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Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now...

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Posted on March 16, 2017 at 08:55:51
oldmkvi
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Looking forward to follow-ups from our 2 Owners!

 

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I'm with you. , posted on March 16, 2017 at 12:38:31
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Let's hear the reviews!

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 16, 2017 at 19:25:22
milpai
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I saw an ad in Audiogon today. Someone is selling theirs for $5.3k.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 16, 2017 at 23:57:37
fantja
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Yep, (already) there is one for sale on the 'Gon. Strange?

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 17, 2017 at 00:53:06
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No surprise to me

 

Guess they didn't buy from Music Direct, 60 day return policy. nt, posted on March 17, 2017 at 08:23:47
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They are special order only. I don't know why someone, posted on March 17, 2017 at 09:06:55
oldmkvi
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would buy one sound-unheard without a safety-net return policy.
$7000 down the tubes if you're stuck with it.
I don't expect any buyers at the used price...

 

No surprise..., posted on March 17, 2017 at 16:39:18
Ivan303
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I have a friend who does the same thing with expensive cameras and lenses.

You think the bottom is coming out of the audio business? Try photography!

Still this guy seems to know how do do it as he's buying something new about every week and selling something else to pay for it. Buying mostly from B&H in New York but spending hours trying to low-ball local dealers (those still in business) as well.

Sells on Ebay for about 75% to 85% what he paid and calls it renting camera gear. His camera spend each year exceeds my audio spend but I got a storage room full of used gear.

I WIN!!!





 

Well, it doesn't look good., posted on March 17, 2017 at 21:33:28
oldmkvi
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Units already for sale used, no reviews online or here.
The magazine review cited described it as on the Cool side of Neutral, don't think that would appeal to me ( not that I can afford it anyway).
I was hoping it would be the greatest thing since the last big thing.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 18, 2017 at 06:29:24
hiredfox
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Beware of Fake News is all I will say at the moment.

 

RE: They are special order only. I don't know why someone, posted on March 18, 2017 at 12:23:53
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Call me crazy, but I ordered one last week, I was one of the 1st to purchase a Sony SCD-1 and still have it.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 18, 2017 at 14:05:50
Frank I
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I will be getting a review sample shortly.

 

Your a lucky guy!, posted on March 18, 2017 at 19:26:20
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Enjoy and post your impressions.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 18, 2017 at 22:28:58
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Whom do you write under- Frank I ?

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 19, 2017 at 01:33:15
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Reviewing under false names was stopped in the UK a long time ago . e.g FM Hughes = Martin Colloms, Adrian Hope = Barry Fox etc.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 19, 2017 at 03:12:11
fantja
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Thanks!- Disbeliever, I was referring to the Publication or Webzine.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 19, 2017 at 10:27:24
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Headphone.Guru

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 19, 2017 at 10:58:38
Frank I
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My website publishes over 125 review annually I am the editor and we have 10 contributors.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 06:32:06
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I guess I am no longer an audiophile. I have a Marantz Sa11 s1.Never bought an upgraded version and am happy with it. same goes for my speakers Infinty
RS II, power amp Acurus A 250, Yamaha px-3 TT ,Yamaha cx-2 preamp.I just enjoy what I have,

 

Oppo BDP-205, posted on March 20, 2017 at 13:34:08
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With the Oppo BDP-205 coming out next month, I wonder how much better the Marantz sound would be. And I understand that the Oppo will not have any apps, so it is a stripped down version, which is good for music only. I hope they have a tablet app to control the interface though.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 20, 2017 at 13:36:31
milpai
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Correct, you are not an audiophile anymore. You are a music lover and that is the ultimate goal in this hobby. Enjoy your music!

 

The Marantz does more, plays CDs and SACDs at DSD 4x, posted on March 23, 2017 at 09:50:04
oldmkvi
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plays data discs, and is a DAC, all at 4x DSD.
Whether it sounds good, I don't know.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 23, 2017 at 17:33:30
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Excellent- Frank I.

 

Marantz SA10, posted on March 26, 2017 at 13:03:21
romandoc
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I don't really post in forums d/t lack of time (though I do read them) but I'm making this exception due to also being very interested in the Marantz SA-10 and reading avidly everything posted about it.

