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47 labs Shigaraki, with cheap Sanyo transport

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Posted on March 19, 2017 at 09:52:52
Crazy Dave
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There was a poster below that described his 47 labs Shigaraki, transport as having a cheap Sanyo mechanism. This makes me very puzzled about the value of this piece, that I would not consider cheap. Is there something about the utilization of this transport that would make it perform better than the many decent CD players that are now available in thrift stores for around $10. The Marantz CD5000 that I bought a little while ago for $8 comes to mind. Does the chassis and top loading make that much of a difference? With no remote an finicky loading, the Shigaraki is not very convenient.

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Sanyo Transports, posted on March 19, 2017 at 17:20:22
Des
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Must do something right--CEC uses them in their TLO series Drives

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RE: Sanyo Transports, posted on March 19, 2017 at 19:39:10
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That's the kind of response I was looking for. I was afraid that my post would be consdiered a troll. I think it is still available new. Could the Sanyo be a good choice for a DIY transport?

Dave

 

RE: Sanyo Transports, posted on March 20, 2017 at 06:50:31
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I think it's important not to associate Sanyo the drive maker and Sanyo the stereo equipment maker. Sanyo stereos were terrible but plenty of good CD players used Sanyo drives.

My Cambride Audio CD 6 has been incredible for me for 21 years - works perfectly to this day. Never serviced (and when I bought it was a demo that was poked and prodded for a solid year before I bought it). And guess what? It uses a Sanyo SF-91 transport. Meanwhile every other CD player/DVD player has konked out before 5 years including Sony KSS213 mechanisms used in more expensive machines.

The thing is you just never know with this stuff - if you really want to use it as a transport I would try and find machines that use the Philips Pro 2 because it was the best last transport available - before that it was probably the VRDS mechanism but they are much older, harder to find and likely harder to repair. Philips Pro2 mechanisms aren't inexpensive - the least expensive one I have seen is the Consonance Opera Droplet (and then not all of the transports used that mechanism). Plus Opera pulled out of the US market.

Use this list and you can see who uses Sanyo and Sony and Philips etc. It's massive list that contains almost every CD player ever made it would seem. Maybe not up to date for newer offerings but a good start.

 

ive been having fun with one...., posted on March 20, 2017 at 08:48:04
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...helping a friend to run it in, for nearly one year now. He is in no hurry to take it back....

 

Much depends on implementation., posted on March 21, 2017 at 06:25:47
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Here are examples shots of the innards of my Lite Audio LT-1 transport:





The donor mechanism is from Samsung. It's quite well integrated and mass loaded. Power supply is nice. Also there appear to be miniature transformers used in the transmission section - perhaps in a way similar to that employed by Audio Note? I wish! Who knows, though, as Lite Audio are about as communicative as an R2 unit with a bad motivator...


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RE: Much depends on implementation., posted on March 21, 2017 at 19:11:04
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If the are adding value and getting it to a good sound, I have no argument. I do understand that your choice is limited if you are not building your own transport.

Dave

 

RE: ive been having fun with one...., posted on March 21, 2017 at 19:18:14
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Now that is very cool! I would expect the constrained layer damping to be very effective.

Dave

 

RE: Sanyo Transports, posted on March 21, 2017 at 19:24:32
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That is a very good point. Sanyo did make a very good preamp, power amp and tuner in the 80's. I have some older CD players that work when newer ones have died long ago.

Dave

 

That looks fun., posted on March 22, 2017 at 00:45:06
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Did you build that?


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