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Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables.

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Posted on November 16, 2016 at 22:25:22
el34eh@yahoo.com
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Hi all,

As I recently obtained an Audience Au24 SE USB cable, based solely upon the review Robert Harley did awhile back, and I'm glad I made the investment, as to my ears it's a very very very musical experience in which I now have to believe that had I stayed with the ones priced between $150 - $380, I've have never known said differences existed.

Yet, it made me curious enough to have obtained a second one the following day, which are going to be placed on my incoming Emerald Physics Power Flow USB Isolator next week, which is essentially more or less like the iFi Audio Nano and Micro iUSB 3.0 Power | UpTone Audio Regen | W4S Recovery type devices.

But as it made me reevaluate my cabling loom to offer exactly the type of sound in which this cable bought into the mix, I'm now trying my best to find anything out there on the two models as mentioned above, and while I'm aware the OHNO IC and SCs are on the cheaper end of what some might see as High-End ( I see a thread occurring with the likes of the WE 16AWG and lately Duelund 16AWG type cables, which are even cheaper........., seemingly making many music lovers listen differently these days ) so there are times where it appears one can't base their findings upon cost alone, as it seem there are those very rare cases where the cheaper cabling looms, might in fact have a better sense of synergy with certain components, whereas the more expensive ones are trying to hard to dazzle, yet have a certain coloration that makes them less accurate, or as appealing in said systems. I can't say with any certainty, yet I can say I'm open-minded enough to hear what others have to say, based upon what they've heard with either?.

Which then leads me to the more upscale and costlier Au24 SE versions of said line of cables, and while I'm aware there's a newer version called the Au24 SX, I'm sorry to say these are beyond my means ( or wants ) yet I'd appreciate it if those of you whom have owned, or own the Au24 SE ICs | Speaker Cables share your views on how you hear them sonically?. As there doesn't seem to be much here on them at all.

And lastly, while several members here appear to not be taking with Silver plated Copper........., I can say without a doubt in my mind that OCC Silver plated Copper has a warmth | beauty | refinement | textural integrity | means of distinguishing the very tonal shadings of the notes themselves, that are a first in my 37 or so odd years in our shared hobby. And while I spent most of the 80s with Naim Kit, and only knew their recommended cables, as well as the odd Chord Company makes, I can admit I came to cables late beginning in 2001, with the entire Harmonic Technologies cabling loom which consisted of the Truth-Link IC | Pro 11+ LSC | Pro 11+ AC Cord, which I enjoyed until 2009.

At which point, I went over to the following cabling looms - Acoustic Zen | Straight Wire | Crimson Audio, with a few smaller lines here and there, but ending with CRL and Supra, and loving them........., but hopefully with your assistance can see my cabling loom evolving to a point, where I wouldn't feel a desire to change one single component for years and years to come ( come on........, let's be real, how many times has any of us said thus to ourselves, only to feel an itch sometimes within a period of 30 days - 2 months later? ) I'm not looking for ones approval, merely facts based upon what real life consumers whom have purchased either with their own hard earned funds would care to share?..........., I'm all ears.

And, it would be rude if I weren't to say........., Season Greetings to you all, and let's all pray for a safer New Year, where we can all have some sense of peace and unity between all cultures.

Be well,
O_o scar

 

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RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 06:50:13
fantja
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Hello O_oscar

Audience does make very fine cables at fair prices (not over-inflated).
Plays well (no pun) w/ solid state and tubed gear. The original/e series is still excellent. As one goes up the series chain, all cabling gets better-like it should.

I am a "cable" guy 1st. Best practice is to get out to the dealers/retailers and listen, listen, listen.

Season's Greetings to you.
Happy Listening!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 07:58:42
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Hello fantja,

Thanks for taking the time to chime in, and being that " you're a cable guy " sort, I for one can truthfully understand what you're getting at. And while I'm not able to get about due to my gout condition as much as I once could, I'll take it upon myself to borrow a few of their cables through the Cable Company, but in some cases they were out of what I wanted to hear, and I didn't wish to wait around for the cables to come back in, so generally would go with my gut instincts and just purchase them outright........, so far so good.

