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Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act

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Posted on May 18, 2016 at 08:05:59
Isaak J. Garvey
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Aside from Stereophie it is clear to any one paying the attention the whole "review" game is a sad tragedy, as Ar Dudley outlines. I think it is fair to say it is easy to guess who "Dick" is. And confirms what we have suspected all along about that magazine. As a matter of fact, there was never really any confirmation needed.

And "Bill" represents every assclown online pro bono "reviewer" writing for a blog posing as a publication.

 

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RE: And I thought your $25 subject line was a hint to the size of the bribe!, posted on May 24, 2016 at 10:31:34
Sorry the subject line doesn't match my post inside. $25 is the cost to be an AA contributor.

The bribe was worth $6,000 when the manufacturer told me he would never ask for his review sample speakers back as long as he got a Golden Ear Award for them. That's a bribe in my book. No way would I ever put my name on an award that was bought.

Sue

 

Um, I would say this is Art Dudley's "area of expertise.", posted on May 24, 2016 at 11:23:46
Ladok
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He has been in the business since at least the 1980s as a reviewer and also as an owner of his own audio magazine. So commenting on the ins and outs of the audio reviewing business is well within his area of expertise.

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 24, 2016 at 11:39:34
A.Wayne
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You should make all Hi-Fi items reviewed free, stash and seal all quid pro quo emails, school records and fake BC..

Just saying ...

 

The next controversy will use names "Harry" and "Willy" ... otherwise will be same regurgitated tripe. nt , posted on May 24, 2016 at 11:55:40
bjh
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nt


 

RE: The next controversy will use names "Harry" and "Willy" ... otherwise will be same regurgitated tripe. nt , posted on May 24, 2016 at 12:18:04
Isaak J. Garvey
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I'd prefer Biff and Mick.

 

RE: It's not a moot point...., posted on May 24, 2016 at 12:20:07
jamesgarvin
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"...but readers are either ignorant,..."

By 'readers,' I assume you mean those of us outside the industry, not privy to the late night Audio Industry whispers which take place in various seedy and questionable watering holes that most of the conspiracy theorists imagine occur on a regular basis.

I speculate 'readers' ignorance may stem from, say, printed versions of these late night conversations between a reviewer and/or editor and a manufacturer in which the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

If so, I plead ignorance as to the players to whom we are referring. I apologize for my ignorance. It will not occur again. At least until the next story in which the names have been changed to protect the guilty. In which case, I reserve the right to be ignorant again.

 

John you should have your own forum here., posted on May 24, 2016 at 14:33:36
hawkmoon
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Nt

 

He kinda does..., posted on May 24, 2016 at 15:17:59
Ivan303
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One of the reasons for this board, if listen closely, was that Stereophile reviews were being criticized/discussed ad nauseum on many of the 'gear' focused boards.

It was decided best to contain the damage to one forum and this one would be it.


First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 25, 2016 at 00:07:41
RGA
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There is nothing that can be done. If someone thinks you're a crook and you're not a crook nothing they do or say will convince people.

If you are a crook a liar a coward and in general a total scum bag and you have snowed people - and they are hook line and sinker bought in - then nothing anyone can say will convince them otherwise. Even if it is so blatantly in opposition AND you can prove it. Nope - not going to change their mind.

Integrity is the "right" that you do in the world when no one is looking even when you could "profit" by doing wrong without being caught. And having the courage not to give a damn what other people think.

 

Ya know...., posted on May 25, 2016 at 08:57:32
....flowery prose is usually a sign of deafness.

Just a little reviewer humor :-)

 

Hey Bill..., posted on May 25, 2016 at 14:53:07
mkuller
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...why not go public with the names?

How is anyone to know which publications are credible or not?

 

RE: Hey Bill..., posted on May 25, 2016 at 18:05:42
Isaak J. Garvey
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no balls.

 

RE: It's not a moot point...., posted on May 29, 2016 at 11:33:21
>>suggesting the suspect reviewers could also be >mascaraing< as women<<

I see what you did there. ;-)

 

RE: Ya know...., posted on May 31, 2016 at 21:31:04
bwaslo
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"They simply didn't know who to believe and chose the manufacturer, who was making a rather large fuss and denying any wrongdoing."

Sue, I'm trying to imagine what possible motive a reviewer could have for making a report like this were it not true? Certainly not to get a freebie set of speakers (no mfr, same one or other, will ever make an offer to that reviewer like that again after the report becomes known). Under bribe from a different manufacturer? Hard to imagine, too complicated. Brownie Points to the reviewer? People who report bad smells seldom get Brownie Points for it.

So why did the editors choose to believe the manufacturer? Any idea?
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RE: Ya know...., posted on June 1, 2016 at 11:13:27
>>So why did the editors choose to believe the manufacturer? Any idea?<<

Turns out the manufacturer was friends with HP and had just sent him a pair of uber priced flagship speakers to play with.

No brownie points for me. Honestly, I don't think publishers even want to hear about this kind of stuff.

 

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