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Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act

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Posted on May 18, 2016 at 08:05:59
Isaak J. Garvey
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 Aside from Stereophie it is clear to any one paying the attention the whole "review" game is a sad tragedy, as Ar Dudley outlines. I think it is fair to say it is easy to guess who "Dick" is. And confirms what we have suspected all along about that magazine. As a matter of fact, there was never really any confirmation needed.

And "Bill" represents every assclown online pro bono "reviewer" writing for a blog posing as a publication.

 

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RE: And I thought your $25 subject line was a hint to the size of the bribe!, posted on May 24, 2016 at 10:31:34
4everyoung
 Sorry the subject line doesn't match my post inside. $25 is the cost to be an AA contributor.

The bribe was worth $6,000 when the manufacturer told me he would never ask for his review sample speakers back as long as he got a Golden Ear Award for them. That's a bribe in my book. No way would I ever put my name on an award that was bought.

Sue

 

Were the speakers worth it and do you still have them?, posted on May 20, 2016 at 20:08:43
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Just kidding! :-)




First they came for the dumb-asses
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a dumb-ass

 

Holy cow!, posted on May 20, 2016 at 10:48:12
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 My opinion of TAS is now vindicated.

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 19, 2016 at 17:03:31
RGA
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 One might argue that the so called "ass-clowns" at the e-zines are capable of getting a "real job" and wouldn't want to take the massive pay cut to work for the likes of Stereophile or TAS as full time reviewers.


 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 19, 2016 at 17:27:32
Isaak J. Garvey
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 A) I believe "Bill" represents the vast majority of "reviewers" who write for free for online blogs, and are in it for the discounts, not to share their "expertise".

B) Since TAS and Stereophile more than likely have a dozen full time employees between them, making a "living" as an audio reviewer is a non starter. However free lance writers certainly can make nice supplemental income. A "publication" that does not pay its writers is an amateurish waste of time that cannot enforce any standards, and will attract the dregs.

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 19, 2016 at 21:14:46
RGA
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 Well I sort of understand where you are coming from but let me say that there are a lot of capable writers and a lot of capable audiophiles. An editor for any magazine chooses the people who write for them.

And the editor of course does enforce standards via the process of editing and can simply not have the reviews printed. That is a standard.

People volunteer at soup kitchens - they're not paid so are volunteers all the dregs of the world?

You could make the case that e-zines are stepping stones to the paid gigs for some people. I really liked the writing of Kevin Fiske - so I contacted Constanine Soo (Dagogo's founder) and I forwarded Kevin on - he wrote as we all do for free - he then found a paying gig at Hi-Fi Critic and writes with Martin Colloms and Paul Messenger now. So that's pretty cool - but perhaps he doesn't get that gig unless he is first seen in print on the E-zines. But the point is if the paid guys are not dregs but the unpaid guys are dregs - then was he always a dreg or now not a dreg just because someone gives him a few bucks to write. Besides Constantine offered some of us money to write reviews and we turned him down. And he pays in other ways such as covering the hotel rooms at audio shows. Which is a payment of sorts.

I guess I am not sure what is being assumed about reviewers. Art is probably right that unpaid reviewers may be hoping for a discount - but that's kinda dumb since it's basically industry wide standard that anything we review is going to be 40% of the list price give or take. Some companies even advertise this right on their website (Zu Audio is an example).

But print reviewers get those accommodations as well. No salary and a very low salary is hardly a difference. If the E Zines paid us $50 a year we would be getting paid. But that doesn't exactly turn us from dregs to elites all of a sudden.

And perhaps when you get paid - there is an expectation to compromise. Without pay - we're not being bought.

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 20, 2016 at 07:20:04
Isaak J. Garvey
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RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 20, 2016 at 21:04:02
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 PS at the front: I loved the video.

I know too many words that offer valid arguments are staggering for some people to understand.

Perhaps I need to speak in simple terms for certain individuals on the board. When it comes to reviewing you should ignore all reviewers and only listen to me - I am running for Stereo Man of the year.

I'm the best review person. No one is better than me at review stuff - I use the best words. No one uses better words than me. I love words. I know words. I always tell the truth using the best words. And my word I have the best ears. My dad gave me a $2million dollar ear when I was 5 years old. My name is Austen - there was a TV show about me called the 6 million dollar man - they changed some things for legal reasons like the first name the spelling, but that was me. Golden robot ears. Best ears of anyone.

When I review I choose the best stuff. Stereo stuff is great - I will make stereos great again. I will review the stereo stuff and I will only choose the best stereo stuff. I know people, the best people. They will also tell you what the best stuff is. And let me tell you these people are the best people. You don't know any of them but they're the best people. And we review the best stuff and if you buy it then stereos will be great again. Let me tell you. There are big big problems in stereos today. Big problems and I'm the man to fix them. Just buy what I tell you to buy.

Make stereos great again. I'm going to build a better brick and mortar stereo store - I know brick and mortar - I build the best buildings and I will tell you that I do. I do, I do. And those stereo shop owners are paying for those stereo shop walls - believe me. I will make them pay. You need to have the best walls for a stereo. a big strong thick wall. I will keep those Bose lovers out if it's the last thing I do. No Diana Krall. I want the best walls.

And no foreign stereos will be allowed in. We have the names and they will not be allowed in to sell their foreign stuff. Except for the foreign gear I married (err bought - err well married - or bought - err married - err????)

Blah blah blah. Dreg, blah blah blah, crook, blah blah. Darn! "Stereos" has three syllables - my audience won't understand me. Darn!

The overzealous freedom of speech moderators might understand so enjoy it for the few minutes it's posted - even though I have not mentioned a single name - just like Art's article. There's no veil!

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 24, 2016 at 11:39:34
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 You should make all Hi-Fi items reviewed free, stash and seal all quid pro quo emails, school records and fake BC..

Just saying ...

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 25, 2016 at 00:07:41
RGA
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 There is nothing that can be done. If someone thinks you're a crook and you're not a crook nothing they do or say will convince people.

If you are a crook a liar a coward and in general a total scum bag and you have snowed people - and they are hook line and sinker bought in - then nothing anyone can say will convince them otherwise. Even if it is so blatantly in opposition AND you can prove it. Nope - not going to change their mind.

Integrity is the "right" that you do in the world when no one is looking even when you could "profit" by doing wrong without being caught. And having the courage not to give a damn what other people think.

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 20, 2016 at 21:11:01
slovell1
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 Anyone notice part of this thread is missing?

 

What a weird take., posted on May 19, 2016 at 08:59:27
Dave Pogue
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 Certainly not what I drew from the piece.

 

RE: What a weird take., posted on May 19, 2016 at 10:27:49
Isaak J. Garvey
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 What a weird, vague reply.

 

Now do you understand?, posted on May 22, 2016 at 14:43:12
Dave Pogue
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 I should have added "idiotic."

 

RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act , posted on May 18, 2016 at 10:27:52
fantja
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 Thanks! for sharing- Isaak.

 

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