But it's nice to hear that even their "e" series has its merits, so I can start there and more up to the SE versions at a later date.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Happy Holiday's and Happy Listening to you as well.
O_oh

 

Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 17, 2016 at 12:50:04
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Hi Oscar

Thanks for your thoughts about silver-plated vs. copper and shearing your experiences. In my system I use both; upocc silver for phono and line signals. Upocc copper for speaker wire and crossover hookup. I think you have to carefully listen to where you use copper or silver.
Sounds interesting that you use Supra 3.4S speaker cables. How would you describe them compared to the other more expensive speaker cables you have had?

Kind regards -- Jan

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 14:38:47
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My pleasure- O_oscar. Keep me posted on the models you demo in your system.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 14:42:30
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Reading over your profile- I am surprised that you are not using an all-Triode Wire Labs (TWL) set-up. I am more interested in reading about the likeness of Audience cabling vs the brands in your system.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 17, 2016 at 14:44:41
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Hi Jan,

Thank you for chiming in as well. As I tend to use OCC Silver plated Copper on my Source component ( DAC ) as well as from said DAC as an IC, I've found it better to stick with OCC Copper ( 6N purity ) as far with several power cords, and speaker cables. Which in my mind counterbalance one another's weaknesses while building upon their stronger points.

Weird thing is........, with the Supra3.4S in question, they were recommended to me by a buddy of mine from my Pink Fish Media days, whom owns some rather exotic gear and generally thinks outside the box on many components made in Poland | Switzerland | Germany and England, yet someone's taste I've grown to respect.

Their sound on either of my 3 different Integrated's, is one in which I hear as beauty........, in that none of the notes are forced upon you as being overly aggressive ( as some brands would've one think this should be heard as resolution or detail, where I beg to differ ) the music itself while presented in a rather refined | delicate | romantic manner, doesn't lack substance and offers a great deal of weight ( similar to what I've heard through Mini-Monitors like the original Quad Model 11L or Vienna Acoustics Haydn SEs that I once owned........, if you know what I'm getting at?, where each was solidly grounded as if one was listening through much much larger and expensive speakers ) as compared to say my once beloved Siltech Cable Explorer Series 90L | Acoustic Zen Satori | Crimson Audio R.M. Music Links, they merely feel as if they're truer to the source if you will.

While the top end comes across as somewhat relaxed, and not as extended as say my Cable Research Labs Bronze SC, I can still hear quite easily into any given recording, without straining to do so, as far as the midrange and lower midbass, I'd say it's very agile and responsive enough to transient detailing as not to be caught off guard, in other words........., have enough speed as not to be bothered by complex passages in any form, as a friend of mine ( Mick Wolfe ) puts it in regards to what he heard from said CRL Bronze LS Cables as " Even Handed ".

And when one thinks about it........., don't we all want components as well as cabling, that isn't sluggish when it comes to passing along the signal as unaltered as possible?, and as I've once again replaced more expensive speaker cables with cheaper ones, as it seems logical in my case, where both merely played tunes better, minus the flash, or horse and pony show which initially impresses, but over the long haul leaves a very unnatural aftertaste in ones mouth or soul as if something's missing.

To me........., it's that sense of purity | tonality | texture | timbre correctness that my mind and spirit seek above all else. Therein lies my biases........., it has to sound | feel emotionally correct enough to move me to tears ( where it applies musically speaking ) as well as have the ability to draw me into the very essence of each note and layer of the recordings themselves to be considered worthwhile in my mind........, otherwise to me, it serves its purpose not.

And trust me..........., this is the short-winded version, for those whom know me........, know that I'm very passionate as it relates to somethings in life, I'd write a book on this type of stuff had I had another lifetime to do so.

I hope this helps?, as I know they aren't going anywhere regardless of their low cost, as they merely became part of my finalizing the voicing process of my system, as done by ear........, it works wonderfully in said manner, and once ones system is voiced correctly......., it's harder to become swayed other wise.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 14:58:07
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Hello once again, fantja,

While I'm very taken with the TWL AC Cords, I've a Synergistic Research UEF Black ( 10AWG ) and WireWorld Electra 7 still sitting around to be used, as I'm leaning more and more towards one brand, and having used SR Tricon Analog cables in the past, I liked the manner in which they used silver conductors, in the past while also owning CRL Bronze ICs ( which were a hybrid build, in much the same manner as the TWL Spirit ICs ) ........, let's just say, I've decided it needed something different.

