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RE: Disaster in Dealing with Drews Audio in Germany

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DrAJReynolds

In Reply to: RE: Disaster in Dealing with Drews Audio in Germany posted by John Elison on September 04, 2011 at 23:10:28

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply. SGR Audio are the friends referred to in my post and the ones who have lost in excess of $10k to Mr Drews so unfortunately no help on that front.

The price you will typically find on the internet for the Odyssey RCM reflects the over inflated dealer markup. In Germany, the Odyssey RCM sells for 2500 Euros including 19% VAT for the two brush/fluid pump model. It would have been similarly priced here in Australia and New Zealand if only the manufacturer had actually supplied the units for which he received a considerable amount of money up-front.

As for whether it cleans better than other lower priced machines, well I believe that like all point-nozzle type machines (Loriscraft and Keith Monks) it does a superior job of removing the cleaning fluid and solubilised/dissolved grease/dirt/fungus/etc therein than ANY vacuum slot-type machine regardless of cost (e.g. Clearaudio double matrix to cite one expensive example).

Regards,
Aaron

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RE: Disaster in Dealing with Drews Audio in Germany - Laudanum 05:26:34 09/05/11 (1)
Im not doubting your story in any way and I am sorry that both you and your Dealer friends at SGR are out the money and have been the victims of fraud and theft. But I am curious as to why SGR is still listing the Drews machine for sale on their website. I can imagine the possibility that they may be hoping that keeping the machine listed shows a good faith gesture to Drews audio thus giving him every opportunity to do the right thing and no excuses not to. But I think that's a bit of a stretch. Again, Im very sorry to hear about your nightmare of an experience with Drews.

Edits: 09/05/11
- RE: But I am curious as to why SGR is still listing the Drews machine for sale on their website. - Cpk 06:59:44 09/06/11 (0)
  exactly
RE: Fly to Germany - KLechterO78s 05:26:27 09/05/11 (8)
It'd be cheaper and much faster to fly to Germany and pay the guy a "personal visit" to discuss your grievances. An email from another country 10,000 or more miles away is ignorable...while a knock on the door from a flesh-and-blood human is something that cannot be ignored.
- A knock on the door from a lawyer might be even more effective - Paully 07:35:57 09/05/11 (7)
  Maybe not cost effective but sometimes its worth the money just to force compliance. Of course a knock on the door from a large man with a Jersey accent can have an even bigger effect but its tough getting those guys to fly to Germany.
  - RE: A knock on the door from a lawyer might be even more effective - zako 08:08:46 09/05/11 (0)
    A KNOCK ON THE DOOR IS NOW WARRENTED,,,I LOVE THE SOUND OF CRACKING BONES..THAT WOULD CLEAN HIS DECK
  - RE: A knock on the door from a lawyer might be even more effective - Fred J 08:04:57 09/05/11 (5)
    Sounds like an ass kicking is definitely in order here, doubtless cheaper than a Lawyer
    - Hey Ferd, how 'bout sending your cousins Guido and Carmine? /nt\ - Opus 104 10:17:44 09/05/11 (3)
      Opus 104
      - RE: Hey Ferd, how 'bout sending your cousins Guido and Carmine? /nt\ - Fred J 10:33:35 09/05/11 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Hey Ferd, how 'bout sending your cousins Guido and Carmine? /nt\ posted by Opus 104 on September 05, 2011 at 10:17:44
        
        Great minds think along the same lines ;-)
        
        All kidding aside when someone deliberately reams me like that I
        look upon it as they're thinking they can punk me out, it seems obvious this
        individual hasn't fallen on hard times, but simply assumes the buyer in Australia
        has no recourse, a definitive " Fuck you very much " deal.
        Under these circumstances I'd get in touch with the German riders that spent last summer with our club, and have them give the bastard an attention getting tune up.
        
        RE: Mail him a dead fish nt - KLechterO78s 11:13:16 09/05/11 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Hey Ferd, how 'bout sending your cousins Guido and Carmine? /nt\ posted by Fred J on September 05, 2011 at 10:33:35
        
        RE: Mail him a dead fish nt - DrAJReynolds 16:48:01 09/05/11 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Mail him a dead fish nt posted by KLechterO78s on September 05, 2011 at 11:13:16
        
        Thanks for the vote of support and the suggestions gentlemen. I will not let the matter rest and if it comes to it then a visit to Germany will be in order.
        
        I do feel that legal intervention will have the desired effect at the end of the day. I guess I am more disappointed that Mr Drews did not make use of the ample opportunities afforded to him to do the right thing.
        
        Regards,
        Aaron
    - RE: A knock on the door from a lawyer might be even more effective - KLechterO78s 08:21:33 09/05/11 (0)
      LoL everyone. I wasn't advocating violence...then again, I wasn't discouraging it either. A good old fashioned scare works no matter what language the parties speak. An email from halfway around the world is negligible...yet a surprise knock on the door from the person you screwed is bound to send a shiver up the guys spine. Since they're Aussies..they should take that "Donk" guy from Crocodile Dundee with them.

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