves..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 15:01:41
Dennis1
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 As added - the HAP outputs what the original files are to the external DAC - no processing. I have mainly downloaded DSD and 95. FLAC - no 16 etc so can not judge. The HAP came out in 2013 - the OPPO has new Sabre Pro chip - and I notice good difference- perhaps for 16 etc not relevant.

 

RE: New Dac improves..., posted on March 22, 2017 at 05:48:53
connieflyer
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 I have the Sony Hap S1 and use it with my PSAudio dac as a source for my Feliks-Audio new Euforia headphone amp, using Sennheiser 800 phones. It is a great combiation and very easy to keep updated with main pc storage.

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 29, 2017 at 09:14:16
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Also, what is needed to copy my CD's to the HAP-Z1ES?

Most people 'rip' their CD collection to a PC/Mac and then transfer those music files over their network to the Sony. There are dozens of excellent software packages for 'ripping' CDs. You might get a more detailed response in the Computer/PC Audio section of the Asylum.


 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 29, 2017 at 10:07:16
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 Abe, is there any advantage in using FLAC with dBpoweramp over AIFF with iTunes, both 16 bit, but FLAC can be set to zero compression? Either is easy with my iMac, but I'm not sure how to move files ripped with dBpoweramp to iTunes for transfer to the Sony.

db

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 29, 2017 at 19:51:34
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FLAC is more universal than AIFF, or ALAC for that matter. But FLAC is incompatible with iTunes. You do not need iTunes in order to transfer your files to the Sony.

You could 'rip' to AIFF or ALAC in iTunes and transfer to the Sony. This will allow you to play your files in iTunes, as well as on the Sony. BUT... unless you want this 'dual' capability, I would use dBpoweramp and rip to FLAC.





 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on March 30, 2017 at 09:23:38
dbphd
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 I have ripped some FLAC files using 16 bit 0 compression with dBpoweramp, and it was easy. Do they automatically show up in the HAP contents folder? I thought I deleted the iTunes files, but there are files in the content folder, perhaps the FLAC files.

db

 

RE: Sony HAP-Z1ES and formats, posted on April 1, 2017 at 08:14:48
dbphd
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 I forgot that you can specify the type of files HAP Music Transfer sends. They are the 16 bit, 0 compression FLAC files of Waltz for Debby I ripped with dBpoweramp. Having listened to the files using the Sony balanced to the Ayre preamp, I'm satisfied it's the way to go. Thanks for the advice.

db

 

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