The one thing that I've taken from all of this is........., ones speakers and amplification will tell you what each one prefers as far as a particular type of conductor, yet I've found that as far as the source component as far as say in my case........, from the Mac Mini, into the DAC as in USB cables, and then that vital IC into ones integrated of preamp says it wants a slightly different flavor all together......., in my mind, I've to listen and then adjust said needs for each accordingly, and pray that I come across the correct balance which strikes me as musical enough to live with long term.

And while I might use different power cords here and there, I'd much prefer to use the same brand when it comes to ICs or Speaker Cables, and in truth I'm not sold on certain brands which I know don't suit my ears or senses more so then others.

Biased in that way, but in voicing ones system........, like food, it's always about the flavoring.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 14:59:51
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I shall......., thank you again as well.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 15:10:31
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I meant to add........, it's because I merely preferred the overall sonics of the CRL loom, as it just has a sound that involves......., to the point nothing else mattered, not until I sampled the musicality of said Audience Au24 SE USB cable that is.

And once again, it's a sound that merely feels right.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 18:17:11
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very nice- O_oscar.

it appears that you can go several different ways (SR, Wire world, or Audience).

I can vouch for the Wireworld Electra 7 PC- it is excellent.
I know that the Platinum WW series is outstanding- at a substantial cost, of course.

I, too, am currently looking into SR- it is on my must demo list whenever I can schedule a dealer/retailer visit.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 18:43:50
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Thanks again fantja,

As I've found myself very content with my system, I merely find that changing its sound with cabling has in a sense opened my life up to having different sonics without the desire to change a single component.

As my intent is to place the WW Electra 7 onto my Dac, and said SR AC Cord onto either integrated, as I tend to rotate through them seasonally, I can say that as a proponent of the SR HFTs and ECTs, it has become a mind bending experience and then some, as they work wonderful in our home, and as room treatment devices go........, they don't draw as much attention to themselves in the same manner as having pillows stuck onto the walls, ot ceiling corners like room tune types, which I can't see doing with out modern Italian decor........, not here I might add with a very serious face at that.

As far as the WW Platinum anything goes.........., not on my watch, I'd much rather focus on said Audience " SEs " and enjoy what's left of my time on the planet enjoying music, as continuing chasing a slight 10 - 25% improvement, if that.

Thanks again for just being you, and always seeming eager to assist those in need.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 19:26:17
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As I have noted in previous posts I use Beldin 8402 microphone cable as interconnects and Western Electric 16 gauge as speaker cable. through the years I have used many high priced cables but none have given me the absolute realism that these cables give me. I have also tried the Dueland 16 gauge copy of the Western Electric and while good I like the Western Electric better. For more reading on this stuff do a search for Jeffs place blog. This is where I first heard about this cable. All the cabling cost me a total of $400. Been using this stuff for 8 months now and have had no thoughts at all about other cables
Alan

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 19:34:01
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By the way I have several USB cables and they all sound different
Alan

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 19:55:29
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Good evening Alan,

As I've followed your post on said cables, as well as Jeff's blog on said same matters. I too have come to realize one very key factor........, which I believe most of the Europeans and Japanese seemed to have known for sometimes now, audiophile cables as we know them, sometimes aren't as musically correct as some companies would've us believe, as I noted several years ago on Pink Fish Media and Echo Loft Forums ( England and Malaysia respectively ) most users would go on and on about how they actually preferred cabling looms which were actually used by recording studios, as they felt them to have less coloration compared to said audiophile brands.

To my ears, as a reality check........., it seems my less costlier cabling are in fact the ones which have bought me closer to being inside the music venues, and less of an outsider peeking in, if you will......., so there's something other cultures are tuned into, in which Americans have seemingly forgotten for the sake of musicality itself.........., it's called a sense of realism, with a better handling of dynamic flow as well as a more organic presentation.

But I'd be merely reading into things wrong?, which wouldn't be a first.

Happy Holidays to you and yours as well.
O_o scar

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 20:03:35
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I've been through a total of 11 of them, from a few made in the U.K. | Italy | Poland, ranging from $50 - $900, and each carried a different signature, yet in the end my investment in said Audience Au24 SE was much like the story of Goldilocks........., its overall sound is just right.

Yet in said reality, I know we each have different priorities in what we listen for or to, and as always we've to each rethink what fits our own personal taste as well as systems, as I'm not much for voicing my system to suits my neighbors ear, when mind are the ones I've to please at the end of the day.

