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So...vocalists who, IMHO absolutely nail the part? Here are two: Studer's Salome and Gallardo-Domas' Angelica

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Posted on December 2, 2021 at 18:43:12
jdaniel@jps.net
 Regarding Gallardo-Domas, what a gorgeous voice, right up to the perfect, high C's. What happened to her?

As for Studer, a pity she wore out her voice but what a Salome she left behind: so demented, so beautiful and powerful but more "pliant" than the classic clarion-voiced Nilsson. Yes, Studer swoops, but just listen to her "Ah" as the head raises from the floor. Studer is absolutely possessed, IMHO. Also, Sinopoli mines progressions and colors that I've not heard elsewhere.

Both put me in the "zone" like no other I've yet heard in either part.









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RE: So...vocalists who, IMHO absolutely nail the part. . ., posted on December 3, 2021 at 15:07:41
Chris from Lafayette
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 Two Album Selections each (with appropriate quotes from Amazon posters). . .

Elina Garanca ("The difficult made to sound effortless"):


(Love her Grace Kelly hair on the Romantique album, and that severe look on the Lieder album is great too! - Elina, I've been a bad boy!)

Anna Moffo ("unbelievably beautiful and touching"):


(The Debussy album got a lot of brickbats thrown at it by critics - but it's SO sensuous!)

Urszula Koszut (Who?? - My favorite recording of Beethoven's impossibly cruel solo soprano part in his Ninth Symphony - originally recorded in quad too!):

 

I've sampled Schumann and Brahms lieder for years, no epiphanies yet. Sampson and Delilah OTOH, , posted on December 3, 2021 at 20:57:10
jdaniel@jps.net
 now we're talkin'.

Her voice is indeed quite beautiful, and once again, Saint Saens pulls a gorgeous tune out of mid air.

Thanks for the lead.








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take me to your .... lieder for years, posted on December 4, 2021 at 19:02:20
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 There was an abundance of lieder on LP back in the hunting and collecting days. Fortunately, most of it was rather inexpensive. I have a nice collection of Brahms, Schubert, Beethoven, Mozart, Schumann, Wolf, Liszt, Debussy, Faure, Ravel, Poulenc ... song/lieder.

The Elly Ameling and Jessye Norman are great recordings for Brahms inspired epiphanies





More recent recordings would be the Hyperion CDs with Graham Johnson accompanying various singers: Ian Bostridge, Christopher Maltman, Robert Holl, Simon Bode, Angelika Kirchschlager, Christine Schäfer.

Enjoy the music.

 

I don't know Brahms' lieder at all, a good thing because at least something new to explore, posted on December 5, 2021 at 07:57:38
jdaniel@jps.net
 I love Brahms' piano music, especially the popular and often autumnal Op. 118 and 119.

Any greatest hits from the lieder you'd recommend for a newbie that are similar?

Some of Brahms works for chorus and orchestra are exquisitely beautiful at times but the Motets seemed a bit cold, though I'll try them again someday.

 

a few of my favorites, posted on December 5, 2021 at 16:00:05
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 And yes, the piano parts are reminiscent of other works.

Other samples of some that I really like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUnazCYUe3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klBWR8K6aww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMVuNYlWz2k (Botschaft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwyy3P5eDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFsVKHNvcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59g4rHvXEDs
Enjoy the music.

 

Thanks all, I'll put together a playlist before my weekend trip. Nt, posted on December 6, 2021 at 07:34:01
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Here is a great place to start..., posted on December 5, 2021 at 08:42:10
SE
 Autumnal and deep Goerne, superb recording quality, Eschenbach is subtle and stretched-out in the piano parts (which are very similar to Op. 116-119 period). Not surprising, since the Op. 121 Vier Ernste Gesange are among Brahms' last catalogued works. Goerne is a pre-eminent Lieder singer (baritone).

 

Berlioz for me, posted on December 3, 2021 at 13:47:10
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 The Nuit paisible aria always renders me speechless and humbled in the presence of such rapture and beauty.

My favorite recording is LP of course with Minton, Fischer-Dieskau, Domingo and Cotrubas.



Another favorite is Renata Tebaldi singing "Ebben? Ne andro lontana"from Catalani's La Wally.



Then there's the Duo des fleurs (Flower Duet) from Delibes Lakm
Enjoy the music.

 

Beatrice and Benedict...., posted on December 3, 2021 at 20:50:17
jdaniel@jps.net
 The one Berlioz opera that really captured my attention. I picked up Colin Davis' first Lp box set sound unheard and was really taken by the music. I prefer it to the later set with Baker.

I remember one duet being particularly ravishing and I'll bet it's the one you mention. Any title with "nuit" in it must be good. : ) I don't know the recording you suggested at all. That's why I like this place. : )

 

Vocal Highlights from the Past Century of Recorded Classical Music..., posted on December 3, 2021 at 05:27:44
SE
 I'm just being light-hearted...I CAN'T -- I just CAN'T -- begin to think about all of my favorite moments of vocal music that put me "in the zone". My head will explode -- no, seriously, grey matter on the keyboard BOOM!:-)

To put it differently, give me 30 seconds of a Handel run by DiDonato and I am probably THERE. Hell, maybe I just get stimulated too easily!:-)

 

Go to know regarding Didonato. I don't know any Handel operas at all. nt, posted on December 3, 2021 at 06:44:29
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I only (but REALLY) discovered and came to love the Handel Operas..., posted on December 3, 2021 at 06:56:40
SE
 during the past year. To be honest, I still believe it is an "acquired taste" as it is the Baroquest of Baroque. That said, the operas have superb instrumental parts, and countless vocal runs that are some of the most virtuosic ever devised.

Sample before investing on your streaming service. Many of the librettos are readily available online for the most popular works.

Here is one place to start:

 

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