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In Reply to: RE: As much as I like the Planar 6... posted by ghost of olddude55 on December 11, 2022 at 11:58:01
It is very difficult to build exceptional turntable on budget but it's rather easy to satisfy mid-fi old geezers who are past expiration date on their hearing ability.
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Here's one for the bargain basement price of ...-wait for it...- $360,000. I guess it's beautiful— if you like erector sets. OMA K3 turntable & Schröder tonearm.
I did not realise it was 360K. It did not sound like much but their stuff sure looked the part.
Looks like a more affordable version might be coming down the line.
What's its 0 to 60 and standing 1/4 specs? For $360K you can probably get a 3 bedroom home in Cedar Rapids and a Lancia Delta Evo to park in its garage.
Ciao,
"One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz." - Lou Reed
Cpwill
And I have little against Rega which cornered the market adding $3 worth of " upgrades " to every model up the line and milking retirees stuck in the hobby.
I think I could happily live ever after with LP12 since it never fails to provide "the drama".
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Wojciech- somehow I could tell you liked "drama."
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I had Rega P9 at the time when first LP12 found it's way to my home. Plain vanilla Sondek. It was so much more enjoyable than dry P9 that it wasn't even funny.
I'm amused by threats about exorbitantly expensive audio equipment because most Americans feel entitled to be able to afford everything and a lot of them were for a long time until they don't anymore and it irritates the heck of them. I don't have that problem.
I bought back equipment I owned 35 years ago and well I feel like I wasted 35 years of my life chasing audio. The fact that I'm loosing my hearing kind of feels like blessing since I can forget all that nonsense and simply enjoy music for what it is. All the best
kuma and viridian talked me out of it.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
I've had an LP12/Ittok since 1986. Bought new for about $1500. Only upgrade I've done is adding the Origin Live DC motor. It's been front and center in my system since day one. I rarely need to adjust the suspension--maybe 4 times in 36 years. I ignore all the upgrades, because I probably can't afford them, and they would drive me nuts.People may advise against LP12s, but I can't think of a better value.
Religion? I haven't attended any meetings, and I prefer my own joy to missionary work.
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For pure musical enjoyment, you can't beat an LP12.
My TT journey went from a NAD, to a Rega P2, then P3, to a Music Hall MMF7, to a VPI Scout, to several Oracle Delphi, and has come to a complete halt with a 1986 Linn LP12 with upgrades. Music just sounds right through it.
mg16
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Amen Brother!
Just for the looks of that thing. My former friend couldn't stand that I have it and he doesn't (its the primal Polish trait ) so he bought one too with upgraded granite base and SME 245 arm, no less. Wooly, boring sound of that thing kind of cured me from desire to set up mine and buy an arm for it so it still sits on the display, few years now. No regrets though. As an object it's really worth the price.
A friend has a V with a Graham Phantom III arm. Altho it has a few tweaks, I still prefer my Sondek with a Linn EKOS SE. My friend of course, prefer the sound of his deck. This stuff is pretty subjective, innit?
P.S. I agree with your comment regarding the P9. The current P6 is much livelier and plays tunes better, IMHO. Almost like Rega coming close to a vintage Linn minus the colours. And current Linn is... oy not sure what they doing now is for me.
At the Munich Hifi this year, Linn had a '73 Serial # 0006 Sondek on display.
...I got from you and viridian, I'm still thinking a Linn might be in my future.
I look at used LP12s all the time.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
ghost of old dude 55 wrote: "Never cared about resale value either. I'm a lousy salesman, I always figure, whatever I sell I'm gonna lose money on anyway, so I end up giving away a lot of gear."
I give away gear also. Quite coincidentally at the moment I am waiting for my grand nephew to arrive in about an hour to pick up a Parasound JC 3, Jr. phonostage I am giving to him. I thought about selling it, but that didn't fit with my philosophy of keeping my life simple. I also like to encourage young audiophiles.
I dream of an America where a chicken can cross the road without having it's motives questioned.
...keep crossing the road, she's gonna end up on social media.
She'll go viral and I don't mean bird flu.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Figger, myzzle. Doesn't hurt to keep an eye on the market. One never knows, do one.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
And better to stay away from a cult objects and their followers. I'd rather not deal with Linn people, Naim people and Rega people. It's a secular religion which I'm not able to follow. Most retarded are Naim people since they believe every single word " the book" tells them and they are mostly concerned with resel value of their crap since they constantly re-sell. I dealt with a few wankers from that group and I said no more.
Never cared about resale value either. I'm a lousy salesman, I always figure, whatever I sell I'm gonna lose money on anyway, so I end up giving away a lot of gear.
The only items currently in my system that were purchased new are the turntable and speakers.
And, yeah, the turntable is a Rega. Planar 6. It's a good turntable, just set it and forget it, and if you want to make even simpler, just put a Rega cart in it, no alignment needed. With the external speed box, no need to remove the platter and move the belt in order to change speeds, which is a PITA. No MDF, no flimsy plastic parts. QC is good, which is surprising since the thing was made in England.
It doesn't seem to add or subtract anything from the sound, which is what I'm looking for.
As far as being a geezer stuck in my hobby, well, you guilty as charged.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Nothing I did in my audio journey made much sense. At least these days I try to take it easy and don't run and try to buy on the cheap the flavor of the month knowing that next year everybody will be chasing next greatest thing. All the best
And plinth a piece of particle board countertop? What else is there regarding " advanced engineering? Yet, you split the hair in four like buyers of $200 Endrju Dzones Elak boxes.
Aluminum subplatter, external speed control, foam core plinth, and the glass platter is weighted along its outer rim.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
Sorry, I lost the track of Rega nomenclature and thought their RP series was more " advanced" then their Planar series.
Rega's gone from "Planar," to "P," back to "Planar," then "RP," then back to "Planar" again.
Should just pick one and stick with it.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
The RP 6 has the external speed control and the glass platter weighted on the rim.
I said that I installed a Groovetracer subplatter in the RP6. Never said the RP6 was advanced engineering. Read more carefully! I was speaking of the very expensive tables. Do you post provocative comments to annoy or just for the hell of it?
A pale copy of Romy the Cat.
Later Gator,
Dave
I never managed to assemble a decent sounding system but I don't feel too bad knowing that none of you did much better in this regard:)
THats the only " experience " I gained from years in the hobby. ALL the talk and no substance, meh haha
Couldn't hear you over the sound of that cruise missile passing over.
As long as I can hear my wife calling me for dinner, I'm all good to go.
The blissful counterstroke-a considerable new message.
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Very tactful! Thanks for your input!
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