That's why I've always referred to my system as " Mi-Fi " because in life, it's very personal is it not?.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 17, 2016 at 21:40:07
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I hear that -O_oscar.
it really is amazing how cabling contributes to one's system.
I have had the pleasure of listening to several systems that expressed 100% of the music. This is my end-goal. Life is too short otherwise.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 01:41:20
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I'm in 198.9% agreement. This is the final frontier for me as well......., after adding a dedicated server like an Aurender N100H in the new year, I should say is the end of my quest.

To which I believe shall see me doing more listening, and less writing, as I'm nearing a point in life where there aren't many more things in audio I need to learn. Aging and wisdom are meant to go hand in hand, at least in a ideal world that is.

Life's to short indeed........., once someone has figured it all out, it's time for that never ending dirt nap.........., I'd live it, and enjoy each and every moment surrounding by real people and loved ones......, and ones system applies in said last phrase.


Enjoy it fantja.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 01:54:28
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In the meantime........, lets live. Shall we?.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 02:15:03
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Let's live, indeed. Keep me posted on those cables/power cords.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 02:25:23
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While I see everything is in progress with you. I'd like to say from one whom severed in the USMC, to a Squid.

Here's hoping you find your way home soon enough........, and I'm determined to ride out the Audience loom, as once again even listening to their OHNO IC yesterday and even now, offers a sound which I find much to my liking.

Thanks again for your service, by the way.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 02:40:50
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Hope you are late-night listening, O_oscar.

Thank You for your Service! Being a Veteran is my greatest pleasure.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 04:49:07
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Why yes I'm a nightowl of sort, as the wife and I tend to get up around 5:17AM or so, as a means of seeing our daughter off to work, and being much like it was while stationed in Japan, once I'm up, I'm up.

So getting on with the listening session, during those quieter moments right before the dawn, when it seems AC power is at its steadiest is indeed a blessing, as we reside in a four unit apartment with wonderful neighbors I should add......., but shared main lines aren't always a good thing, yet the Oyadide R1 and R0 does make it more bearable.

And your welcome, as serving was a very intricate part of my inner grown, and appreciation for knowing the differences between real ones ( as in people ) and fake ones whom merely were seeking someone to carry them.

In life........, it's family first, then country followed by respect for human kind ( or something to this effect ) once again, it has been an honor getting to know you over the course of the last few years, and once again......., I appreciate your honesty, being the cable first guy that you are.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 07:05:04
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Thank You- for the kind words. It is my pleasure to help/assist where I have a little expertise. No doubt that the best time to listen (as 75% of the world sleeps) is between 12m to 0600.

No matter the locale, there is much musical info to be experienced during the hours. Been doing this measure for many, many years.
Luckily, I do not live on the direct grid (major U.S. cities) so my power is pretty clean.

Happy Friday!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 07:33:44
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Happy Friday!, back at ya. Until next time.......

 

WE16g vs. Duelund 16g, posted on November 18, 2016 at 07:47:48
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Alan,

I know you have been pleased with the sound of the Western Electric 16g wires, but I don't recall reading until now that you preferred them to the Duelund version. Can you expand a little on what you like better about the WE?

 

RE: WE16g vs. Duelund 16g, posted on November 18, 2016 at 11:27:43
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The Western Electric cable has an ability to sound like live music. The Dueland less so. The Deuland is a little more laid back and less resolving. It is a good cable but won't thrill you like the Western Electric
Alan

 

RE: WE16g vs. Duelund 16g, posted on November 18, 2016 at 11:47:35
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Interesting. I will give both of them---the WE and the Duelund---another try over the next month or two. I will be using them with Furutech spades as well as the bare wire ends I used before.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 18, 2016 at 20:51:42
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Nice pics! O_oscar.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 19, 2016 at 03:10:16
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Thanks as always, fantja.

I save them as visual reminders of items of interest........

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 19, 2016 at 05:38:21
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Which Audience cables are you receiving from the Cable Company?

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 19, 2016 at 08:33:34
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I've an Au24 SE IC and a pair of the cheaper OHNO III LS Cables coming in Monday. I see this as means of getting a feel for their sonics, as compared to their older Conductor and Maestro IC I had back in 2005, and couldn't wait to get rid off.

But I'm told they've come a long ways since then, so in that regards it's only fair to base things on how they perform in my system, lest I'd never know what's what.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 19, 2016 at 12:17:44
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I've an Au24 SE IC and a pair of the cheaper OHNO III LS Cables coming in Monday. I see this as means of getting a feel for their sonics, as compared to their older Conductor and Maestro IC I had back in 2005, and couldn't wait to get rid off.