Peeps do seem to be critical of it perhaps because, maybe, it's too daring of Marantz to charge such a hefty price or because it isn't multichannel or, perhaps, some feel that disc spinners are obsolete but I wanna recap a few things that some people seem to forget which, taken in their entirety, do make this $7k piece a sort of a bargain.

1) No DAC chip. This is big. Done by EMM Labs DA2, Bricasti M12, Lampizator and PS Audio, DSD is converted directly to analog via filtering in the analog domain. Supposed to be the purest way of handling DSD.
Every time I upsample to DSD256 in JRiver and decode via Sabre chip in my Simaudio Moon Neo DAC music sounds clearly better to my ears, even if I start with an MP3 file. My new preamp, with its newly added level of see through, transparency and "meat on bones" makes such a comparison easy.
And this Marantz is said to do the up sampling in hardware to DSD256 and then decode to analog without a chip, in the purest way.I think (and I might be wrong) that Bricasti and Lampi force you to upsample in software while the EMM and PS audio do the upsampling in hardware.
When peeps talk about "house sound" and how this Marantz compares to other Marantz players I don't think they realize that all the older Marantz players use DAC chips and this one doesn't, though the discrete class A analog out might be the same.

2) It's a USB DAC primarily before anything else. Best USB DACs do tend to be expensive
3) You can burn data DVD discs with .dsf files and play them back on the SA10
4) You can plug a USB memory stick in the back and play the files on it, this was made popular by the Resonessence Labs Invicta via their SD card slot

Being a stereo only player is a plus in my book.
Taking everything mentioned above into account shows that the SA10 is really the cheapest solution for what it is and what it does.
SA 10 in my opinion belongs in a more elevated company than its price would suggest and comparing it with SACD players from Sony, Oppo and Marantz itself would not put the SA10 in any difficult position.
Now I just need someone to compare the SA10 with the Bricasti M12, EMM Labs DA2, Lampizator Atlantis, PS Audio DS DAC and DS Memory Player combo and see where it stands. And with some of the better chip DACs out there, case in point being Ayre Q5. That would be interesting.

Regards,

an audiophile and music lover, not necessarily in that order



 

RE: Marantz SA10, posted on March 26, 2017 at 13:57:06
oldmkvi
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The Hi News review was very positive.
It's also a Disc player, up sampling everything to DSD256.
I have a Lampizator Euforia, entry level.
Not nearly as good as Sony HAP Z1, but the more expensive Lampi's are undoubtably better.
I wish I could afford it. Actually, I could if iIhadn't wasted money on other items...

 

RE: Marantz SA10, posted on March 26, 2017 at 22:17:58
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Thanks! for sharing-

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 28, 2017 at 13:11:27
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The SA10 showed up today. It was a show demo so it ashould not need much time for me to get time on it.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 28, 2017 at 14:01:24
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Looking forward to your review- Frank I

 

RE: The Marantz does more, plays CDs and SACDs at DSD 4x, posted on March 29, 2017 at 16:42:23
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It not a warm sounding unit but man I am amazed at what I been hearing so far with sacd and cd.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 30, 2017 at 03:35:25
Frank I
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Headphone.Guru is my website. We do 125 reviews a year.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on March 30, 2017 at 06:00:40
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I will look into it- Frank I.

let me know when your review is posted and how to find it?

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 19, 2017 at 05:44:08
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Frank I- list the cd / sacd titles that you are auditioning w/ the SA-10.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 20, 2017 at 06:19:40
fantja
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Frank I- could not find your review of the SA-10?

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 20, 2017 at 22:50:24
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Hired Fox has revealed all you need to know about the SA-10

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 21, 2017 at 23:21:10
fantja
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Thanks! for sharing-

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 26, 2017 at 17:44:07
fantja
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still looking forward to Frank I, review.

 

RE: Boy, I could use a Marantz SA-10 Fix right about now..., posted on April 28, 2017 at 14:38:42
fantja
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if/when you guys get a demo- give a shout-out to your dealer/retailer.

 

RE: Marantz SA10, posted on May 16, 2017 at 16:30:40
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Thanks! for sharing- romandoc

 

RE: Marantz SA10, posted on June 11, 2017 at 02:17:27
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Seems no else wants to post a follow up review on the SA-10, not that it matters as hiredfox one is good enough.

 

RE: Marantz SA10, posted on June 11, 2017 at 23:57:38
fantja
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hiredfox did a very fine review. One, could never be enough for me...

 

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