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Moving Vinyl Collection

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Posted on June 9, 2021 at 16:20:43
badteacher
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I've reduced the collection to 400 LP's for a move from Oregon to Prescott, AZ. I have them packed tightly in uHaul boxes. We are driving our GMC Sierra down and I am prioritizing what to take in the truck vs. having the movers haul. In the current moving industry environment, there is no guarantee of just how long my goods will be in transit. So I'm debating 2 days in the covered bed of my truck vs. 5 to 10 days in storage or on the road in a moving van. Heading to the Southwest at the end of June will be hot for a good part of the way. I've heard vinyl is stable below 140 degrees Fahrenheit and both the back of my truck and a moving van would be getting in that range during the move. Any ideas?

 

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RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 9, 2021 at 17:32:00
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I can't help you but I had not considered the heat at all. I will eventually be moving my vinyl collection from Hong Kong to Canada via shipping container - I wonder how hot it will get inside those? Maybe I'll have to ship them separately.

If your truck has an outlet in back maybe you can purchase some sort of cooling blanket (I assume such a thing exists if a heating blanket exists) and perhaps that would work. Park in the shade/ blast the A/C.

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 9, 2021 at 18:11:14
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Moving from OR to Prescott AZ? I considered the same thing but rejected
it. But I do like Prescott. Hope you are making the right move.

As re: the vinyl, try to keep it inside the truck if you can so it gets
the benefit of air conditioning and cooler temps.
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 9, 2021 at 18:15:06
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A few thoughts. I personally would not trust anything of value that can be easily damaged to movers. If you have some particularly valuable or irreplaceable records, I would carry those with you at least. Anything they put in storage could end up in a hot room somewhere. Usually this is OK but what if they just happen to put it in direct sun? You have no control.

Also, if you have slit a record sleeve and the tight plastic is still on it (I have many like this), that is a real danger in heat. The plastic sleeve can shrink and warp the record. Cut them so they are loose or replace them.

A final step to avoid warpage, make sure they are packed tightly against each other, use newspaper or something to fill spaces.

I personally consider most LPs hard to replace these days and I treat them with care. I would move them myself.

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 9, 2021 at 19:21:08
Todd Krieger
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"I've heard vinyl is stable below 140 degrees Fahrenheit"

Not the case..... I use a vinyl flattener, it may be true with some LPs, but some will go bad at much lower temperatures...... (I always start at 105 degrees when flattening, and work my way up..... I've trashed vinyl trying to flatten at 115 degrees.)

I've also had LPs ruined (badly warped) by delivery in 105 degree weather in Phoenix (I instructed the shipper to wait until October, but it was still too hot outside)...... Between May and October, I avoid ordering LPs online.

Between June and October, I would use a cooled vehicle, transporting vinyl to Arizona.

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 06:39:10
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I have no clue about shipping containers but don't they ship foods across the oceans in cooled environments? Would an environmentally controlled shipping container (or similar facility aboard ship) be available for shipping vinyl records?




 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 07:18:57
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This is why we are trying to do a door to door move if possible when we retire. I hate to imagine all of them records in the extreme heat. 400 records / small box about 25 per box = about 16 boxes. We ordered Amazon small moving boxes which could hold about 25ish per box. It was a hassle loading 15 boxes of my most collectible in the apartment while we waited for the house to be built. The rest went into climate controlled storage. Now, faced with almost 10K records, I dread the day we move again. Good luck.

 

Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 07:35:15
badteacher
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Todd, Thanks for the tip. We have shifted our strategy and will now be taking both cars down instead of shipping one. My wife is not happy about driving but I finally convinced her, though it will cost me, to take both cars down laden with our most sensitive and prized possessions. The records will go with me inside of the truck.

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 08:26:20
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I would say in the bed of the truck if you are making the journey in one day. That is a hell of a drive for one day so I assume you will spend the night at a halfway point? The problem is the temps that can build up in a covered bed. All I can add is good luck with the move.