But I'm told they've come a long ways since then, so in that regards it's only fair to base things on how they perform in my system, lest I'd never know what's what.

 

RE: WE16g vs. Duelund 16g, posted on November 19, 2016 at 14:29:18
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I am going to try something else with the Dueland. I biamp my Maggies. I originally tried the Duelands on the amp driving the tweeters. this was the setup I like the Western Electric better. I am now going to try the Duelands on the amp driving the bass and midrange panel. Initial response is very good. I have found out the Dueland cables need 100 hours for breakin. I am only about 20. I will wait and then report. I have also ordered a pair of dueland interconnects fro Parts Connexion. I will report on those in the future
Alan

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on November 19, 2016 at 14:42:26
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Very nice! Happy Listening!

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 20, 2016 at 13:24:15
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Thanks Oscar

After your description I consider trying a pair of the Supra 3.4S speaker cables.
Currently I am using the "Oyaide Across 3000" speaker cables. I find this cable very neutral, very clear and dynamic in a sort of relaxed way. I want al details present.
BTW how do you connect the screen of the 3.4S ??

Rgds Jan

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 20, 2016 at 16:45:23
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Your welcome Jan,

As many of my friends whom use them, have cut the screen wires, I've cut them at the speakers end, yet positioned the ones on the Amos binding post directly underneath their BFA Plugs, and secured them with their barrels.

It's a different sound, yet one I've grown very accustomed to, so much they've been in my system since their arrival, and aren't going anywhere until the Audience LS Cables have found their way here......., other then that, they're definitely here to stay.

Stay the course,
O_oh

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 22, 2016 at 05:37:58
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Did your cable(s) arrive?

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 22, 2016 at 06:18:19
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Hello fantja,

As it stands, I've two Audience Au24 SE USB cables, a pair of their OHNO ICs in house, and I absolutely love them enough to know that I'll be placing an order for their OHNO III Speaker Cables and Au24 SE IC after the new year.

As it has proven to offer a sound in which fits my system, as well as my ears........., the only cable that I'm looking to add is another affordable one called the Tellirium Q Ultra Blue.

At some point I'll be adding one of the Audience AC Cords, and I'm done.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 23, 2016 at 19:34:16
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Right On! O_oscar

I certainly want to demo those Tell-Q cables/cords myself!

Keep me posted and Happy Thanksgiving!

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 23, 2016 at 20:00:34
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Back @ ya fantja.

This began as a means of me narrowing down my options, but quickly became something which was answered by merely paying attention to something I already had in house, naming that Audience Au24 SE USB cable. As their little entry level IC has proven itself in my system to be a prefect match synergistically speaking of course, and serves my DAC into an integrated duties just fine.

Speaker Cabling wise........., well it has come down to their matching OHNO III and said Tellurium Q Ultra Blue, as the two I'll be pursuing as each has to match up well with the intended speakers that I plan on living with long term, so the legwork has paid off, big time. For me it's merely a matter of prioritizing what's really needed, as opposed to just wanting......., as my intention is to make certain the wife, children and grandchildren have a nice Christmas, and do what I've to for myself after the New Year, as I view it, if I don't buy these items for myself, no one else will.

No doubt if God allows me more time on the planet, you'll definitely be kept in the loop as things process........., Happy Thanksgiving to you once again as well.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 25, 2016 at 05:48:39
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I look forward in reading your reviews of those cables/cords.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 25, 2016 at 09:52:17
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Hi fantja,

You can certainly look for me to be finished with all of this around the first week of February in the new year. Once again based upon what I'm hearing at this very second........., I'm sold on the Audience sound, and look at the Tellrium Q Ultra Blue SCs, as merely away of changing the flavor of the system in those rare moments where it's needed?.

Other then that........, I'm the happiest I've ever been as a music lover, granted it has taken me 15 system changes and a lot of sleepless nights, and rethinking my mistakes along the ways to have reached this point in life, where I've finally figured it all out, and in no way shall be swayed from the path before me.

Once again......., here's wishing you and your loved ones a joyous Christmas, with a much better and safer New Year in the works for us all.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 25, 2016 at 10:18:56
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Hi fantja,

You can certainly look for me to be finished with all of this around the first week of February in the new year. Once again based upon what I'm hearing at this very second........., I'm sold on the Audience sound, and look at the Tellrium Q Ultra Blue SCs, as merely away of changing the flavor of the system in those rare moments where it's needed?.

Other then that........, I'm the happiest I've ever been as a music lover, granted it has taken me 15 system changes and a lot of sleepless nights, and rethinking my mistakes along the ways to have reached this point in life, where I've finally figured it all out, and in no way shall be swayed from the path before me.

Once again......., here's wishing you and your loved ones a joyous Christmas, with a much better and safer New Year in the works for us all.

 

RE: Supra 3.4S ?, posted on November 26, 2016 at 06:37:01
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Many Thanks! o_0scar.

you do not want to rush perfection- I know. Take your time and when the finishing touches are completed, keep me posted on this journey.
It is going to be a Merry Christmas and happier New Year!

Happy Listening!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 1, 2016 at 19:34:31
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Well I had an opportunity to listen to both the Audience Au24 SE IC and OHNO III SCs earlier on this morning, and came away very very impressed with the ICs, enough so that I'll be following up as mentioned earlier in this post, and get a pair in February.

Yet it proved that as quiet as their SCs were, it seemed to my ears that something wasn't quite right, and while I'm very aware that all cables are system ( user is a better way of viewing it ) dependent at best........., it merely struggled to offer me the same sense of responsiveness as I get from the two brands which were actually used earlier on in the voicing process of my system which took place 9 months ago. I'd have to then guess in hindsight the system as a whole had been voiced where it'll take some form of pure silver or silver plated copper ( with an emphasis on OCC 5-7N grade ) which offers a sense of sparkle, attack, resolution and transparency, nearest the source components, but obviously wants a richer, warmer, creamier presentation when it comes to the power cords and speaker cables used on either of my three different integrated amps........., this is in fact a requirement of said Integrated's as well as the speaker in question......., as it seems that via properly interfacing them with this or that variant of conductor does after all effect the way in which its all bought together as far as synergy is involved, and I'm not one whom is willing to change what I now hear as a very balanced presentation merely for the sake of slight improvements at the overall expense of purity, or beauty as each note does in fact speak to my very core in a manner in which I darn not alter.

With this being said........, it appears my quest for cabling had indeed reached its zenith, as the Au24 SE IC and Tellurium Q Ultra Blue SCs will be joining my family and I as an extended family member for years and years to come.........., whomever said one can't be content with their systems once voiced properly......., must have been an Audiophile!, where I pride myself on being a Music Lover, which obviously reads differently in various parts of the world.

Here's hoping that each and everyone of you find your path of enlightenment soon enough, as exchanging this box for that box at some point has to be maddening, no!.

Anyways......., I'd like to extend to those of you once again whom were willing to add your insight on said post, with a hearty thank you, and once again wish all of you Seasons Greetings and hope for a much better and safer New Year for us all......., at some point before I die, I'd love to see some form of world peace......., but being an olde school ex-hippy type, I'd then reckon I'm more of an idealist then anything.

O_oh, the times have changing indeed. I for one miss the 70s | 80s, at least everyone had a sense of pride and unity amongst themselves......., and jobs ( can't forget that one ) okay I'm signing off now, be thee well to you all.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 05:38:35
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Oscar, as always, a good read following you on your audio journey! Enjoy your music as well as the looms that get you to your quest. Looking forward to your input when said cables arrive and you spend time listening. Be well! Tim

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 06:00:00
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What's up Tim?, it's nice to see you here.

And thanks for the kind words as usual, and being that I've always seen you as a friend and someone whom ears I've grown to know and trust, your words carry weight. And as I'm listening to these upmarket Audience Au24 SE ICs and USB cables at this very second......, I can say this is " My Sound " and I'll pursuing it with a vengeance.

As always........, behind the wife and I, you're amongst the first two to twelve people I've keep in the loop. Once again Seasons Greetings to you | Lisa and the kids.

O_oh

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 12:02:25
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I just had to drop in and read your cable thread big O! By the way, I also enjoyed the various gear pics along with your posts, many tasty things there!

Just a quickie, put the Croft Micro 25 pre and Series 7 amplifiers back in, using my Uniti as source to the Larsens, all wired up with the DH Labs cables, am really enjoying this a lot, have to say, the DH speaker/interconnects are really working nicely here, for very little money, good stuff!