 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 11:13:33
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My daughter and grandkids live in Prescott, maybe we can hook up during one of our trips out there.

I stored my LPs for many years in one house in those boxes, tightly packed in the attic of a garage and they were fine when I finally got them moved where I had room to get them out. Still, sitting in a moving van in the desert doesn't seem like a great idea.

Looking at the map, if you stop somewhere near Battle Mountain the first day and get going early the next, you should avoid the worst of the heat in Death Valley. Once you go back up the mountain, the temperature in Prescott shouldn't be above 85 and it cools off quickly as the sun goes down. Be sure to unload them when you get there and air out the bed if you can when you stop.

-Rod

 

RE: 12v portable air conditioners, posted on June 10, 2021 at 12:26:49
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exist and seem reasonably priced.

with a sunlight reflective covering for the load, and the portable AC in with the LPs you might be safe from extreme heat.
. I judge any sound system by how tiring it is to listen to.
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Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 14:22:24
badteacher
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Let's stay in touch through the board and let me know when you will be in the Prescott area. We are actually going to cut across NE CA and head over to Reno, then down through Nevada and overnight in Tonopah, Nevada. From there it is 7 hours or so via Las Vegas to Prescott. We are going to take two cars and the vinyl will ride inside the truck with me and the dog.

 

Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 10, 2021 at 14:24:50
badteacher
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Definitely going to take two days and we've decided to take both cars instead of shipping one. This will allow us to take more household perishables inside both cars. We will be over-nighting at 4500 foot elevation so it will cool off.

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 11, 2021 at 05:24:26
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OT: Get a couple inexpensive walkie-talkies for the road trip since you will have two vehicles. Sure, you can use a cellphone except where there's no coverage. I find the walkie-talkies to be very convenient. Just leave them turned ON and Push-to-Talk when you want to communicate with the other vehicle. Good luck with your move!


 

Rip 'em all to FLAC files, posted on June 11, 2021 at 06:55:59
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The FLAC files will incorporate all the filtering that LPs and vinyl playback inherently provide, that is, the computer files will sound just like the vinyl originals without the hassle of wrangling 12" discs.

(This is at least a backup measure worth considering.)




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That will take a life time which he doesn't have ;-), posted on June 11, 2021 at 11:05:17
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RE: That will take a life time which he doesn't have ;-), posted on June 11, 2021 at 14:16:19
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I came across someone who told me he recently tried to rip his entire CD collection to an SSD drive...... About 3000 CDs to a 2 TB drive, using FLAC files.... He didn't know if the problem was heat related from constant loading of data or an electrical glitch, but the drive croaked when he was about one-third done..........

I don't know if he recovered some of the data, but he scrapped his plan to get rid of his CD collection, which was his initial intention.

 

RE: That will take a life time which he doesn't have ;-), posted on June 11, 2021 at 16:12:08
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The CD drive croaked, or was it the SSD ? I can understand the CD drive overheating but the SSD should be fine.

My entire CD collection was ripped to SSD but it now resides on my NAS... along with backups. If you think that took a long time - it did - but digitizing vinyl takes much more work and time.

I digitized a handful of vinyl records and then got bored and burned-out with it. It was a good experience learning what it took, and I learned that it wasn't worth my time ;-)




 

RE: That will take a life time which he doesn't have ;-), posted on June 11, 2021 at 20:49:02
Todd Krieger
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It was the SSD that croaked.... He told me a data recovery company was able to get about half his files transferred to another SSD, but he is going to "slow-walk" filling up the new SSD.... (The tech told him one SSD can last 20 hours, an identical one can last 20 years.) As opposed to doing it continuously as initially intended. (He's not an audiophile, just listens to a lot of music on consumer gear.)

 

RE: Moving Vinyl Collection, posted on June 11, 2021 at 21:39:01
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That's something to check into thanks.

 

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