Okay Oscar, to you and Michelle, a great holiday to you as well, family too!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 12:33:34
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Hey Brah!.

Thanks for stopping by, as you well know......., the doors are always opened to kindred spirits, and just plain olde down to earth folks like yourself.

And Tim, you know what's weird about all of this?, it seems that many of the cats I know on sites like PFM | Echoloft have always talked about their preferences for cables using in recording studios, and cheaper ones compared to what many so-called Audiophiles view as the absolute, well I finally figured out why........, it's because of their lack of coloration or put differently their purity of note where they merely play tunes unfiltered as possible, much like the Supra's ( that I still thank you for turning me onto ) as with your current DH Labs which works collectively with your Croft Kit.

Like testing out the women we've met along the way, while some were decent enough........, our wives proved to be a better fit, hence like our systems, they were worth the investment long term. As for the photos........, I tend to love nice furniture and gear, as like you......., diversity has always been a part of my upbringing.

As always......., be well little Brotha......., and thanks once again for stopping by.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 21:28:27
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DH Labs and Triode Wire Labs, are really making their respective way into the marketplace. I want to demo each of these brands. Dealers/retailers in the USA?

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 2, 2016 at 21:33:03
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Excellent choices- O_oscar.

Besides the Tell-Q cabling, I am also looking into Synergistic Research.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 3, 2016 at 05:14:09
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Fantja, I will,have to look and see who is a DH Labs dealer. I use to buy all of mine from ACI when they were still in business, tells you how long ago it has been, so I have used these cables off and on for some time. The BL-1's and T-14 interconnects/speaker cables are just a real solid value in my book, well constructed and durable. (Looks like a call to DH Labs themselves gets you a dealer listing)

Oscar, I still enjoy my Supras too in the right situations, while maybe a touch soft in the upper registers so it seems, still a very good cable, and again, excellent value there.

Be well all!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 3, 2016 at 06:28:29
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Much Thanks! tfrazeur

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 3, 2016 at 06:51:54
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Thanks fantja,

Weird thing is........, a friend of mine bought up the Synergistic range to me a few days ago. Having owned their remarkable Tricon Analog Phono-Cable ( AG ) years ago tied to a WTL Classic MK V and loving it. And am currently using their HFTs | ECTs | UEF Black Fuses and 10 AWG AC Cords, I can say there is definitely something about this companies wares I love.

So much so, that I'll be adding their UEF Black AC Cord ( 12 AWG ) onto the PS Audio NuWave DSD DAC as an alternative to the WireWorld Eclipse 7 AC that does a wonderful job on its on, but then curiosity has gotten the best of me, so let's see where this leads.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 4, 2016 at 21:54:49
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Beautiful pic!
I am curious how this PC stacks up against the WW Electra 7 ?

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 04:48:18
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Thanks again......., while I can say that I adore the sense of quietness and sound staging capabilities as well as warmth of said WW Electra 7 AC, the Synergistic Research UEF Black 10 Gauge offers these and more, as well as a slightly increase in dynamic flow if you will.

It has replaced the Triode Wire Labs 10+ on either of my Integrated's, and being this in itself is a very capable power cord, that's saying a lot.

Yet there have been times when I view the various ranges of SR, as somewhat confusing because I know that the magic in most cabling brands begin at a certain price point........., having taken notice of how said prices generally have gone since about 2003, it seems that to obtain a decent power cord......, they start at around $350, for ICs that begins at $390, and lastly speaker cables begin around the $600|3m mark, with the ones at $900 as the next level, I myself while having spend as much as $1.200 ( retail $1.600 ) on a pair of speaker cables in the past, have found it somewhat fascinating that these were replaced with cables which retailer for $400, yet in a logical sense I never second guess what I hear as a better sonic match as it relates to cables, tubes, isolation devices and so on........, as I've come to rely upon items which form a collective sense of synergistic balance based upon how each plays in tandem, as opposed to continuing to sacrifice the musical integrity of said system by merely settling on said items which aren't well balanced as it relates again to timbral purity.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 06:27:52
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Much Thanks! for the intel on SR as compared to WW Electra 7.
I want the best cables & cords for timbral purity.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 07:18:42
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As always........, you're more then welcome. And I can only speak on said matters as I hear them. And while I'm some of us hear differently, I believe there some items which can be in fact universally voiced to fit into certain systems more so then others........, it said systems themselves are neutral to begin with?, as one has to adjust this flavor according to what's needed?.

Subjective or not?, after awhile it's merely a matter of paying attention to the little things that enhances ones system's tonality and opens up the possibility of enjoying any genre played equally as well as the one before........

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 13:27:08
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To me, it is objective, as we all strive for the Absolute Sound!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 13:36:45
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In that sense, I'd wholeheartedly agree, yet as I'm aware as others will see this post in years to come, some will view it differently. Hence my trying to please the naysayers, as I just grow tired of trying to defend my every word to those whom I merely don't feel the desire to speak with on said matters.......

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 16:00:37
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Sadly, cabling, is the forgotten and over-looked component.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 5, 2016 at 17:45:39
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You're so right on the mark with said statement, as many to this date refuse to view them as such, and in fact it's the key component in bringing them all together..........

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 12, 2016 at 14:49:46
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TY- O_oscar.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on December 12, 2016 at 15:36:34
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YW ( as always )_ fantja.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on January 2, 2017 at 15:06:37
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Happy New Year!

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on January 2, 2017 at 15:33:47
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Happier New Year to you and your loved ones as well.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on February 15, 2017 at 13:26:30
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Hi All,

I merely wanted to post my follow up on this topic, as I've finalized the voicing process of my entire system to the point where I'd care less about any other cables that might be read about or heard in the near future.

What took place to make me stop and appreciate what I already have was simply adding two different gauges of the current releases Synergistic Research UEF Red ( 12AWG ) and UEF Black ( 10AWG ) AC Cords into the system, where the Red is placed onto the DAC, and said Black version placed upon either of my three Integrated's as a means of seeing what rage results would be?.

Well all I can say is........., to my ears it was as if the dynamic flow of the notes themself had been glossed over by both the AC Cords these replaced, as I was now greeted by an nicer sense of spaciousness, attack, liveliness, decaying properties which were simply out of this world. Having followed several threads over on AudioGon about the SR UEF Black Fuses as well as the Reds, which in turn lead to several more on their power cords at different price points or levels, so here I'm will a UEF Black which was sitting underneath our wall unit for all of five months and not having been installed into the system until the Red came for the DAC yesterday........, yes I tend to wait awhile before placing items throughout the system, as I felt I was happy with what I had before......., yet am the type whom still believes in buying a few items here and there for future use.

In this regard........, it has only proven that I should've done this much much earlier on, as I've to say that as simple as my primary ICs and SCs have become cost wise........, just installing both power cords bought about a greater sense of volume, detailing once again which seems to bring about a more collective whole as it relates to things simply sounding more there-there, if any such thing exist in the real world as we know it?.

And while I know plenty of us tend to view cabling as a means of merely connecting ones components, I'm starting to seriously see them as components in themselves which when chosen with a little bit of common sense as it relates to synergy, as well as tonality, do in fact bring about remarkable changes to the point where either one loves how they've voiced their systems by ear, or not?. Truth be told.........., I've myself reached a point where I feel very little improvements can be made to " Mi-Fi " ( as it has after all been tuned to please my senses above anyone else's, correct? ) that it's time to get away from reading about newer types of designs with this or that type of advanced metallurgy found buried deep underground until now, or worst yet something borrowed from reverse engineering from parts found within a few miles from Area 51.

No......., as with my post this morning on the ELAC BS 403s, I've grown a lot in the last 3-8 years and now feel as if I've a better sense of feel and sound enough to know that........., the quest is over cable wise.

Now back to focusing my attention of the vital items which govern my system........, tubes and music. As always I'd like to thank those of you whom were willing to share your ideals and opinions on said matters, and can only pray that at some point you find yourself happy enough with your system!, where the constant pursuit of small variations in sonics become a thing of the past and you're able to enjoy your system as is?, as wasting funds can at times become a means of showing others our own uncertainties in how we judge sound, as opposed to what plays music......

Be well,
O_o scar

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on February 15, 2017 at 15:27:17
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Thanks! for sharing- Oscar.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on February 15, 2017 at 15:53:44
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Thanks for always being supportive fantja.

That in itself is a very very special quality which some seemed to have forgotten.

 

RE: Audience OHNO Au24 SE ICs and Speaker Cables., posted on February 18, 2017 at 04:46:33
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My pleasure- Sir.

Happy Listening!

 

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